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  • 1.  NO attachments, please .....

    Posted 09-25-2001 16:27
    Dear Colleagues,

    I request that you do NOT send attachments to the list.
    Many of us work from multiple locations, and attachments
    wreak havoc with our access to email.

    This list just now transmitted an attachment of 2.2 MB.
    I am working at my home office in the rural countryside
    of northern Europe. At my school, a 2.2 MB attachment
    would download in less time than it takes me to type this
    note. At home, it took me nearly 45 minutes to receive
    this document.

    This has three unhappy consequences.

    First, an attachment is a cork in the flow of email. I can't
    just by-pass it. I can get NO OTHER MAIL until the
    document is completely downloaded.

    Second, a lengthy download costs money. At high
    European local access rates, this can add up.

    The Mg-Ed-Dv list is a worldwide discussion list. It is
    not simply North American.

    I pay, personally, for email access at home. This 2.2 MB
    45-minute document cost me nearly $10 US. That's ten
    bucks friends. I don't know about you, but I don't enjoy
    paying ten dollars to receive an advertisement, not even
    an advertisement for a worthy academic meeting.

    Third, I NEVER open unexpected attachments. The
    way to prevent virus infection is to take extreme care
    with attachments. It is vital to know who it comes from,
    to know that their system is safe and virus free, and to
    know what the document contains and why. There is
    never any assurance on these factors when receiving
    an attachment via a discussion list.

    There is no way to know that this document genuinely
    comes from Miguel Olivas. It probably does, but I don't
    personally know this. If this had been sent to me directly
    and personally, I would write first to check before
    opening. I suppose I can trust an attachment emanating
    from Katz ... but I recall that the one virus I got
    in the past eight years came in a CFP from a top level
    research university. Finally, since I don't know with
    certainty what this contains or why it was sent to me,
    I would not open it before receiving personal confirmation
    on my query.

    For three big reasons, it is inappropriate to post a
    document like this to a list, at least as long as some of
    us live outside the US, work at home offices, pay high rates
    for connection time, and worry about viruses in the
    age of Red Code and NIMBA.

    It is better policy to mount a document of this size on
    the Web or even post a note to the list. Make the ascii
    plain text note as long as it needs to be. Allow people
    who want to learn more to visit a URL.

    Best regards,

    --

    Ken Friedman, Ph.D.
    Associate Professor of Leadership and Strategic Design
    Department of Technology and Knowledge Management
    Norwegian School of Management

    Visiting Professor
    Advanced Research Institute
    School of Art and Design
    Staffordshire University


  • 2.  NO attachments, please .....

    Posted 09-25-2001 16:51
    From: DimakatsoG@aol.com [mailto:DimakatsoG@aol.com]

    I agree entirely with Prof. Friedman's sentiments, as one who often works in
    South Africa and the West Indies, and at home on a less fancy
    machine--besides teaching at the Kennedy School.

    Geri Augusto
    DimakatsoG@aol.com


  • 3.  NO attachments, please .....

    Posted 09-25-2001 17:01
    Hi - I also concur. Accessing an attachment, at least on the convoluted
    system at our college, takes at least three times as long as accessing the
    material if it is in plain language within the body of an e-mail
    message. From home, attachments are simply inaccessible. And from home I
    cannot print more than about seven screens worth of material without the
    system truncating what was said.

    But I feel the same way about telling people to access an URL to find out
    whether one wants to get more information; It is equally a multi-step
    process, is time-consuming, and not available from home. Unless I've
    already intensely interested, I won't bother.

    If you want people to read your material, put it in plain language and
    keep it simple and short; and include the essence of your message. Prive
    access elsewhere for those who want to learn more. Edit your material to
    be concise, accurate, and as complete as brevity will allow.

    Tim Edlund, Morgan State University


  • 4.  NO attachments, please .....

    Posted 09-25-2001 17:41
    Might I suggest people with attachments use hyperlinks in their emails and
    put the attachments on web sites.

    In this way, people who want it can have it with just 2 more clicks and
    people who have access issues can determine if this subject is worth the
    price they will have to pay to have it.

    Additionally, those of us who are not allowed to download attachments as
    part of our virus security systems can go get the document of the website if
    we want it.

    Conna Condon
    Baker, UIU, Nova

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Charles Wankel" <cxx@bellatlantic.net>
    To: <MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
    Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 1:50 PM
    Subject: NO attachments, please .....


    > From: DimakatsoG@aol.com [mailto:DimakatsoG@aol.com]
    >
    > I agree entirely with Prof. Friedman's sentiments, as one who often works
    in
    > South Africa and the West Indies, and at home on a less fancy
    > machine--besides teaching at the Kennedy School.
    >
    > Geri Augusto
    > DimakatsoG@aol.com
    >
    >


  • 5.  NO attachments, please .....

    Posted 09-25-2001 18:00
    Sorry, but this is another "no-no" Hyperlinks on our system stand out in
    blue, but one absolutely cannot "just click" on them. Our local business
    journal just changed its e-mail format to this, with the result that I now
    find it utterly useless. If you use hyperlinks, I will find your
    tranmissions utterly useless, too; and will delete them forthwith!

    Consider that many universities and many private citizens do not have all
    the whistles and bells - and send your net messages accordingly!

    Tim Edlund, Morgan Stgate University

    On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Conna Condon wrote:

    > Might I suggest people with attachments use hyperlinks in their emails and
    > put the attachments on web sites.
    >
    > In this way, people who want it can have it with just 2 more clicks and
    > people who have access issues can determine if this subject is worth the
    > price they will have to pay to have it.
    >
    > Additionally, those of us who are not allowed to download attachments as
    > part of our virus security systems can go get the document of the website if
    > we want it.
    >
    > Conna Condon
    > Baker, UIU, Nova
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Charles Wankel" <cxx@bellatlantic.net>
    > To: <MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
    > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 1:50 PM
    > Subject: NO attachments, please .....
    >
    >
    > > From: DimakatsoG@aol.com [mailto:DimakatsoG@aol.com]
    > >
    > > I agree entirely with Prof. Friedman's sentiments, as one who often works
    > in
    > > South Africa and the West Indies, and at home on a less fancy
    > > machine--besides teaching at the Kennedy School.
    > >
    > > Geri Augusto
    > > DimakatsoG@aol.com
    > >
    > >
    >


  • 6.  NO attachments, please .....

    Posted 09-25-2001 19:04
    >
    >
    >Sorry, but this is another "no-no" Hyperlinks on our system stand out in
    >blue, but one absolutely cannot "just click" on them. Our local business
    >journal just changed its e-mail format to this, with the result that I now
    >find it utterly useless.
    >
    You can highlight a hyperlink, copy it, and paste it into your browser
    quite easily. That's just a bit more than "useless."

    --


    Terry Calhoun, SCUP Communications, tcalhoun@scup.org
    Society for College and University Planning (SCUP)
    SCUP is online at http://www.scup.org
    734.998.7027, fax 734.998.6532
    311 Maynard Street, Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2211 (USA)


  • 7.  NO attachments, please .....

    Posted 09-25-2001 23:04
    Tim Edlund wrote:

    > Sorry, but this is another "no-no" Hyperlinks on our system stand out in
    > blue, but one absolutely cannot "just click" on them. Our local business
    > journal just changed its e-mail format to this, with the result that I now
    > find it utterly useless. If you use hyperlinks, I will find your
    > tranmissions utterly useless, too; and will delete them forthwith!
    >
    > Consider that many universities and many private citizens do not have all
    > the whistles and bells - and send your net messages accordingly!

    I'm not sure which whistles & bells you have at your place, Tim, but I do just
    fine with Netscape 4.7.2 Not the newest wrinkle in the shirt. Didn't survive
    6.0; haven't tried 6.1 yet.

    Suggest you read the emails, with or without links, copy an interesting link
    address, then branch over to a web browser and paste it in. Not as easy as
    clicking on them, but still do-able without typing.

    Jay

    And as for attachements, I agree. Don't. Only off the discussion group. Good
    courtesy to those whom you wish to pay attention to you.
    --
    Jay Warner
    Principal Scientist
    Warner Consulting, Inc.
    4444 North Green Bay Road
    Racine, WI 53404-1216
    USA

    Ph: (262) 634-9100
    FAX: (262) 681-1133
    email: quality@a2q.com
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    The A2Q Method (tm) -- What do you want to improve today?


  • 8.  NO attachments, please .....

    Posted 09-26-2001 06:58
    From: T K Kng [mailto:tkkng@pc.jaring.my]

    101% agreed. Not only I lost so much time and money to download and when it
    is through I just delete it because I do not know authenticity of the
    sender.

    Regards,

    Kng
    Malaysia