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  • 1.  Definitions of the title "professor"

    Posted 11-24-2001 03:39
    Dear Edryce,

    You write, "I understand that there are different models of
    'professorship.' However, it would be very helpful if
    the titles were not all the same. 'Professor' should include
    teaching as a primary responsibility, or we should find a new name.
    In a global community, that name should have a common meaning to all
    the community members."

    Teaching is important. But it is not the primary definition in any
    extant widely-used model.

    If we're to develop a common, global definition for a term, it might
    make sense to use the term as it is most widely used in the global
    community.

    The title professor has been in use for nearly nine centuries. For
    most of those nine centuries, and in most places, the designation has
    involved models other than the model you suggest. The European models
    are used in Europe, Australia-New Zealand, and large parts of Asia.
    While some colleges and universities in America emphasize teaching as
    a primary responsibility, most research universities and many
    colleges stress a dual emphasis on research and teaching, and use the
    professor title to distinguish the senior researchers.

    If we're to have a standard, global definition, which model are we to
    use for the definition? Are we to use the oldest model? Are we to
    use the most wide-spread model? Shall we use the model used in the
    greatest number of colleges and universities? Or should globalize the
    model used in the greatest number of nations?

    It seems to me that there are already titles for those whose primary
    responsibility is teaching. These titles include instructor and
    lecturer. In the United States, those whose job descriptions combine
    teaching and research hold different kinds of professor titles --
    assistant, associate, full. In other places, the title professor is
    used sparingly. Different designations such as reader or lecturer or
    senior lecturer lead up to the professor's title, with very few
    designated as professors.

    Each system has its virtues and drawbacks

    Stating what professors ought properly to do -- including teach -- is
    one issue. Arguing that the designation ought properly to be applied
    only to those who teach as a primary responsibility is another.

    I've often argued for greater emphasis on teaching, or -- better put
    -- creating a learning context for students. It also seems to me that
    this emphasis leads to deeper thinking and better research. I'm less
    confident in arguing that the title professor ought to be defined
    the same way everywhere.

    Best regards,

    Ken

    --

    Ken Friedman, Ph.D.
    Associate Professor of Leadership and Strategic Design
    Department of Technology and Knowledge Management
    Norwegian School of Management

    Visiting Professor
    Advanced Research Institute
    School of Art and Design
    Staffordshire University


  • 2.  Definitions of the title "professor"

    Posted 11-24-2001 19:33
    Ken,

    Uncle!

    Thanks for the background, which I did not know in
    that detail. I stand corrected by history.

    Regards,
    Edryce

    --- Ken Friedman <ken.friedman@bi.no> wrote:
    > Dear Edryce,
    >
    > You write, "I understand that there are different
    > models of
    > 'professorship.' However, it would be very helpful
    > if
    > the titles were not all the same. 'Professor'
    > should include
    > teaching as a primary responsibility, or we should
    > find a new name.
    > In a global community, that name should have a
    > common meaning to all
    > the community members."
    >
    > Teaching is important. But it is not the primary
    > definition in any
    > extant widely-used model.
    >
    > If we're to develop a common, global definition for
    > a term, it might
    > make sense to use the term as it is most widely used
    > in the global
    > community.
    >
    > The title professor has been in use for nearly nine
    > centuries. For
    > most of those nine centuries, and in most places,
    > the designation has
    > involved models other than the model you suggest.
    > The European models
    > are used in Europe, Australia-New Zealand, and large
    > parts of Asia.
    > While some colleges and universities in America
    > emphasize teaching as
    > a primary responsibility, most research universities
    > and many
    > colleges stress a dual emphasis on research and
    > teaching, and use the
    > professor title to distinguish the senior
    > researchers.
    >
    > If we're to have a standard, global definition,
    > which model are we to
    > use for the definition? Are we to use the oldest
    > model? Are we to
    > use the most wide-spread model? Shall we use the
    > model used in the
    > greatest number of colleges and universities? Or
    > should globalize the
    > model used in the greatest number of nations?
    >
    > It seems to me that there are already titles for
    > those whose primary
    > responsibility is teaching. These titles include
    > instructor and
    > lecturer. In the United States, those whose job
    > descriptions combine
    > teaching and research hold different kinds of
    > professor titles --
    > assistant, associate, full. In other places, the
    > title professor is
    > used sparingly. Different designations such as
    > reader or lecturer or
    > senior lecturer lead up to the professor's title,
    > with very few
    > designated as professors.
    >
    > Each system has its virtues and drawbacks
    >
    > Stating what professors ought properly to do --
    > including teach -- is
    > one issue. Arguing that the designation ought
    > properly to be applied
    > only to those who teach as a primary responsibility
    > is another.
    >
    > I've often argued for greater emphasis on teaching,
    > or -- better put
    > -- creating a learning context for students. It also
    > seems to me that
    > this emphasis leads to deeper thinking and better
    > research. I'm less
    > confident in arguing that the title professor ought
    > to be defined
    > the same way everywhere.
    >
    > Best regards,
    >
    > Ken
    >
    > --
    >
    > Ken Friedman, Ph.D.
    > Associate Professor of Leadership and Strategic
    > Design
    > Department of Technology and Knowledge Management
    > Norwegian School of Management
    >
    > Visiting Professor
    > Advanced Research Institute
    > School of Art and Design
    > Staffordshire University


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  • 3.  Definitions of the title "professor"

    Posted 11-25-2001 17:12
    Ken's outline is interesting, but incorporates a highly research centric
    concept of the university.

    Senior researchers are professors - teachers are instructors and lecturers

    Tteaching is only what you do until you get recognised in your research.

    I don't think that structure serves students, or the community very well.

    Gray Southon


    At 16:33 24/11/01 -0800, you wrote:
    >Ken,
    >
    >Uncle!
    >
    >Thanks for the background, which I did not know in
    >that detail. I stand corrected by history.
    >
    >Regards,
    >Edryce
    >
    >--- Ken Friedman <ken.friedman@bi.no> wrote:
    >> Dear Edryce,
    >>
    >> You write, "I understand that there are different
    >> models of
    >> 'professorship.' However, it would be very helpful
    >> if
    >> the titles were not all the same. 'Professor'
    >> should include
    >> teaching as a primary responsibility, or we should
    >> find a new name.
    >> In a global community, that name should have a
    >> common meaning to all
    >> the community members."
    >>
    >> Teaching is important. But it is not the primary
    >> definition in any
    >> extant widely-used model.
    >>
    >> If we're to develop a common, global definition for
    >> a term, it might
    >> make sense to use the term as it is most widely used
    >> in the global
    >> community.
    >>
    >> The title professor has been in use for nearly nine
    >> centuries. For
    >> most of those nine centuries, and in most places,
    >> the designation has
    >> involved models other than the model you suggest.
    >> The European models
    >> are used in Europe, Australia-New Zealand, and large
    >> parts of Asia.
    >> While some colleges and universities in America
    >> emphasize teaching as
    >> a primary responsibility, most research universities
    >> and many
    >> colleges stress a dual emphasis on research and
    >> teaching, and use the
    >> professor title to distinguish the senior
    >> researchers.
    >>
    >> If we're to have a standard, global definition,
    >> which model are we to
    >> use for the definition? Are we to use the oldest
    >> model? Are we to
    >> use the most wide-spread model? Shall we use the
    >> model used in the
    >> greatest number of colleges and universities? Or
    >> should globalize the
    >> model used in the greatest number of nations?
    >>
    >> It seems to me that there are already titles for
    >> those whose primary
    >> responsibility is teaching. These titles include
    >> instructor and
    >> lecturer. In the United States, those whose job
    >> descriptions combine
    >> teaching and research hold different kinds of
    >> professor titles --
    >> assistant, associate, full. In other places, the
    >> title professor is
    >> used sparingly. Different designations such as
    >> reader or lecturer or
    >> senior lecturer lead up to the professor's title,
    >> with very few
    >> designated as professors.
    >>
    >> Each system has its virtues and drawbacks
    >>
    >> Stating what professors ought properly to do --
    >> including teach -- is
    >> one issue. Arguing that the designation ought
    >> properly to be applied
    >> only to those who teach as a primary responsibility
    >> is another.
    >>
    >> I've often argued for greater emphasis on teaching,
    >> or -- better put
    >> -- creating a learning context for students. It also
    >> seems to me that
    >> this emphasis leads to deeper thinking and better
    >> research. I'm less
    >> confident in arguing that the title professor ought
    >> to be defined
    >> the same way everywhere.
    >>
    >> Best regards,
    >>
    >> Ken
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >> Ken Friedman, Ph.D.
    >> Associate Professor of Leadership and Strategic
    >> Design
    >> Department of Technology and Knowledge Management
    >> Norwegian School of Management
    >>
    >> Visiting Professor
    >> Advanced Research Institute
    >> School of Art and Design
    >> Staffordshire University
    >
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  • 4.  Definitions of the title "professor"

    Posted 11-26-2001 01:38
    Friends,

    Robert DeFillippi, Edryce Reynolds, and Gray Southon
    all raise valuable points.

    My post was not a normative statement of what the title
    "professor" should mean. It was a descriptive statement
    of what the title means, and an argument for care in
    definitions.

    Robert states, importantly, that service and professional
    leadership are important criteria for promotion. This is
    so in most places, as I believe it should be.

    It is worth noting that in some European universities,
    evaluation is made by an external committee. When this is
    so, it is difficult to incorporate criteria such as teaching or
    service, and depending on the construction of the
    committee, it is even difficult to gain a full assessment of
    broader professional contributions. In those cases, it
    can often happen that evaluation is based primarily on
    review of research.

    Some British universities (and perhaps others) address the
    problem by using BOTH an internal committee (as in the
    United States) AND an external committee. In one evaluation
    I recently saw, the charge to the committee specifically
    requests an evaluation five criteria: 1) research and
    publishing, 2) teaching, 3) leadership and service within
    the university, 4) leadership and service within the field,
    and 5) professional leadership and service.

    The university states that promotion is based on outstanding
    performance in 3 of the 5 criteria and good performance in
    the rest.

    It's clear in this case that the university must seek a
    balanced and well informed committee.

    Edryce: no need to say "uncle." I absolutely agree -- think
    I said it twice -- that teaching is vital to our mission. I
    simply pointed out that if you ask for a global definition,
    others might argue a different case than we do.

    Gray, I'd suggest reading my notes again. I did not
    prescribe. I described.

    It is possible to describe a culture that practices a
    custom (blood sacrifices, "funny car" races, debates in
    parliament, racing against a herd of bulls) without
    arguing for the custom itself.

    I did not state that "Teaching is only what you do
    until you get recognized in your research."

    I stated that there are different models of the professorate.

    No university model designates as professor those for
    whom teaching is the PRIMARY activity. All models of
    professor of which I am aware require a balanced range
    of characteristics and attributes, with a high level of
    performance on several.

    Because the university is by definition a research centered
    institution, and since professors lead departments, this generally
    means that research is an important criterion.

    This involves many nuances. There are three kinds of research,
    basic, applied, and clinical, and the kind of research for
    which the professor's title may be awarded depends in great
    part on the nature of the field or discipline and the specific
    school or university involved.

    Those who are not research active and those who cannot
    conduct original research of some kind are probably
    unequipped to properly evaluate research findings and
    they are not qualified to supervise research students.

    One of the central roles of the full professors in every
    university know to me involves developing curriculum,
    deciding on curriculum issues, and choosing among
    curriculum alternatives.

    One must be able to interpret research findings to
    develop curriculum and select appropriately among
    alternative choices -- as contrasted with teaching courses
    within a developed curriculum. This implies that one must
    be a researcher to fulfill the full range of professorial
    responsibilities.

    By definition a professor must be able to supervise research
    students and vote on advancement to candidacy or degree
    awards for graduate students.

    Again, this implies that a professor must be able to conduct
    research and to teach research skills.

    There are colleges that are restricted to undergraduate students,
    and colleges of applied studies in technical or practical
    fields. In these colleges, it is possible to become a full
    professor based on teaching or teaching and service alone.

    These are not universities. These schools typically award
    undergraduate degrees, vocational diplomas, or degrees in
    professional practice but no research degrees.

    It seemed to me that this thread involved the definition of
    the title "professor" as it is used in universities.

    Teaching and service are important. In the university,
    teaching and service form a constellation with research.

    Research is the factor that distinguishes universities
    from other kinds of schools. Since a professor who cannot
    work in the research context cannot fulfill the requirements
    of the position, appointing a professor without research skills
    is also a disservice to students and to the larger community.

    I do not argue that "Teaching is only what you do
    until you get recognized in your research."

    I do assert that a university would properly question
    bestowing the title professor on those whose primary emphasis
    is teaching without an equal emphasis on research or service.

    Best regards,

    Ken



    --

    Ken Friedman, Ph.D.
    Associate Professor of Leadership and Strategic Design
    Department of Technology and Knowledge Management
    Norwegian School of Management

    Visiting Professor
    Advanced Research Institute
    School of Art and Design
    Staffordshire University


  • 5.  Definitions of the title "professor"

    Posted 11-26-2001 01:40
    FYI - an interesting little discussion.

    Nicola

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Management Education and Development Discussion
    [mailto:MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU]On Behalf Of Ken Friedman
    Sent: Monday, 26 November 2001 5:38 PM
    To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
    Subject: Re: Definitions of the title "professor"


    Friends,

    Robert DeFillippi, Edryce Reynolds, and Gray Southon
    all raise valuable points.

    My post was not a normative statement of what the title
    "professor" should mean. It was a descriptive statement
    of what the title means, and an argument for care in
    definitions.

    Robert states, importantly, that service and professional
    leadership are important criteria for promotion. This is
    so in most places, as I believe it should be.

    It is worth noting that in some European universities,
    evaluation is made by an external committee. When this is
    so, it is difficult to incorporate criteria such as teaching or
    service, and depending on the construction of the
    committee, it is even difficult to gain a full assessment of
    broader professional contributions. In those cases, it
    can often happen that evaluation is based primarily on
    review of research.

    Some British universities (and perhaps others) address the
    problem by using BOTH an internal committee (as in the
    United States) AND an external committee. In one evaluation
    I recently saw, the charge to the committee specifically
    requests an evaluation five criteria: 1) research and
    publishing, 2) teaching, 3) leadership and service within
    the university, 4) leadership and service within the field,
    and 5) professional leadership and service.

    The university states that promotion is based on outstanding
    performance in 3 of the 5 criteria and good performance in
    the rest.

    It's clear in this case that the university must seek a
    balanced and well informed committee.

    Edryce: no need to say "uncle." I absolutely agree -- think
    I said it twice -- that teaching is vital to our mission. I
    simply pointed out that if you ask for a global definition,
    others might argue a different case than we do.

    Gray, I'd suggest reading my notes again. I did not
    prescribe. I described.

    It is possible to describe a culture that practices a
    custom (blood sacrifices, "funny car" races, debates in
    parliament, racing against a herd of bulls) without
    arguing for the custom itself.

    I did not state that "Teaching is only what you do
    until you get recognized in your research."

    I stated that there are different models of the professorate.

    No university model designates as professor those for
    whom teaching is the PRIMARY activity. All models of
    professor of which I am aware require a balanced range
    of characteristics and attributes, with a high level of
    performance on several.

    Because the university is by definition a research centered
    institution, and since professors lead departments, this generally
    means that research is an important criterion.

    This involves many nuances. There are three kinds of research,
    basic, applied, and clinical, and the kind of research for
    which the professor's title may be awarded depends in great
    part on the nature of the field or discipline and the specific
    school or university involved.

    Those who are not research active and those who cannot
    conduct original research of some kind are probably
    unequipped to properly evaluate research findings and
    they are not qualified to supervise research students.

    One of the central roles of the full professors in every
    university know to me involves developing curriculum,
    deciding on curriculum issues, and choosing among
    curriculum alternatives.

    One must be able to interpret research findings to
    develop curriculum and select appropriately among
    alternative choices -- as contrasted with teaching courses
    within a developed curriculum. This implies that one must
    be a researcher to fulfill the full range of professorial
    responsibilities.

    By definition a professor must be able to supervise research
    students and vote on advancement to candidacy or degree
    awards for graduate students.

    Again, this implies that a professor must be able to conduct
    research and to teach research skills.

    There are colleges that are restricted to undergraduate students,
    and colleges of applied studies in technical or practical
    fields. In these colleges, it is possible to become a full
    professor based on teaching or teaching and service alone.

    These are not universities. These schools typically award
    undergraduate degrees, vocational diplomas, or degrees in
    professional practice but no research degrees.

    It seemed to me that this thread involved the definition of
    the title "professor" as it is used in universities.

    Teaching and service are important. In the university,
    teaching and service form a constellation with research.

    Research is the factor that distinguishes universities
    from other kinds of schools. Since a professor who cannot
    work in the research context cannot fulfill the requirements
    of the position, appointing a professor without research skills
    is also a disservice to students and to the larger community.

    I do not argue that "Teaching is only what you do
    until you get recognized in your research."

    I do assert that a university would properly question
    bestowing the title professor on those whose primary emphasis
    is teaching without an equal emphasis on research or service.

    Best regards,

    Ken



    --

    Ken Friedman, Ph.D.
    Associate Professor of Leadership and Strategic Design
    Department of Technology and Knowledge Management
    Norwegian School of Management

    Visiting Professor
    Advanced Research Institute
    School of Art and Design
    Staffordshire University