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  • 1.  Can we teach...

    Posted 01-07-2002 18:11
    Paul, I teach leadership and ethics in a Jesuit University in relation
    to health care professions. And, I believe my courses are fairly
    effective; but, I do not imagine myself to be teaching the essence of
    leadership when I am simply teaching a complex skill set. The
    overriding themes of my graduate and undergraduate leadership courses
    are drawn from the wisdom of Lao Tsu. He says that "mastering others is
    strength, mastering yourself is true power; knowing others is
    intellegence, knowing yourself is true wisdom". Throughout my courses,
    students are challenged to know themselves deeply. They are asked to
    name their strengths and confront their fears and weaknesses - their
    "shadows" as Parker Palmer calls them. They are expected to express a
    personal mission and they are reminded continuously that it is their own
    self knowledge and character that will distinguish them as a leader.
    They will do this, or not, based on their own initiative and insight -
    not anything I can teach them. The bulk of the course co sists of skill
    sets - systems thinking, counseling and listening skills, conflict
    resolution, team faciliation, motivation, etc. They can benefit from
    refining these skills because we all benefit from improved interpersonal
    skills, but I do not believe these are what will make them leaders. The
    heart and soul of leadership is passion, commitment and self mastery.
    You can't package that in a skill set.

    Deb Bennett-Woods


  • 2.  Can we teach...

    Posted 01-07-2002 21:16
    Beautifully and clearly stated, Deb!

    Edryce

    --- Deb Bennett-Woods <DebBWoods@aol.com> wrote:
    > Paul, I teach leadership and ethics in a Jesuit
    > University in relation
    > to health care professions. And, I believe my
    > courses are fairly
    > effective; but, I do not imagine myself to be
    > teaching the essence of
    > leadership when I am simply teaching a complex skill
    > set. The
    > overriding themes of my graduate and undergraduate
    > leadership courses
    > are drawn from the wisdom of Lao Tsu. He says that
    > "mastering others is
    > strength, mastering yourself is true power; knowing
    > others is
    > intellegence, knowing yourself is true wisdom".
    > Throughout my courses,
    > students are challenged to know themselves deeply.
    > They are asked to
    > name their strengths and confront their fears and
    > weaknesses - their
    > "shadows" as Parker Palmer calls them. They are
    > expected to express a
    > personal mission and they are reminded continuously
    > that it is their own
    > self knowledge and character that will distinguish
    > them as a leader.
    > They will do this, or not, based on their own
    > initiative and insight -
    > not anything I can teach them. The bulk of the
    > course co sists of skill
    > sets - systems thinking, counseling and listening
    > skills, conflict
    > resolution, team faciliation, motivation, etc. They
    > can benefit from
    > refining these skills because we all benefit from
    > improved interpersonal
    > skills, but I do not believe these are what will
    > make them leaders. The
    > heart and soul of leadership is passion, commitment
    > and self mastery.
    > You can't package that in a skill set.
    >
    > Deb Bennett-Woods


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  • 3.  Can we teach...

    Posted 01-08-2002 17:21
    The type of decision-making situation described as his starting point by
    Paul closely resembles that regularly faced by entrepreneurs. As the
    entrepreneurship literature over the last 25 years has evolved, through
    several apparent dead-ends, a growing focus has been on the factors that
    differentiate entrepreneurs who achieve sustained, long-term success, from
    those who are able to start something and grow it, then lose it. That body
    of work may help answer some of Paul's challenges to us.

    Here's what I think the emerging picture shows:

    1. Successful entrepreneurs have deep knowledge of the fields in which
    they venture. One of the most important issues in separating the successes
    from the others is the ability of the successful ones to choose their
    issues. They do NOT take risks -- they exploit advantages that would be
    risks to other people. Hence, it really matters what ventures they choose;
    successes come of deep preparation.

    2. No attractive successes are well known in advance. Competition and
    information being what they are, new entrants quickly flow into a field
    that is shown to be "attractive" (that IS the meaning of the term!) and
    reduce marginal returns to normal levels. Hence, successes come from
    opportunities which must be shaped and adapted to as they evolve. The
    abilities to experiment intelligently, to learn and to continuously devise
    new solutions to emerging problems are essential skills for successful
    entrepreneurs. Indeed, many great entrepreneurial stories have arisen from
    situations in which inadequate solutions were continuously revised until
    enough of the right answers started to come together, creating a lift-off
    condition. Note, however, that lift-off only starts a successful journey;
    it must be continued through continuous learning and adaptation. The
    future will never be an exact replica of the past, so B-schools have to
    teach students more than memorization of historical cases. Our students
    have to graduate with rich databanks of historical experiences, and the
    thinking skills that allow them to use those data to triangulate new
    solutions.

    3. Some entrepreneurial resources are partially transferrable. Success in
    one arena doesn't automatically produce success in a different field; in
    fact, it is normally insufficient. Additional learning, adaptation,
    gathering of additional resources, may all be required to parlay success in
    one area into success in another. With each success, however, those
    resources get easier to gather. Credibility, perhaps the most valuable
    entrepreneurial resource, accumulates. The venturing process can be
    learned and refined. Serial successes remain relatively rare, however,
    because human failings (like arrogance or timidity) can easily overwhelm
    human wisdom. Success and successful models remain fragile. Self-check
    mechanisms, like reading, advisory boards, recreation, etc. can be used to
    limit that frailty.

    In conclusion, I answer Paul that we MUST make a difference in our
    students' abilities to handle the kinds of fast-paced decision-making
    environments he posits. We do have many tools. Not everything we do in
    B-schools supports this kind of decision-making, nor will experience alone
    suffice. The combination of ongoing research, theory-based teaching,
    experiential education based on existing (and hypothesized) knowledge, and
    an active search for problematic situations all help improve the capacity
    of our graduates to improve their competence in this kind of challenging
    environment.

    Yes, we can teach in this area, and no, we don't have it perfect yet.

    Best regards for a challenging and enlightening year!

    Tom Bryant

    (Liaison between MED and ENT Divisions of the Academy of Management)


    .....................................................
    Prof. Thomas A. Bryant, Ph.D.
    Director, Entrepreneurial Management Programs, Rutgers Business School,
    State of New Jersey Chair in Small Business and Entrepreneurship
    111 Washington Street, Newark, NJ 07102-3027, USA
    Tel: (973) 353-1062; Fax: (973) 353-1664
    tabryant@andromeda.rutgers.edu


  • 4.  Can we teach...

    Posted 01-08-2002 20:38
    Thanks Tom for your thoughtful response. I am grateful for many other
    insightful contributions.

    There is Chinese saying: The market place is like a battle field. I am a
    strong believer in the power of learning and education, but I am afraid that
    often business schools and universities do not pay enough attention to
    personal development as opposed to professional or academic development. If
    a person has so many unresolved issues and biases, which tend to be
    projected into situations, he or she is more likely to form wrong
    judgements. More later.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tom Bryant
    To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
    Sent: 1/8/2002 2:21 PM
    Subject: Re: Can we teach...

    The type of decision-making situation described as his starting point by
    Paul closely resembles that regularly faced by entrepreneurs. As the
    entrepreneurship literature over the last 25 years has evolved, through
    several apparent dead-ends, a growing focus has been on the factors that
    differentiate entrepreneurs who achieve sustained, long-term success,
    from
    those who are able to start something and grow it, then lose it. That
    body
    of work may help answer some of Paul's challenges to us.

    Here's what I think the emerging picture shows:

    1. Successful entrepreneurs have deep knowledge of the fields in which
    they venture. One of the most important issues in separating the
    successes
    from the others is the ability of the successful ones to choose their
    issues. They do NOT take risks -- they exploit advantages that would be
    risks to other people. Hence, it really matters what ventures they
    choose;
    successes come of deep preparation.

    2. No attractive successes are well known in advance. Competition and
    information being what they are, new entrants quickly flow into a field
    that is shown to be "attractive" (that IS the meaning of the term!) and
    reduce marginal returns to normal levels. Hence, successes come from
    opportunities which must be shaped and adapted to as they evolve. The
    abilities to experiment intelligently, to learn and to continuously
    devise
    new solutions to emerging problems are essential skills for successful
    entrepreneurs. Indeed, many great entrepreneurial stories have arisen
    from
    situations in which inadequate solutions were continuously revised until
    enough of the right answers started to come together, creating a
    lift-off
    condition. Note, however, that lift-off only starts a successful
    journey;
    it must be continued through continuous learning and adaptation. The
    future will never be an exact replica of the past, so B-schools have to
    teach students more than memorization of historical cases. Our students
    have to graduate with rich databanks of historical experiences, and the
    thinking skills that allow them to use those data to triangulate new
    solutions.

    3. Some entrepreneurial resources are partially transferrable. Success
    in
    one arena doesn't automatically produce success in a different field; in
    fact, it is normally insufficient. Additional learning, adaptation,
    gathering of additional resources, may all be required to parlay success
    in
    one area into success in another. With each success, however, those
    resources get easier to gather. Credibility, perhaps the most valuable
    entrepreneurial resource, accumulates. The venturing process can be
    learned and refined. Serial successes remain relatively rare, however,
    because human failings (like arrogance or timidity) can easily overwhelm
    human wisdom. Success and successful models remain fragile. Self-check
    mechanisms, like reading, advisory boards, recreation, etc. can be used
    to
    limit that frailty.

    In conclusion, I answer Paul that we MUST make a difference in our
    students' abilities to handle the kinds of fast-paced decision-making
    environments he posits. We do have many tools. Not everything we do in
    B-schools supports this kind of decision-making, nor will experience
    alone
    suffice. The combination of ongoing research, theory-based teaching,
    experiential education based on existing (and hypothesized) knowledge,
    and
    an active search for problematic situations all help improve the
    capacity
    of our graduates to improve their competence in this kind of challenging
    environment.

    Yes, we can teach in this area, and no, we don't have it perfect yet.

    Best regards for a challenging and enlightening year!

    Tom Bryant

    (Liaison between MED and ENT Divisions of the Academy of Management)


    .....................................................
    Prof. Thomas A. Bryant, Ph.D.
    Director, Entrepreneurial Management Programs, Rutgers Business School,
    State of New Jersey Chair in Small Business and Entrepreneurship
    111 Washington Street, Newark, NJ 07102-3027, USA
    Tel: (973) 353-1062; Fax: (973) 353-1664
    tabryant@andromeda.rutgers.edu


  • 5.  Can we teach...

    Posted 01-08-2002 20:40
    Paul,

    I agree with you wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, it's probably not the
    business school's fault. The problem stems from society at large.

    Travis Bradberry


    >From: Paul Wong <wong@twu.ca>
    >Reply-To: Management Education and Development Discussion
    ><MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
    >To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
    >Subject: Re: Can we teach...
    >Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:37:47 -0800
    >
    >Thanks Tom for your thoughtful response. I am grateful for many other
    >insightful contributions.
    >
    >There is Chinese saying: The market place is like a battle field. I am a
    >strong believer in the power of learning and education, but I am afraid
    >that
    >often business schools and universities do not pay enough attention to
    >personal development as opposed to professional or academic development. If
    >a person has so many unresolved issues and biases, which tend to be
    >projected into situations, he or she is more likely to form wrong
    >judgements. More later.
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: Tom Bryant
    >To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
    >Sent: 1/8/2002 2:21 PM
    >Subject: Re: Can we teach...
    >
    >The type of decision-making situation described as his starting point by
    >Paul closely resembles that regularly faced by entrepreneurs. As the
    >entrepreneurship literature over the last 25 years has evolved, through
    >several apparent dead-ends, a growing focus has been on the factors that
    >differentiate entrepreneurs who achieve sustained, long-term success,
    >from
    >those who are able to start something and grow it, then lose it. That
    >body
    >of work may help answer some of Paul's challenges to us.
    >
    >Here's what I think the emerging picture shows:
    >
    >1. Successful entrepreneurs have deep knowledge of the fields in which
    >they venture. One of the most important issues in separating the
    >successes
    >from the others is the ability of the successful ones to choose their
    >issues. They do NOT take risks -- they exploit advantages that would be
    >risks to other people. Hence, it really matters what ventures they
    >choose;
    >successes come of deep preparation.
    >
    >2. No attractive successes are well known in advance. Competition and
    >information being what they are, new entrants quickly flow into a field
    >that is shown to be "attractive" (that IS the meaning of the term!) and
    >reduce marginal returns to normal levels. Hence, successes come from
    >opportunities which must be shaped and adapted to as they evolve. The
    >abilities to experiment intelligently, to learn and to continuously
    >devise
    >new solutions to emerging problems are essential skills for successful
    >entrepreneurs. Indeed, many great entrepreneurial stories have arisen
    >from
    >situations in which inadequate solutions were continuously revised until
    >enough of the right answers started to come together, creating a
    >lift-off
    >condition. Note, however, that lift-off only starts a successful
    >journey;
    >it must be continued through continuous learning and adaptation. The
    >future will never be an exact replica of the past, so B-schools have to
    >teach students more than memorization of historical cases. Our students
    >have to graduate with rich databanks of historical experiences, and the
    >thinking skills that allow them to use those data to triangulate new
    >solutions.
    >
    >3. Some entrepreneurial resources are partially transferrable. Success
    >in
    >one arena doesn't automatically produce success in a different field; in
    >fact, it is normally insufficient. Additional learning, adaptation,
    >gathering of additional resources, may all be required to parlay success
    >in
    >one area into success in another. With each success, however, those
    >resources get easier to gather. Credibility, perhaps the most valuable
    >entrepreneurial resource, accumulates. The venturing process can be
    >learned and refined. Serial successes remain relatively rare, however,
    >because human failings (like arrogance or timidity) can easily overwhelm
    >human wisdom. Success and successful models remain fragile. Self-check
    >mechanisms, like reading, advisory boards, recreation, etc. can be used
    >to
    >limit that frailty.
    >
    >In conclusion, I answer Paul that we MUST make a difference in our
    >students' abilities to handle the kinds of fast-paced decision-making
    >environments he posits. We do have many tools. Not everything we do in
    >B-schools supports this kind of decision-making, nor will experience
    >alone
    >suffice. The combination of ongoing research, theory-based teaching,
    >experiential education based on existing (and hypothesized) knowledge,
    >and
    >an active search for problematic situations all help improve the
    >capacity
    >of our graduates to improve their competence in this kind of challenging
    >environment.
    >
    >Yes, we can teach in this area, and no, we don't have it perfect yet.
    >
    >Best regards for a challenging and enlightening year!
    >
    >Tom Bryant
    >
    >(Liaison between MED and ENT Divisions of the Academy of Management)
    >
    >
    >.....................................................
    >Prof. Thomas A. Bryant, Ph.D.
    >Director, Entrepreneurial Management Programs, Rutgers Business School,
    >State of New Jersey Chair in Small Business and Entrepreneurship
    >111 Washington Street, Newark, NJ 07102-3027, USA
    >Tel: (973) 353-1062; Fax: (973) 353-1664
    >tabryant@andromeda.rutgers.edu




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