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  • 1.  Experiential Management

    Posted 10-12-2001 13:50
    From: tom.walsh@equant.com [mailto:tom.walsh@equant.com]

    Greetings,

    Sorry, no references for either case, just an observation. While
    knowing the manager understands what is involved in completing their
    tasks is appreciated by those who report to them, it's been my
    observation that when managers are "actually DOING the work that their
    employees do", they are doing so not to learn, but rather because they
    can't get away from the
    work. Two reasons I've encountered for that appear to be 1) there
    aren't
    sufficient resources to complete the task and they feel compelled to
    roll up their sleeves or 2) they haven't been appropriately weaned out
    of the "hands on mode" and perhaps need "experiential learning on being
    a
    manager". Both types of instances occurred from promotion within the
    ranks, and were in organizations of a technical nature (i.e.: software
    development, network services, computer support, etc.).

    Something similar (please excuse me if you've already been there)
    was
    once defined by the phrase "Management by Walking Around". Some of the
    writings offering it might have references usable by you today.
    Unfortunately, I think the flattening of organizations has removed a lot
    of the time once allowed for what is seen today as a waste of limited
    cycles.

    Good luck on your search and I'd be interested in seeing what else
    comes out of this. Take care & enjoy!!!!

    Regards,
    Tom Walsh
    tom.walsh@equant.com


  • 2.  Experiential Management

    Posted 10-15-2001 03:58
    From: Johan Van Tonder [mailto:jvantonder@mhg.co.za]

    Sounds like a good idea. Please qualify the level of management though:
    line (operational) or senior (strategic). What is the risk in losing
    that "from the outside looking in observing objectivity"?

    Johan Van Tonder
    Metropolitan Health Group
    South Africa