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  • 1.  Plagiarism -- one solution is teaching good reference and cit skills

    Posted 09-08-2001 17:27
    From: Conna Condon [mailto:gandolf@cyberverse.com]

    This is an excellent point. Quotes & cited paraphrasing are more powerful.

    I start each of my courses off with a little lecture on the power and
    influence of quoting experts. I use the old "When E.F. Hutton speaks people
    listen" commercial to remind them that name dropping does produce more
    powerful work than plagiarism ever could.

    I am glad to hear I am not the only one with this approach.

    Conna Condon


  • 2.  Plagiarism -- one solution is teaching good reference and cit skills

    Posted 09-10-2001 12:04
    Why as Conna Condon states "Quotes & cited paraphrasing are more powerful"?

    Authoritative name-dropping may indeed produce and influence more than
    simple positional statements, this may only reflect a core principle, Ken
    Friedman states: build "on traditional knowledge by incorporating earlier
    texts into new writing".

    "Powerful work" stands on its own and does require dedication.

    As Edryce Reynolds proposes, "Let's examine our requirements of students",
    plagiarism may "be a symptom of something we should pay close attention
    to". Maybe laziness, the fact of irrelevant work, or pressure to make the
    grade does need revision. Do students require to "demonstrate their
    competence" or do they need to learn effective practices, skills and means
    of thinking within a particular field? The challenge comes in determining a
    standard schema that justly evaluates the value of assignments and the work
    produced. This may be complicated by perceptions of value involved. After
    all, worth depend both on the capacity to reveal and the capacity to
    appreciate.

    For what it may be worth, odd as it may look, currently value comes from
    givens instead of intrinsic properties. Though the givens over time produce
    an environment conducive and supporting to the givens. (Remember the
    betamax-VHS case). Even though each person freely resolves what to value
    and honor, typically the alternative selected depends more on the group
    dynamics involved. Many cases have shown, that this means an inferior
    product with a wider appeal than a superior one.

    Again as Edryce Reynolds this may be "a symptom of something we should pay
    close attention to".

    Cordially,

    Esteban Treviño




    Charles Wankel <cxx@bellatlantic.net>@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU> on 09/08/2001
    04:26:54 PM

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    From: Conna Condon [mailto:gandolf@cyberverse.com]

    This is an excellent point. Quotes & cited paraphrasing are more
    powerful.

    I start each of my courses off with a little lecture on the power and
    influence of quoting experts. I use the old "When E.F. Hutton speaks
    people
    listen" commercial to remind them that name dropping does produce more
    powerful work than plagiarism ever could.

    I am glad to hear I am not the only one with this approach.

    Conna Condon



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