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What Would YOU Do? Answers

  • 1.  What Would YOU Do? Answers

    Posted 02-13-1997 06:02
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    The Scenario

    "Bob, I think we need a policy that prohibits office dating," said Zap
    Electronics CEO Wendy Abrams.

    "Does this have to do with Jill Williams and Ted Jones?" asked HR manager Bob
    Reese.

    "Exactly," Wendy explained. "I just got notice that Jill Williams is suing us
    for sexual harassment."
    Bob turned pale. Wendy had quit a few days before because she said she
    couldn't work with Ted any more.

    "What sparked the suit?" Bob asked.

    "Apparently, Jill says Ted couldn't accept the breakup. He kept pestering her
    about giving him another chance, sending her flowers, embarrassing notes and
    such. She thinks we should have done more about it. I don't think she has a
    case. But still, we're stuck defending this suit!"

    "This is clearly a mess, Wendy. But do you think a total ban on office dating
    is the way to go?"

    "Why not?" Wendy asked. "This is work, not a social club."

    "I understand," Bob said. "But I know of a few other couples in the company
    who seem very happy. I don't think they'll take it well if we force them to
    choose between their jobs and their relationships. Besides, a dating policy
    is tricky - even employees who aren't affected can feel like the company is
    getting too involved in their personal lives."

    "Good points, Bob. But I need a guarantee we won't have another incident. I
    want you to think of the best way to do that. If that means a ban on office
    dating, that's what we have to do."

    If you were Bob, what would you do?

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    The Answers:

    While many companies have very explicit policies regarding nepotism; dating
    is another matter altogether. I do not believe that you can dictate what
    people do in their free time. I would suggest that counselling, performance
    review, etc be strictly related to job performance. Personal problems cause
    havoc in the workplace on a daily basis but this does not mean we can
    dictate staff's lifestyles. In this instance, the harassment must be
    handled the same as any other type of harassment in the workplace. Charges
    must be investigated and handled accordingly. In your scenario the
    harassment complaint needed to be investigated long before the person quit.
    If the person did not make a complaint prior to quitting, I don't see how
    she would have a leg to stand on in sueing the company but I do not pretend
    to be an expert on U.S. law. The policy that should be the priority and
    focus here is regarding sexual harassment, not dating. The company should
    already have their policy clearly stated in the Policy Manual and if they
    don't, it should be an immediate priority.

    Regards,

    Leigh Olson
    Leigh Olson Consulting
    PO Box 87, Springwood QLD., 4127, AUSTRALIA

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    I would oppose the attempt to ban dating among co-workers, because I
    don't think the company has any business (or the legal authority) to
    regulate what goes on off-duty or off the property. I would also
    review the current sexual harassment policy and practices to see
    whether they were up to snuff, by checking with the Law Dept. (or, if
    there isn't one, the company counsel for a ruling).

    Further more, I'd try to point out that there is no way to prevent
    nuisance suits, and shoot-from-the-hip panic reactions (which is
    what Wendy's doing) are likely to subject the company to greater
    liability.

    As this involves a legal issues, the best way to influence the boss's
    decision, IMO, is with legal reasoning.


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    I would put together or find a good sexual harassment training program
    for both management and staff. I would make all my employees attend the
    training. I would issue a strong policy statement that sexual
    harassment will not be tolerated in this organization.

    A good training program (which could include role playing) would have
    taught managers and employees that on the job dating situation has the
    potential for sexual harassment lawsuits. In a dating situation, any
    employee could complain that they feel uncomfortable about working with
    the two employees who are dating. If nothing is done, this employee
    could file a sexual harassment suit. People will be more aware of the
    potential for sexual harassment and job loss, and hopefully will behave
    appropriately.

    Jim Buschur
    MIT
    97 Greenwood Rd
    Andover, MA 01810

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    I would first ask Wendy about how she could have successfully managed
    the company without having a guarantee that each of her decisions
    were correct.

    If she did not see the futility of a guarantee I would suggest
    that we invest some time and resources in learning about our
    legal exposure should we take an action with less than
    competent legal advice.

    Also, I would ask Wendy if the problem was dating or the breakup.
    Since the problem is the breakup I would ask Wendy if it looks more
    like a need for training on sexual harassment than on dating.

    Suggest a policy on sexual harassment and provide training for
    supervisors on how to manage to avoid sexual harassment--even after dating.

    Bob
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    In the case of Jill and Ted, I would do 2 things. First, the obvious answer
    is
    not a ban on dating (Wal-Mart still looks curiously out of touch for having
    that policy). The answer is a complete rehab of your sexual harassment
    program. Ted apparently didn't know when he was over the line and Jill seems

    unaware of the avenues that should be in place for complaints of this nature.

    In addition, management should have known that, had they gotten any inkling
    of
    the problem from Jill, they were on notice that something had to be done.
    Included in the training should be the warning that if an office romance goes
    bad, one of the participants may be open to harassment charges, even if both
    parties had entered the relationship willingly.

    The second thing I would do is try to settle the lawsuit as quickly as
    possible. With the facts as you've given them to us, I believe Jill has a
    winner. I think all you can do right now is damage control. Part of that
    process should include your earnest efforts to retrain the whole corporation.

    Lawrence W. Mills
    Director of Human Resources
    Organization of Ancillary Services
    103 Wilsbach Hall
    State University of New York
    Oneonta, NY 13820
    E-mail MILLSLW@SNYONEVA.CC.ONEONTA.EDU
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    A ban on dating is OUT.

    I would follow the SAME procedure as any other sexual harrassment issue.

    There's not enough information here to answer completely. Was HR or mgmt.
    informed of the sexual harrassment by the female who claims she was being
    harrassed? Did they follow up on it properly?

    A BAN on dating won't stop people from dating, they'dd just cover it up.

    Sexual harrassment can come about from several different scenarios other than
    "dating". That was only an isolated incident.

    Just my .02

    Mary W.

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    Here is what we did! in response to your query about office dating.

    First we put a notice in our office inter-office bulletin to the effect
    that: "Socializing between employees was supported and enouraged by our
    corporation as long as it did not interfere with our work productivity,
    contradict our mission statement, create a conflict of interest, or result
    in any unwanted attention by one employee to or from another. In all
    respects with expect integrity, dignity, and regard for each other to be
    paramount in our workplace."

    "Should anyone experience or perceive that they have experienced a misuse
    of the above policy, they are encouraged to report that experience to our
    employee assistance program coordinator or one of our peer support
    employees. Employees who are married to a co-worker or employees who are
    involved in a personal relationship with another employee are encouraged to
    use our employee assistance program or a peer support coworker to assist in
    successfully resolving difficulties encountered in the relationship."

    This policy seems to be working exceptionally well.

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    I have a couple of comments:

    <<"Apparently, Jill says Ted couldn't accept the breakup. He kept
    pestering her
    about giving him another chance, sending her flowers, embarrassing notes
    and
    such. She thinks we should have done more about it. I don't think she
    has a
    case. But still, we're stuck defending this suit!">>

    It is unclear if this is the first time that the company has heard of
    Ted's inappropriate behavior. If the company knew of (because of Jill
    reporting it) but ignored Ted's "pestering" behavior, then I think she
    may indeed have a sexual harassment case based on a hostile work
    environment.

    <<But I need a guarantee we won't have another incident. I
    want you to think of the best way to do that. If that means a ban on
    office
    dating, that's what we have to do>>

    Given that several happy couples already exist, I think that a rule
    banning dating will cause more stress that it will solve. Even with a
    rule like this in place, people will date, and people like Ted will
    continue to pester their ex-significant-others. Ted's behavior is the
    problem. I suggest having him talk to a therapist to help him deal with
    his grief and move on, and put a policy in place to do the same for
    future "Teds".

    Dr. Wendi Everton
    Praendex, Inc.
    40 Washington St.
    Wellesley Hills, MA 02181