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  • 1.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-13-1997 04:42
    Believe me I empathize completely with you, cause we all have at some point found ourselves in the same situation. At times it is not the class but the teaching style we are using with students which causes them to respond in certain ways. I suggest considering that there are basically 4 learning styles in students:
    1. Those who like to examine
    2. Those who like theory and concepts
    3. Those who like to test and do
    4. Those who like to create
    Plus consider you have also right hemisphere dominant students as well as left hemisphere dominant students in one classroom.
    This is the basis of the 4 MAT Theory (Bernice McCarthy).This theory explains very well different characteristics of each learning style combined with hemispheric dominance.
    What has helped me in teaching is preparing my classes including activities for the 4 learning styles, and I have seen important differences in group participation.
    Of course I have little information about your situation, (and this does not intend to be a recipe),because there can be many reasons for having a "shy class" as you call it, but it would not hurt considering 4-MAT as a possible alternative..
    I hope this helps any. By the way, the authors of this theory are from the U.S.
    =========================================================================
    Ivonne Chirino
    Organizational Psychology Dept. Director
    Monterrey Institute of Technology
    Mexico City Campus
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    On Feb 13, 7:51am, V55788AV@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU wrote:
    > Subject: Shyness in the classroom
    > I'm interested in anyone's suggestions for dealing with a
    > very shy class of OB students. It's like pulling teeth to get
    > any participation in this class. I've tried asking easy questions
    > or making unpopular arguments about things to see if it'll get
    > them going, but it doesn't seem to be effective. It is a large
    > class (55 students). They even seem to be inhibited when they are
    > speaking to me from their groups. As a grad student, I'm assuming it
    > is partially something I'm doing, but I'd appreciate any secrets you
    > can share!
    >
    > Karen Thompson
    > SUNY Buffalo
    >
    >-- End of excerpt from V55788AV@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU


  • 2.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-13-1997 09:51
    I'm interested in anyone's suggestions for dealing with a
    very shy class of OB students. It's like pulling teeth to get
    any participation in this class. I've tried asking easy questions
    or making unpopular arguments about things to see if it'll get
    them going, but it doesn't seem to be effective. It is a large
    class (55 students). They even seem to be inhibited when they are
    speaking to me from their groups. As a grad student, I'm assuming it
    is partially something I'm doing, but I'd appreciate any secrets you
    can share!

    Karen Thompson
    SUNY Buffalo


  • 3.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-13-1997 10:24
    Karen

    I struggle with this as well. I had two sections in Strategic management
    last fall - one class participated very well, the other was like you
    described. I stringly encourage participation so was discouraged by my lack
    of results in the day class. I also taught Intro to business last winter
    and had a day class which was hard re participation. I had to examine what
    i was doing differently in each of these five sections. After a lot of soul
    searching I realized that it is possible to have a class where no matter
    what you do, they will be shyer than other classes. This is not helping you
    to get them to participate more but maybe helping you to realize that
    sometimes we have to accept that some classes will not particpate as well as
    others.

    Sometimes we have to realize that doing our best is the best we can do.

    In a more practical vein - try splitting your class into 6 groups (9 per
    group) and give them a different question to explore for 15 minutes each
    them tell them that they have to select the least talkative person in their
    group to report their results to the class. this report is to be no more
    than 4 minutes long.

    I have tried this in classes of this size and it has worked.

    Let me know your experience with it if you try it.

    Have fun!

    Glenn


    At 09:51 AM 2/13/97 -0500, you wrote:
    >I'm interested in anyone's suggestions for dealing with a
    >very shy class of OB students. It's like pulling teeth to get
    >any participation in this class. I've tried asking easy questions
    >or making unpopular arguments about things to see if it'll get
    >them going, but it doesn't seem to be effective. It is a large
    >class (55 students). They even seem to be inhibited when they are
    >speaking to me from their groups. As a grad student, I'm assuming it
    >is partially something I'm doing, but I'd appreciate any secrets you
    >can share!
    >
    >Karen Thompson
    >SUNY Buffalo
    >

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  • 4.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-13-1997 10:32
    What level are these students and what time is the class


    >----------
    >From: V55788AV@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU[SMTP:V55788AV@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU]
    >Sent: Thursday, February 13, 1997 9:51 AM
    >To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
    >Subject: Shyness in the classroom
    >
    >I'm interested in anyone's suggestions for dealing with a
    >very shy class of OB students. It's like pulling teeth to get
    >any participation in this class. I've tried asking easy questions
    >or making unpopular arguments about things to see if it'll get
    >them going, but it doesn't seem to be effective. It is a large
    >class (55 students). They even seem to be inhibited when they are
    >speaking to me from their groups. As a grad student, I'm assuming it
    >is partially something I'm doing, but I'd appreciate any secrets you
    >can share!
    >
    >Karen Thompson
    >SUNY Buffalo
    >


  • 5.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-13-1997 11:02
    Dear Karen,
    A good means to unleash their tongues is to let your class build business
    organizations which they then operate continuously, bear the
    responsibility for, and discuss with you in and out of class their OB
    experiences. One of several excellent vehicles coming to mind is our
    International Operations Simulation (INTOPIA), Home Page below.
    Best, hans t

    On Thu, 13 Feb 1997 V55788AV@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU wrote:

    > I'm interested in anyone's suggestions for dealing with a
    > very shy class of OB students. It's like pulling teeth to get
    > any participation in this class. I've tried asking easy questions
    > or making unpopular arguments about things to see if it'll get
    > them going, but it doesn't seem to be effective. It is a large
    > class (55 students). They even seem to be inhibited when they are
    > speaking to me from their groups. As a grad student, I'm assuming it
    > is partially something I'm doing, but I'd appreciate any secrets you
    > can share!
    >
    > Karen Thompson
    > SUNY Buffalo
    >

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  • 6.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-13-1997 12:14
    In response to Karen's question about shy students in a class:
    I've found that at least initially, posing the question to the students
    and asking them to jot down answers helps. That way, they've had time to think
    ththrough an answer; feeling more prepared helps.
    The other technique that worked for me on this, though it sounds like
    you've tried it and it didn't help, was to have them discuss isssues in small
    groups, then as a large group.
    Is something happening in either your response or the responses of otherstudents that makes them feel that they'll be criticized for their answers?
    Carol Steinhaus
    Indiana-Purdue Fort Wayne


  • 7.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-13-1997 12:15
    Remain silent until they open their mouths. Shyness is a sure sign of
    dependence. Look for the theory in T-groups litterature.

    Dr. German Otalora Bay gotalora@campus.mty.itesm.mx
    EGADE tel: (528) 3582000 ext.6152
    ITESM- campus Monterrrey fax: (528) 3284283


  • 8.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-13-1997 13:21
    I am becoming more and more weary of the attempts to display introverted
    or "shy" behavior as a pathology. A person or group of people who do
    not speak out in public may do so for a number of reasons, ranging from
    home training to cultural upbringing. I had a class with a large number
    of Chinese students. The US students always wanted the Chinese students
    to talk. The Chinese students did feel comfortable in courses taught by
    a dialogue method. Their expectation was that the teacher was their to
    impart knowledge. They were not their to share their "meager"
    experiences.

    Why is it so important to you and to others who are offering "advice" on
    how to bring students out of their "shell" for students to be verbose in
    a classroom setting?

    >----------
    >From: Dr. German Otalora Bay[SMTP:gotalora@CAMPUS.MTY.ITESM.MX]
    >Sent: Thursday, February 13, 1997 12:14 PM
    >To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
    >Subject: Re: Shyness in the classroom
    >
    >Remain silent until they open their mouths. Shyness is a sure sign of
    >dependence. Look for the theory in T-groups litterature.
    >
    >Dr. German Otalora Bay gotalora@campus.mty.itesm.mx
    >EGADE tel: (528) 3582000 ext.6152
    >ITESM- campus Monterrrey fax: (528) 3284283
    >


  • 9.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-13-1997 14:20
    V55788AV@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU wrote:
    >
    > I'm interested in anyone's suggestions for dealing with a
    > very shy class of OB students. It's like pulling teeth to get
    > any participation in this class. I've tried asking easy questions
    > or making unpopular arguments about things to see if it'll get
    > them going, but it doesn't seem to be effective. It is a large
    > class (55 students). They even seem to be inhibited when they are
    > speaking to me from their groups. As a grad student, I'm assuming it
    > is partially something I'm doing, but I'd appreciate any secrets you
    > can share!
    >
    > Karen Thompson
    > SUNY Buffalo

    Use Kolb, Osland and Rubin's workbook, OB, An experiential approach,
    published by Prentice Hall. Some of the small group exercises in this
    workbook will "force" students to interact. My undergraduate OB class
    relies heavily on this approach - students will demonstrate behaviors,
    and you can help them link these behaviors to the theories and models.
    --
    John P. Trebnik, Assistant Professor
    Department of Business & Economics
    Marian College
    3200 Cold Spring Road
    Indianapolis, IN 46222-1997
    (office) 317-929-0345 (fax) 317-929-0263
    http://maclab.marian.edu/Business/home.html


  • 10.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-13-1997 15:21
    The OB students I referred to earlier are juniors and seniors, most
    having part-time jobs. The class is 9:30-11 am.

    Thanks to those who have responded so far.

    Karen


  • 11.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-13-1997 15:28
    In response to the person asking why students should talk at all in
    class, I would just like to clarify that I'm not looking for verbosity
    from students. I think many would agree that students' ability to
    say something...anything...in class will help them learn the concepts
    being studied, whether they speak about personal experiences or just
    put into their own words those concepts. It also transmits to the
    professor whether or not what is being lectured on is getting in and
    is understandable to the students.


  • 12.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-13-1997 15:29
    Who said shyness is a pathology anyway?


  • 13.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-13-1997 15:30
    Also in response to Karen's challenge, I have use questions from the
    game Scruples for my 7:30 a.m. OB class quite successfully. It does
    seem to get them energized and the brain cells start functioning.

    >----------
    >From: steinhau@CVAX.IPFW.INDIANA.EDU[SMTP:steinhau@CVAX.IPFW.INDIANA.EDU]
    >Sent: Thursday, February 13, 1997 12:14 PM
    >To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
    >Subject: Re: Shyness in the classroom
    >
    >In response to Karen's question about shy students in a class:
    > I've found that at least initially, posing the question to the students
    >and asking them to jot down answers helps. That way, they've had time to
    >think
    >ththrough an answer; feeling more prepared helps.
    > The other technique that worked for me on this, though it sounds like
    >you've tried it and it didn't help, was to have them discuss isssues in small
    >groups, then as a large group.
    > Is something happening in either your response or the responses of
    >otherstudents that makes them feel that they'll be criticized for their
    >answers?
    >Carol Steinhaus
    >Indiana-Purdue Fort Wayne
    >


  • 14.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-13-1997 16:34
    Miles Davis <miles.davis@EXSE01.EDS.COM> wrote:

    >>... I am becoming more and more weary
    of the attempts to display introverted
    or "shy" behavior as a pathology...<<

    It may be a failure to recognize the variation of normal behavior.
    In my younger days I used to think that coworkers who did not speak
    up were afraid of reprisals, however, I now know what some people
    are just not inclined to speak up unless specifically asked. Many
    great solutions to tough problems go unspoken because managers
    don't know enough to ask. Quietness is often wrongly perceived as
    indifference or shyness.

    I can think of a few traits that may cause less than
    satisfactory class participation:

    -- Lower than average mental abilities
    -- Low interest in working with people
    -- Very diplomatic; not independent
    -- Extremely cooperative; not competitive
    -- Strongly submissive; not assertive
    -- Highly introverted; not extroverted
    -- Strongly reserved; not outgoing
    -- Very stable, poised and relaxed

    >>... A person or group of people who do
    not speak out in public may do so for a
    number of reasons, ranging from home
    training to cultural upbringing...<<

    Also, some students process data slower than others and some
    students may actually be listening and learning, while the frequent
    talkers are just exercising their vocal cords to be the center of
    attention. Which makes better employees? More effective managers?
    We often reward behaviors that are counterproductive. We should
    encourage and reward critical thinking and thoughtful replies
    rather than the quantity of replies.

    >>... Why is it so important to you and
    to others who are offering "advice" on
    how to bring students out of their
    "shell" for students to be verbose
    in a classroom setting? ...<<

    Could it be that we have a need to believe that all people are
    equally capable of all desired behaviors?


    Bob

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  • 15.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-13-1997 16:55
    Part of me wants to agree with you, but another aspect of my life,
    living and teaching in non US dominated enviroments, causes me to
    question the veracity of what you are saying. Interaction is no measure
    of comprehension, nor is silence and indication of lack of
    understanding.

    Sometimes we need to be still to allow ourselves to truly hear what is
    being convey.

    "We do not see the world as it is, We see the world as we are" -Talmud

    >----------
    >From: V55788AV@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU[SMTP:V55788AV@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU]
    >Sent: Thursday, February 13, 1997 3:28 PM
    >To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
    >Subject: Re: Shyness in the classroom
    >
    >In response to the person asking why students should talk at all in
    >class, I would just like to clarify that I'm not looking for verbosity
    >from students. I think many would agree that students' ability to
    >say something...anything...in class will help them learn the concepts
    >being studied, whether they speak about personal experiences or just
    >put into their own words those concepts. It also transmits to the
    >professor whether or not what is being lectured on is getting in and
    >is understandable to the students.
    >


  • 16.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-13-1997 17:35
    Karen:

    I second the opinion of others who are urging you to let the students make
    their own choices about the level of interaction they feel suitable. I
    think your class is large enough that you may well have to just rear back
    and lecture the old-fashioned way. We faced this challenge a couple of
    years ago when our Intro to entrepreneruship course got too popular for our
    staffing budget and we had to move from a 35 seat format with lots of
    practitioner-instructor interaction with the students to a more classical
    lecture with a 70-seat audience. But we haven't been content to turn Jekyll
    into Hyde, so we did a few other things too.

    Into the classroom we bring provocative and personable practitioners. Their
    stories and styles often get the students involved. We vary the style of
    guests to appeal to different kinds of students. (and we introduced
    smaller, ancillary seminars to stimulate that small-group interaction we
    just can't get in the bigger rooms).

    In my sections, students get 10% of the course points for "contributions."
    Nothing for attendance. Contributions can be made several ways, allowing
    for varied communication styles. I accept e-mail at the same value as
    classroom verbalizations. I encourage students to bring in off-syllabus
    articles, stories, people, readings that enrich this or future editions of
    the course. One student picked up 5 points last term by building a web-site
    of interesting stuff (he also got an 80 in his Internet course, and got
    hired as a Course Assistant for my course this term, but those were separate
    deals.) I am getting much higher participation rates, and an almost
    overwhelming richness of student-derived materials.

    Then I bring some out-of-classroom contributions into class to build those
    students' confidence that they are valuable contributors. They can work out
    of those shy shells, bit by bit. But each is a different case. Some will
    never speak in class. And some will never contribute anything to the
    learning environment and experience that is the course. So be it.

    Apologies for the long post -- lots of issues coming up here!

    Best,

    Tom Bryant.

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  • 17.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-13-1997 18:05
    You go Miles! I'm with you all the way. "Shyness" in class(actually only
    our own interpretation of quietness) is only a problem if it conflicts with
    OUR pictures of the way a class should be. I'm a big extrovert and like to
    talk in groups a lot, but not everybody else does. Maybe rather than trying
    to get the students to "come out more" a more appropriate question might be
    "What kind of teaching style is most suited to quieter students?"


    At 01:20 PM 2/13/97 -0500, you wrote:
    >I am becoming more and more weary of the attempts to display introverted
    >or "shy" behavior as a pathology. A person or group of people who do
    >not speak out in public may do so for a number of reasons, ranging from
    >home training to cultural upbringing. I had a class with a large number
    >of Chinese students. The US students always wanted the Chinese students
    >to talk. The Chinese students did feel comfortable in courses taught by
    >a dialogue method. Their expectation was that the teacher was their to
    >impart knowledge. They were not their to share their "meager"
    >experiences.
    >
    >Why is it so important to you and to others who are offering "advice" on
    >how to bring students out of their "shell" for students to be verbose in
    >a classroom setting?
    >
    >>----------
    >>From: Dr. German Otalora Bay[SMTP:gotalora@CAMPUS.MTY.ITESM.MX]
    >>Sent: Thursday, February 13, 1997 12:14 PM
    >>To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
    >>Subject: Re: Shyness in the classroom
    >>
    >>Remain silent until they open their mouths. Shyness is a sure sign of
    >>dependence. Look for the theory in T-groups litterature.
    >>
    >>Dr. German Otalora Bay gotalora@campus.mty.itesm.mx
    >>EGADE tel: (528) 3582000 ext.6152
    >>ITESM- campus Monterrrey fax: (528) 3284283
    >>
    >
    >


  • 18.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-13-1997 18:57
    Cultural differences do, indeed, account for some "shyness." But, I
    believe the person (sorry, I don't have the answer in front of me)
    who said that shyness may be just a lack of preparation.

    Sure, different people learn in different ways. But, we who teach
    management hear from potential employees all of the time that people
    cannot communicate - verbally or in writing. If we allow quieter
    students to sit and be still are we serving them well?
    Ralph W. Parrish
    rparrish@lamar.colostate.edu


  • 19.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-13-1997 20:11
    My first instinct is to agree with Miles, and my first question to the
    professor who posted the original question is, "How many foreign-born
    students are there in this class?" Asians are taught from a very early
    age that it is impolite to interrupt an instructor or even to speak out
    when invited to do so. There are techniques that can help get around
    this situation, but I before I share some of them, tell me whether this
    is even the issue.

    Bob Ingram
    Ingram Communications
    "The world is a kaleidoscope of wonder."


  • 20.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-13-1997 22:05
    Ralph W. Parrish wrote:

    >>... we who teach management hear from
    potential employees all of the time that
    people cannot communicate - verbally or
    in writing. If we allow quieter students
    to sit and be still are we serving them well?...<<

    Ask, much as an aware manager should do in a meeting.

    Bob


  • 21.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-14-1997 09:37
    Well now we are getting into the "what is the role of a teacher." I
    need to look for an article written by Dr. Jerry Harvey (The Abilene
    Paradox) at George Washington University, that challenges the premise
    that we are "responsible for" getting students to learn. Of course the
    correllary is that if they don't learn that is our fault too. He
    further goes on to deconstruct the perspective of students as vessels
    into which we pour knowledge and information; that they are the clay
    that we mold (apologizes for the mixed methaphor).

    It is amazing that one apparently simple question has spawned so much
    rich dialogue.

    "We do not see the world as it is, We see the world as we are" -Talmud

    >----------
    >From: Ralph W. Parrish[SMTP:rparrish@LAMAR.COLOSTATE.EDU]
    >Sent: Thursday, February 13, 1997 6:57 PM
    >To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
    >Subject: Re: Shyness in the classroom
    >
    > Cultural differences do, indeed, account for some "shyness." But, I
    >believe the person (sorry, I don't have the answer in front of me)
    >who said that shyness may be just a lack of preparation.
    >
    > Sure, different people learn in different ways. But, we who teach
    >management hear from potential employees all of the time that people
    >cannot communicate - verbally or in writing. If we allow quieter
    >students to sit and be still are we serving them well?
    >Ralph W. Parrish
    >rparrish@lamar.colostate.edu
    >


  • 22.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-14-1997 09:40
    My expereince in intergrating Asians into the classroom (at the graduate
    and post graduate level) is to ask a speicific person a specific
    question. It has never worked for me to engage in a general
    conversation in class and expect them to jump in.

    "We do not see the world as it is, We see the world as we are" -Talmud

    >----------
    >From: Sandy Millar[SMTP:smillar@MIT.MANUKAU.AC.NZ]
    >Sent: Friday, February 14, 1997 9:34 AM
    >To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
    >Subject: Re: Shyness in the classroom
    >
    >Personally I would like more information about integrating Asian
    >students into the classroom. In New Zealand we are getting greater
    >and greater numbers of immigrants, so any
    >knowledge/techniques/strategies would be most appreciated.
    >
    >Sandy Millar
    >Manukau Institute of Technology
    >
    >**********************************************************************
    >Sandy Millar
    >Manukau Institute of Technology
    >Private Bag 94006, Manukau, New Zealand.
    >


  • 23.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-14-1997 10:56
    On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Davis, Miles wrote:

    > My expereince in intergrating Asians into the classroom (at the graduate
    > and post graduate level) is to ask a speicific person a specific
    > question. It has never worked for me to engage in a general
    > conversation in class and expect them to jump in.
    >
    One of the ideas that shaped my agreement with Miles on this is the idea
    of social loafing from social psychology. I don't have my references at
    hand, but I will try to remember to take them home this weekend.

    ______________________
    Great Optimism,

    Dutch Driver
    Dept. of Communication
    McMurry University
    Abilene, TX
    ddriver@cs1.mcm.edu


  • 24.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-14-1997 12:09
    Shyness:

    I like Dutchie's ideas on calling on folks
    hiding in the back. Good strategy.

    I think a good prof. w/ out-going personality can
    overcome any student shyness. Humor is good for
    that actually. My students are *paired* together
    in the most basic of teams.

    Male/female
    Young/old (non-traditionals tee hee)
    Skilled/Unskilled

    It's neat to see the team spirit spread first
    in rows (not my idea of good lab. arrangement->
    just a pondscummer you know) then to the
    class as a whole.

    The spirit behind this approach is...
    We are all in this together.
    Fun and exciting to promote.
    I learn so much from my students!

    I teach Intro. to Computers, a class
    that is remedial. One of these days
    the high schools will wake up and
    prepare our undergrads.

    --
    Best Regards,

    Pat Gantt pagantt@worldnet.att.net Pat@HomeMail.com
    The University of Tennessee M.S. Human Resource Development
    Electronic Performance Instructor Information Source Locator (ISL)


  • 25.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-14-1997 15:38
    Karen

    There are some excellent tips on managing large classes (which may be
    the main cause of your problem) in the 1996 editions of
    the HERDSA News (Higher Education Research & Development Society of
    Australasia). Davis & McLeod, in their articles "Teaching
    large classes: the silver lining", point out a range of techniques
    they have found useful. The first article (Volume 18, No
    1) hightlights ways of developing discussion, curbing discussion (not
    your problem!), and so on. The second article (Volume 18, No 2) looks
    at assessment problems with large classes.

    Hope this is helpful. If you can't locate the article locally, you
    could contact HERDSA at herdsa.office@anu.edu.au

    Sandy Millar



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    Sandy Millar
    Manukau Institute of Technology
    Private Bag 94006, Manukau, New Zealand.


  • 26.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-14-1997 16:47
    > Sure, different people learn in different ways. But, we who teach
    >management hear from potential employees all of the time that people
    >cannot communicate - verbally or in writing. If we allow quieter
    >students to sit and be still are we serving them well?

    I think to a certain degree the answer depends on what role they are in, and
    their cultural orientation. Many Asians, for example, will communicate very
    differently depending on their role. The other question is whether people
    may be able to satisfy their need for communication by learning to listen
    and inquire better as well.>


  • 27.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-14-1997 17:42
    There has been some very good discussion thus far, and some techniques
    that have worked well for me have already been posted. A couple of things
    that might also be worth considering:

    1. Have you assessed -- and I mean looked at a watch or timer -- how long
    you are waiting for the student's to answer? One of the most common
    mistakes new teachers make, and I am assuming you are fairly new because
    you are teaching as a graduate student, is to jump to a probe or answer
    too fast. What seems like a long period of time when you are standing in
    front of the room is very short for individuals that are trying to
    formulate a coherent answer to a complex question. And students very
    rapidly get trained to expect you to provide an answer, which only
    exacerbates the problem over time.

    A very good technique for ensuring your students have adequate time to
    prepare an answer to a question is a variation on the nominal group
    technique. First, make sure you have a clear question. Second, tell the
    students you are going to give them a fixed amount of time to write down
    3-5 ideas, alternatives, or whatever is appropriate and that you will not
    collect this. Then write the question on the board and time yourself. 3-5
    minutes is usually adequate for everyone to formulate their ideas. Now,
    what do you have? A good question (this is your responsibility) and a
    room full of people that have thought about it and recorded their
    thoughts. All you have to do is start asking individuals what is the
    first item on their list, if anyone has the same thing, if anyone has
    anything different, etc. You have a guided discussion, and it is fair
    because everyone has something written that they can either (1) read, (2)
    report is the same as something already recorded. One note, you need to
    have a good board plan worked out in advance to organize responses so you
    can pull together everything once you have elicited lots of discussion.
    This technique is genuinely failproof, and the discussions can get very
    lively, even with a shy group, because the students own the ideas.

    2. Since I was a "shy" student a few decades ago, I have never been
    comfortable with participation by force. But I know the ability to
    verbalize ideas and participate in discourse is critical to management
    success, even for those who are content to spend their lives working with
    accounting spreadsheets, so I have tried to encourage and reward
    participation. But I have tried to do this by creating participation
    options that allow students to be engaged on their own terms. Some of the
    things I have done that worked well are:

    *current events. I use this in teaching strategy. I start every class by
    asking for current events from members of the class and having a
    discussion about the relevance for firms, why a current event is
    important, and how firms might respond. Because it all starts with a very
    factual question, it is very easy for students to bring something in.
    Since you have a very small class (at least 55 sounds small to me ;)), you
    can easily track individuals and forewarn them that you want them to
    bring in a news article. It is easy for them to take something out of the
    newspaper and read it in class, and I do not push it any further. It is a
    start on participation, and I can build from there. Also, it is amazingly
    easy to find something to link to class out of 3 current events.

    *alternative forms of participation. This is a technique that has worked
    well for me in the U.S. and Asia. I have participation as a course
    requirement, but I give the students many options for fulfilling this
    requirement, including participating in class discussions. But I also
    include options such as the submission of written comments and
    observations, reports applying material to the student's own experiences,
    submission of magazine/WSJ/newpaper articles along with a short write-up
    and analysis of the relationship with course materials, and hypothetical
    exam questions with an answer key (I bounce these back if they need
    additional work). The amount of optional work students will put forth for
    10% of their grade is stunning, and I have also found that students
    generally will do some of everything. In addition, the student that has
    spent time relating a magazine article to the course material is very
    often primed to participate in class at some point.

    3. I think the comment about leadership is a good one, but I would take
    it a step further. There is a culture of sorts in every classroom, and it
    is a culture of our making. If we think about what we want to accomplish
    and who the students are, we can probably build a culture of
    participation. For instance, I have taught in Asia and faced the
    reluctance to participate and share experiences. The way I worked with it
    was to have a participation requirement and to give the class 10 minutes
    at the end of every class (180 minute sections) to write out an experience
    or comment that related to the class material, and I allowed this to
    count for credit. I "graded" these immediately, then I started the next
    class by sharing 2-3 of the best comments/observations with the entire
    class, identifying the author and encouraging others to share similar
    observations. I found classroom discussion increased dramatically within
    2 weeks, led by the people that had a great deal to offer and pulling
    everyone along. By legitimating the students experiences and specifically
    identifying the learning possible by sharing of experiences, I made
    discussion valued. And many more amazing things happened. The number and
    length of written contributions took off (I commented on every one and
    emphasized the positive contributions; this was a lot of work, but I
    could process 120 papers in about 4 hours). And students started inviting
    me to their plants and factories to see their workplaces and share their
    problems. These were students that had been taught by American faculty
    for a full year, all of whom attested they were "shy." I think not. They
    just needed the latitude to participate on their own terms.

    ============================================= Jack [Brittain@UTDallas.edu]

    On Thu, 13 Feb 1997 V55788AV@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU wrote:

    > I'm interested in anyone's suggestions for dealing with a
    > very shy class of OB students. It's like pulling teeth to get
    > any participation in this class. I've tried asking easy questions
    > or making unpopular arguments about things to see if it'll get
    > them going, but it doesn't seem to be effective. It is a large
    > class (55 students). They even seem to be inhibited when they are
    > speaking to me from their groups. As a grad student, I'm assuming it
    > is partially something I'm doing, but I'd appreciate any secrets you
    > can share!
    >
    > Karen Thompson
    > SUNY Buffalo
    >


  • 28.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-14-1997 21:35
    Personally I would like more information about integrating Asian
    students into the classroom. In New Zealand we are getting greater
    and greater numbers of immigrants, so any
    knowledge/techniques/strategies would be most appreciated.

    Sandy Millar
    Manukau Institute of Technology

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    Sandy Millar
    Manukau Institute of Technology
    Private Bag 94006, Manukau, New Zealand.


  • 29.  Shyness in the classroom

    Posted 02-15-1997 11:30
    i think that one of the factors preventing many students from speaking out
    is the competitive atmosphere in the class. there are very few people who
    do not speak in some kind of group situation, such as their own families or
    with their friends. in families and among friends, there is supposedly no
    competitive atmosphere, although we all know examples to the contrary. my
    point is, why not try reducing or eliminating the air of competition in the
    class, no matter what the size? my greatest challenge is to forge an
    atmosphere of safety and collaboration in the classroom, and i believe we
    should be doing this in the business world as well.

    i've used small groups and pairs in large classes, and it works very well.
    what needs to be redefined is, what is class participation? this has two
    parts: subject matter and mode of communication. re subject matter: i feel
    that if i can get a shy student to say anything at all, that's great. so i
    occasionally have them all talk about their best and worst experiences at
    the university, and other mundane but meaningful topics which can always
    somehow be related to the subject under discussion. re mode: i count small
    group or pair participation as class participation early in the semester. i
    watch each group or pair in turn, to see if everyone is participating. as
    time goes by, they get used to talking to each other (it also helps to let
    them keep their small groups fairly constant so that they feel safe). then
    they are able to talk about increasingly more controversial topics later in
    the semester.

    redefining class participation means that i cannot use content for grading
    purposes, but that's fine with me. there are plenty of other ways to
    evaluate them. if there are no right or wrong answers in class discussion,
    an atmosphere of safety, fun, and even collaboration can be fostered. i
    strongly feel that our goal as teachers is not just information transfer but
    to sharpen student's minds so that they can think for themselves long after
    my class is over.

    Bev Smith