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  • 1.  14 Feb 1997, Communication Styles

    Posted 02-15-1997 12:30
    Miles,
    Please accept my context. I was participating in a discussion on
    Management Education. Accordingly although there is a place for
    "taciturns" in this world (maybe that is why academia was invented),
    employees are poorly served by a taciturn manager.

    A major role of a manager is to be a role model for the learning process.
    If open dialog is to be the modus operandi of the learning organization,
    then participative communication is a key skill and there is no place for a
    taciturn.

    Better they learn how communicate and dialog in management school than on
    the backs of employees.

    OBTW, it may be well to recall the old proverb that goes something like: I
    HEAR and I am aware, I SEE and I understand, I DO and I remember.

    On Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:52:59, "Davis, Miles" wrote:
    >Subject: Re: Communication Styles.
    >
    >I am really having a problem with this one and only one way line of
    >reasoning.
    >Your underlying premsie seems to be that one can not learn in a didactic
    >mode. And that learning only takes place in the presence of overt
    >communication.
    >
    >The view point is problematic from several perspectics, but first we
    >need to look at what we are calling "learning." How does that differ
    >from knowledge and information?
    >
    >And some people actually are taciturn individuals. What they aspire for
    >out of management education may not be to serve as a functionary in the
    >"real world" of business.
    >>

    and, regarding your next note in the Topic:
    >I'm with you George.
    we can't be very far apart in our views because I am with George, as well.

    Jack Ring
    Innovation Management
    32712 N. 70th St.
    Scottsdale, AZ 85262-7143 USA
    602-488-4615
    Fax) 602-488-4616


  • 2.  14 Feb 1997, Communication Styles

    Posted 02-17-1997 16:30
    I guess part of my problem is the assumption that all people who are
    getting a "Management Education" are doing so to become "Leaders,
    Managers" or what have you in organizations. There is a myriad of
    reasons why students attend any management education program. Learing
    does not always imply skill application.

    However, I am with you that it is beeter to work on skills in a
    classroom then on employees backs.
    "We do not see the world as it is, We see the world as we are" -Talmud

    >----------
    >From: Jack Ring[SMTP:jring@AMUG.ORG]
    >Sent: Saturday, February 15, 1997 12:30 PM
    >To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
    >Subject: Re: 14 Feb 1997, Communication Styles
    >
    >Miles,
    >Please accept my context. I was participating in a discussion on
    >Management Education. Accordingly although there is a place for
    >"taciturns" in this world (maybe that is why academia was invented),
    >employees are poorly served by a taciturn manager.
    >
    >A major role of a manager is to be a role model for the learning process.
    >If open dialog is to be the modus operandi of the learning organization,
    >then participative communication is a key skill and there is no place for a
    >taciturn.
    >
    >Better they learn how communicate and dialog in management school than on
    >the backs of employees.
    >
    >OBTW, it may be well to recall the old proverb that goes something like: I
    >HEAR and I am aware, I SEE and I understand, I DO and I remember.
    >
    >On Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:52:59, "Davis, Miles" wrote:
    >>Subject: Re: Communication Styles.
    >>
    >>I am really having a problem with this one and only one way line of
    >>reasoning.
    >>Your underlying premsie seems to be that one can not learn in a didactic
    >>mode. And that learning only takes place in the presence of overt
    >>communication.
    >>
    >>The view point is problematic from several perspectics, but first we
    >>need to look at what we are calling "learning." How does that differ
    >>from knowledge and information?
    >>
    >>And some people actually are taciturn individuals. What they aspire for
    >>out of management education may not be to serve as a functionary in the
    >>"real world" of business.
    >>>
    >
    >and, regarding your next note in the Topic:
    >>I'm with you George.
    >we can't be very far apart in our views because I am with George, as well.
    >
    >Jack Ring
    >Innovation Management
    >32712 N. 70th St.
    >Scottsdale, AZ 85262-7143 USA
    >602-488-4615
    >Fax) 602-488-4616
    >