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  • 1.  Trust -Reply

    Posted 03-20-1997 09:39
    I have a rather rudimentary model of a "trust" culture
    that I try to teach my students. It follows below, lets
    see if it prompts any further discussion......

    CONSISTENCY leads to TRUST which leads to
    RISK-TAKING which leads to CREATIVITY which
    leads to INNOVATION which leads to SUCCESS and
    ultimate SURVIVAL.

    Now, as you can imagine, in this model the notion of
    consistency is crucial. It is not intended to suggest
    unchanging, but rather an understanding of what is to
    be expected by all of each other in working together.

    Well, there's a lot more to it, obviously, but
    sometimes a few words can prime the pump, so to
    speak.

    Thanks, Chris

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  • 2.  Trust -Reply

    Posted 03-20-1997 09:47
    >I have a rather rudimentary model of a "trust" culture
    >that I try to teach my students. It follows below, lets
    >see if it prompts any further discussion......
    >
    >CONSISTENCY leads to TRUST which leads to
    >RISK-TAKING which leads to CREATIVITY which
    >leads to INNOVATION which leads to SUCCESS and
    >ultimate SURVIVAL.

    Reminds me of a Kepner & Tregoe study I just reviewed that reports that over
    70 percent of workers and managers observe that management priorities change
    frequently in their work environment. No consistency.

    Regards,

    R. Dante Vilardi
    Managing Editor, Innovation Line

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  • 3.  Trust -Reply

    Posted 03-20-1997 13:32
    One of my colleagues, Greg Huszczo, who has a new
    book out on teams, talks about trust in terms of
    "doing what you said you would do." I think this
    is consistent with consistency.
    - DRE


  • 4.  Trust -Reply

    Posted 03-21-1997 09:03
    I am having problems with the "Trust Model" for just the reason cited:
    In a time of "white water" what does consistency mean?

    I further offer that trust means different things to different people in
    different situations. For example, I often have to work as part of a
    team in management consulting, I trust that my colleagues will do their
    share and part of the work without me or any other task leader
    micro-managing. I trust that my colleagues are competent and that they
    will do what has to be done to serve our client.

    Fortunately, I believe in the people I work with and for. Are there
    interpersonal differences? Sure, but the job always gets done, AND DONE
    WELL.

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    >From: Innovation Line[SMTP:dante@INNOVATIONLINE.COM]
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    >To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
    >Subject: Re: Trust -Reply
    >
    >>I have a rather rudimentary model of a "trust" culture
    >>that I try to teach my students. It follows below, lets
    >>see if it prompts any further discussion......
    >>
    >>CONSISTENCY leads to TRUST which leads to
    >>RISK-TAKING which leads to CREATIVITY which
    >>leads to INNOVATION which leads to SUCCESS and
    >>ultimate SURVIVAL.
    >
    >Reminds me of a Kepner & Tregoe study I just reviewed that reports that over
    >70 percent of workers and managers observe that management priorities change
    >frequently in their work environment. No consistency.
    >
    >Regards,
    >
    >R. Dante Vilardi
    >Managing Editor, Innovation Line
    >
    >======= INNOVATION LINE =================
    > news - trends - forecasts - for managers who lead.
    > http://www.innovationline.com Subs. $72 per year.
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    >


  • 5.  Trust -Reply

    Posted 03-21-1997 15:16
    Yes, I agree.

    If "punching you in the nose every time I see you" is consistent, then trust
    must occur. Right?

    Sorry that I disagree.

    Cheers,

    Duane

    Duane C. Tway, Ph.D., "The Trust Doctor"
    Consultants for Organization Response and Effectiveness (C.O.R.E.)
    7022 E. Hacienda Reposo
    Tucson, AZ 85715-4919
    Ph 520 721-6642
    Fx 520 721-1398
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    "Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth,
    And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings..."

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    solutions.


  • 6.  Trust -Reply

    Posted 03-21-1997 17:40
    Duane per chance are you saying that "consistency" of behaviour has no value
    as it relates to the development and enhancement of trust?

    Your example is an excellent one from two perspectives:
    1- A fully functioning human being wouldn't view "punching in the nose every
    time I see you" as behaviour "consistent" with his/her norms.....hence no
    trust will be built with the "puncher"
    2- The puncher however will build a "trusting" relationship with other
    societally challenged human beings who value the consistency of being
    punched in the nose everytime.

    Besides the model was presented as a simple to use (understand) model, it
    wasn't intended to describe or define all the the dimensions or
    complexities, and, I believe that "consistency" is a very important aspect
    of trust.

    At 03:16 PM 3/21/97 -0500, you wrote:
    >Yes, I agree.
    >
    >If "punching you in the nose every time I see you" is consistent, then trust
    >must occur. Right?
    >
    >Sorry that I disagree.
    >
    >Cheers,
    >
    >Duane
    >
    >Duane C. Tway, Ph.D., "The Trust Doctor"
    >Consultants for Organization Response and Effectiveness (C.O.R.E.)
    >7022 E. Hacienda Reposo
    >Tucson, AZ 85715-4919
    >Ph 520 721-6642
    >Fx 520 721-1398
    >DuaneTway@aol.com
    >
    >Faculty Advisor, Walden University
    >dtway@waldenu.edu
    >
    >"Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth,
    >And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings..."
    >
    > John Gillespie Magee, Jr.
    >
    >CORE: Practicing Fighter Pilot OD -- achieving high-flying, winning
    >solutions.
    >
    Sid Ridgley
    Simul Corporation
    23 Fry Court, Markham, Ontario, Canada L3P 4G9
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  • 7.  Trust -Reply

    Posted 03-24-1997 00:35
    Sid,

    Sorry for being a bit tongue in cheek. Didn't mean to sound like a put down.
    My research found that consistency was a wash. If people were consistently
    viewed as both competent and having mutually serving intentions, then there
    was trust. If they were inconsistent about one or the other, then trust
    became more problematic.

    The point that I think important to grasp is that consistency by itself (as
    demonstrated by your own use of "consitent with his or her norms" as a
    qualifier. That looks a lot like perception of intentions to me.

    I may be remiss in that someone else took me to task for not telling them
    that I have spent literally years researching a usable construct of trust and
    won the Arthur Anderson Worldwide Consulting sponsored ISPI Outstanding
    Student Research Award for my dissertation, "A Construct of Trust" where I
    propose a construct that can actually be used to improve trust in
    organizations. I have, in fact, service marked an intervention called
    Trustbuilding(sm) to do just that.

    Cheers,

    Duane

    Duane C. Tway, Ph.D., "The Trust Doctor"
    Consultants for Organization Response and Effectiveness (C.O.R.E.)
    7022 E. Hacienda Reposo
    Tucson, AZ 85715-4919
    Ph 520 721-6642
    Fx 520 721-1398
    DuaneTway@aol.com

    Faculty Advisor, Walden University
    dtway@waldenu.edu

    "Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth,
    And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings..."

    John Gillespie Magee, Jr.

    CORE: Practicing Fighter Pilot OD -- achieving high-flying, winning
    solutions.