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  • 1.  Group / Team Presentations

    Posted 05-23-1997 06:00
    Dear List,

    Coming from the Manufacturing perspective....

    We have identified that most failures in our processes occur where
    the functions of several departments are misaligned. These area's
    or voids (which we refer to as handoffs) are where the ball drops,
    information is distorted or lost, or someone does not come through
    to deliver product (information) or service as required to keep
    the process moving.

    When departments operate within their own confines and do not see
    how they impact, affect or support other departments, we refer to
    this behavior as Smoke Stacking. What good is it for us to have
    the best Human Resource Department if it does not understand the
    needs of Manufacturing and therefore cannot support them? What
    use is an Engineering department that is the best in the industry
    if it cannot support the Quality department in their effort to
    ship excellent product?

    The trend in our facility has increasingly become to work together
    as Cross-Functional teams to design systems that support
    processes..we refer to this as Seamless Manufacturing (not to be
    confused with SEEMless manufacturing).

    It is becoming a high priority for us to hire managers (as well as
    production hourly) that have excellent team skills. Our meeting
    processes have become Cross-functional.

    The very issues that you are discussing in this thread, i.e. Team
    support, Interpersonal Communication skills, Shared work load,
    Listening skills, Coordination of Activities and Common Goals are
    the EXACT skills that are becoming more often than not what we
    need in order to operate our business. WE are quickly moving from
    point A to point B. If you were to read a newspaper want ad for
    us when we were at point A it might have read:

    WANTED: Self Starter with good writing skills, Highly organized
    manager who requires little supervision, with a 'take charge'
    attitude.

    Today @ point B, that same ad for the same position would probably
    read:

    WANTED: Manager with Leadership skills, able to work within
    Cross-functional teams, motivator with good listening skills, able
    to cooperate and support other functions.

    I think the very reason most of you have a difficult time with
    students working within teams ARE the very issues that need to be
    addressed and resolved, because Team work is no longer (at least
    in our industry) an outside activity that is conducted
    periodically, say to organized the company picnic. It is how we
    conduct day-to-day business. Working on your own with complete
    control and in charge of an entire project is now seldom and far
    between.

    Thanks for the ears (eyes),
    Rick Corcoran
    Manager of Continuous Improvement / Employee Empowerment
    Excel Industries
    Mark I
    INTERNET:"corcoranre@excelinc.com"


  • 2.  Group / Team Presentations

    Posted 05-23-1997 12:04
    Since I routinely deal with communication, I believe that group
    assignments are for learning how to identify a problem (often the weakest
    part of a presentation) derive a solution and present the solution.

    As identified earlier, most of these students come together with the
    ill-conceived notion that the best groups will save them personal time.
    I generally remind them of two of my favorite sayings. From _The Empire
    Strikes Back_ "Do or do not Do. There is no try." And, "There is never
    enough time to do it right the first time, yet there is always enough time
    to do it over."

    I see them scrimp on defining the problem because they are conflict
    avoidant. They do not like to delve into details instead they dwell on
    generalities. For some reason, students hesitate to clearly examine and
    define the problem, instead they rush to a solution. I am clearly in the
    camp of looking for a "why" before suggesting a "what." I plan on
    changing my use of the word "problem" to "mystery" in an effort to get
    students to act as detectives ferreting out signs of evidence surrounding
    the mystery. I trust that this will activate a different frame of mind
    when they are beginning a project.

    I am also of the mind to use double-loop learning. Typical group
    assignments follow the research-report research format. This precludes
    three significant steps in problem-solving steps--design, implement and
    feedback. Seldom were we asked to demonstrate the ability of our solution
    to successfully address the problem, so the pattern was to research and
    report research, but I never got to see if applying what we were asked to
    learn would work.

    I think a large part of this is due to the timing of the group
    project/presentation since they most often occur at the end of the
    semester when there are other papers and groups that make demands on
    student's time. Perhaps requiring progress reports would encourage
    students to begin the process earlier.

    ______________________
    Great Optimism,

    Dutch Driver
    Dept. of Communication
    McMurry University
    Abilene, TX
    ddriver@cs1.mcm.edu


  • 3.  Group / Team Presentations

    Posted 05-26-1997 08:27
    97.5.23
    Rick Corcoran
    wrote (INTERNET:"corcoranre@excelinc.com" )

    about what we* call an integral solution / an integral organization.
    Behaviors, elements of knowhow, knowlegde, methods, products, processes,
    do not form an integral organization / product / service. It is how
    these elements interact, check each other for errors, support each other
    for the benefit of the *whole* which makes an integral organization.
    An integral organization is more efficient than the best run dictatorship.

    The abilities to "center" the powerfocus of an org. can be learned -
    human nature tends to take short cuts - so learning never ends. When the
    power is not in balance, the org. rocks, like the unbalanced wheel.

    Unfortunately daily practice shows little concern for a balanced approach
    in today's organizations. Power games and blame culture are the rule.

    To read more about it, go to my website, or ask for meore here.
    Emil Zahner
    *Morphological Institute Canada
    Building innovation Power Houses.
    http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/canmor/index19.htm

    <<
    From: RICHARD CORCORAN <CORCORANRE@EXCELINC.COM>
    Subject: Group / Team Presentations
    To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU

    Dear List,

    Coming from the Manufacturing perspective....

    We have identified that most failures in our processes occur where
    the functions of several departments are misaligned. These area's
    or voids (which we refer to as handoffs) are where the ball drops,
    information is distorted or lost, or someone does not come through
    to deliver product (information) or service as required to keep
    the process moving.

    When departments operate within their own confines and do not see
    how they impact, affect or support other departments, we refer to
    this behavior as Smoke Stacking. What good is it for us to have
    the best Human Resource Department if it does not understand the
    needs of Manufacturing and therefore cannot support them? What
    use is an Engineering department that is the best in the industry
    if it cannot support the Quality department in their effort to
    ship excellent product?

    The trend in our facility has increasingly become to work together
    as Cross-Functional teams to design systems that support
    processes..we refer to this as Seamless Manufacturing (not to be
    confused with SEEMless manufacturing).

    It is becoming a high priority for us to hire managers (as well as
    production hourly) that have excellent team skills. Our meeting
    processes have become Cross-functional.

    The very issues that you are discussing in this thread, i.e. Team
    support, Interpersonal Communication skills, Shared work load,
    Listening skills, Coordination of Activities and Common Goals are
    the EXACT skills that are becoming more often than not what we
    need in order to operate our business. WE are quickly moving from
    point A to point B. If you were to read a newspaper want ad for
    us when we were at point A it might have read:

    WANTED: Self Starter with good writing skills, Highly organized
    manager who requires little supervision, with a 'take charge'
    attitude.

    Today @ point B, that same ad for the same position would probably
    read:

    WANTED: Manager with Leadership skills, able to work within
    Cross-functional teams, motivator with good listening skills, able
    to cooperate and support other functions.

    I think the very reason most of you have a difficult time with
    students working within teams ARE the very issues that need to be
    addressed and resolved, because Team work is no longer (at least
    in our industry) an outside activity that is conducted
    periodically, say to organized the company picnic. It is how we
    conduct day-to-day business. Working on your own with complete
    control and in charge of an entire project is now seldom and far
    between.
    >>


  • 4.  Group / Team Presentations

    Posted 05-26-1997 08:27
    In a culture of "who's to blame" you cannot expect analysis to run well
    and deep enough. I believe the "mystery trick" to be a good one, if
    followed later by reasoning why the trick was used.

    As for the timing:
    I would suggest that the whole period is being looked at as a project,
    identifiying the needs together with the students, and how to learn what
    they need. So the semester becomes a project, and the teacher becomes
    a coach - starting out with analysing of the students requirement -
    together with the student. An "integral class of self-motivated learners".
    Comments?
    Emil Zahner
    Morphological Institute Canada
    http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/canmor/index19.htm

    Dutch Driver wrote 97.5.23:
    <<
    From: Dutch Driver <ddriver@CS1.MCM.EDU>
    Subject: Re: Group / Team Presentations
    ...cut...
    I see them scrimp on defining the problem because they are conflict
    avoidant. They do not like to delve into details instead they dwell on
    generalities. For some reason, students hesitate to clearly examine and
    define the problem, instead they rush to a solution. I am clearly in the
    camp of looking for a "why" before suggesting a "what." I plan on
    changing my use of the word "problem" to "mystery" in an effort to get
    students to act as detectives ferreting out signs of evidence surrounding
    the mystery. I trust that this will activate a different frame of mind
    when they are beginning a project.
    ---cut...
    I think a large part of this is due to the timing of the group
    project/presentation since they most often occur at the end of the
    semester when there are other papers and groups that make demands on
    student's time. Perhaps requiring progress reports would encourage
    students to begin the process earlier.
    >>