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  • 1.  Higher Self-Esteem questioned

    Posted 07-21-1997 09:38
    Just sharing some information. I am not affiliated with the publisher or
    the author.

    Finishing _Self-Traps: The Elusive Quest for Higher Self-Esteem_ (ISBN
    0-7167-2898-2) by social psychologist William B. Swann, Jr. is a great
    deal like being a Union foot soldier at Fort Sumner when the first shot of
    the War between the States arrived. You know there is a bomb going off,
    but you are not pleased at the prospect of being shelled.

    Swann's book is surely a part of the opening salvo against the unbridled
    pursuit for higher self-esteem movement. A movement that finally being
    called in to question. Swann makes a compelling case that an pursuit of
    self-esteem is but one component of the complex picture of personality
    and motivation.

    The self-traps, as laid out by Swann. indicate that excessive, unwarranted
    praise can actually work against individuals with positive and negative
    world views lowering self-esteem in the process.

    In his relating his findings, love and competence emerge as two components
    in sustaining self-esteem. Swann questions our curious love affair with
    romantic, courtly love noting that it may be destructive to our ability to
    maintain long-term relationships.

    Swann has severe criticism for the growth of individualism in American
    culture. He indicates that individualism to be antithetical to
    competence, where competence is the ability to add value to the social
    structure.

    For me, there were several moments of knowing self-recognition.
    Generally, they were found in the examples and narratives used by Swann to
    illustrate his points. Many of these points directly confront some of pop
    psychology's sacred tenets by introducing personal and social
    responsibility into the chase after a higher self-esteem.

    Truly, the one complaint is the lack graphics illustrate the underlying
    logic in support of his arguments. Much of the material in chapters two
    and three is counter-intuitive and a couple of 2x2 squares would have made
    the richness of his difficult material more accessible to the less
    knowledgeable reader.

    Overall, the provocative and evocative material presented by Swann is
    worth the effort by the reader. If _Self-Traps_ is the opening shot of a
    war, I think consultants, teachers, and managers would do well to prepare
    themselves for the coming threat of a heated and prolonged battle.



    ______________________
    Great Optimism,

    Dutch Driver
    Dept. of Communication
    McMurry University
    Abilene, TX
    ddriver@cs1.mcm.edu


  • 2.  Higher Self-Esteem questioned

    Posted 07-21-1997 10:23
    As Dutch suggested, Swann's work provides a well-researched examiniation of the
    assumption that raising self-esteem will cure poor grades.

    Blubs on the book are at:

    http://www.bookpage.com/9606bp/readersguide/generalinterest/selftraps.html

    http://www.psy.utexas.edu/psy/ARTICLES/swann-rvw.html

    Cyberregards,
    Charlie Wankel
    St. John's University in New York City
    CX@Worldnet.ATT.net


  • 3.  Higher Self-Esteem questioned

    Posted 07-21-1997 11:48
    Dutch:

    In my old "Funk and Wagnalls" dictionary "Self-esteem" is defined as
    "A good opinion of oneself; an overestimate of oneself." This definition
    of self-esteem does not appear to require a grasp of reality. In other
    words, a student with self-esteem could be poorly educated since
    self-esteem is more related to what the student thinks than
    what the student has accomplished.

    My guess is that someone studied successful people and found that all
    successful people have self-esteem, therefore, the secret to success
    is to develop self-esteem in students as soon as possible. What wasn't
    studied--again a guess--is what develops that self-esteem in successful
    people: trying, failing, trying again and eventually succeeding.

    Just a thought.

    Bob


  • 4.  Higher Self-Esteem questioned

    Posted 07-22-1997 04:06
    Bob

    I think your old Funk and Wagnalls definition is right on.

    Some time ago Time reported a standardised Maths test taken by student
    from a number of nations. Koreans as I recall came top, Americans did
    worst, Brits in between. The positions were reversed in the responses to
    the statement "I am good at Maths" !

    I think that we agree self-esteem cannot be taught. Self esteen comes
    from skills and accomplishments. It is a by-product not an end in itself.

    Robert Fritz covers this idea well in "Creating" [Fawcett-Columbine in
    the US; Butterworth-Heinemann UK elsewhere]

    Alan

    Bob wrote:

    >In my old "Funk and Wagnalls" dictionary "Self-esteem" is defined as
    >"A good opinion of oneself; an overestimate of oneself." This definition
    >of self-esteem does not appear to require a grasp of reality. In other
    >words, a student with self-esteem could be poorly educated since
    >self-esteem is more related to what the student thinks than
    >what the student has accomplished.
    >
    >My guess is that someone studied successful people and found that all
    >successful people have self-esteem, therefore, the secret to success
    >is to develop self-esteem in students as soon as possible. What wasn't
    >studied--again a guess--is what develops that self-esteem in successful
    >people: trying, failing, trying again and eventually succeeding.


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