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  • 1.  Re[2]: Hollywood Motion Pictures

    Posted 10-01-1997 11:11
    After responding to the question AND THEN reading some of the other
    responses, I hereby amend my in initial response with, "I have heard
    of ......." and "In my classes we talk about the scene where....".
    etc.


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    Subject: Re: Hollywood Motion Pictures
    Author: <MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU> at SMTPgate
    Date: 10/1/97 7:41 AM


    > Why is it a breach of copyright? Can I not rent the film and show it to my
    > class?
    >
    No, you cannot rent the film from Blockbuster Video or such and show it
    in any other place than a private family home. There is a notice on the
    front of videos telling you this. It's the screen that most people fast
    forward past that begins "FBI warning". You may not rent, copy,
    distribute, broadcast or show the film to any public gathering other
    than in a private family home.

    One of the other lists I subscribe to had a a posting from a member who
    was fined by one of the major studios $10,000 for showing 10 minutes of
    film to 20 students in a college level continuing education course.

    I wish it were a different world where we could share small bits of film
    for good purpose, but this is considered someone else's property.

    Good luck,

    Karen Boringer
    Communication Resources
    commres@rmi.net


  • 2.  Re[2]: Hollywood Motion Pictures

    Posted 10-01-1997 14:23
    Talk about some wonderful controversy! :)

    For those interested, I have been abusing major motion pictures for
    teaching purposes for almost two years now. Ha HA

    Do I thumb my nose at the FBI warning? Certainly not. I live in DC so my
    phone and email are probably routinely monitored for evidence of illicit
    video clip dispensation. You can't be too careful nowadays.

    How do I do it? Well, I could hold class in my "private family
    home", but that's not very practical. Neither is purchasing videos
    only to be viewed only once or twice. However, there is a way to
    foil overzealous copyright watchdogs. Follow me to the loophole!

    OK, OK, all kidding aside. I have been well aware of the fuzziness of
    copyright interpretations as they apply to academia and educational
    purposes in a more general sense. We have the right to photocopy
    previously published material (with certain quantity and recognition
    restrictions) for free, but the world of film media in all its forms is
    quite different, so we have be careful with our assumptions. After
    consultation with an attorney, I was able to devise an alternative
    strategy to fully utilize what I consider a tremendous source for teaching
    material that energizes students...Major Motion Pictures. By assigning
    individual projects, student must ante up $3.50 or so for a rental to be
    viewed at their leisure in their own PRIVATE HOME. I have found films to
    be an especially fruitful resource where group processes, leadership,
    cultural nuances and other relevant topics can be seen "in action" if you
    will. Granted, watching subgroups form in 12 Angry Men doesn't exactly
    mirror what would be seen in the boardroom, but with a videotape, a
    student can observe and reobserve, noting details and subtle shifts that
    would pass unnoticed in a real-world setting.

    I apologize for the long-windedness and for any offense my initial remarks
    may have produced, but I do prize motion pictures as a learning aid and
    hope that we can surface some useful guidelines from experts who know far
    more than myself. Perhaps with more information we can reap the benefits
    of this medium while remaining within the legal guidelines for usage.

    Thanks for reading on,

    Marty Kaufman
    The George Washington University
    Doctoral Student

    On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Richard Pernell wrote:

    > After responding to the question AND THEN reading some of the other
    > responses, I hereby amend my in initial response with, "I have heard
    > of ......." and "In my classes we talk about the scene where....".
    > etc.
    >
    >
    > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
    > Subject: Re: Hollywood Motion Pictures
    > Author: <MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU> at SMTPgate
    > Date: 10/1/97 7:41 AM
    >
    >
    > > Why is it a breach of copyright? Can I not rent the film and show it to my
    > > class?
    > >
    > No, you cannot rent the film from Blockbuster Video or such and show it
    > in any other place than a private family home. There is a notice on the
    > front of videos telling you this. It's the screen that most people fast
    > forward past that begins "FBI warning". You may not rent, copy,
    > distribute, broadcast or show the film to any public gathering other
    > than in a private family home.
    >
    > One of the other lists I subscribe to had a a posting from a member who
    > was fined by one of the major studios $10,000 for showing 10 minutes of
    > film to 20 students in a college level continuing education course.
    >
    > I wish it were a different world where we could share small bits of film
    > for good purpose, but this is considered someone else's property.
    >
    > Good luck,
    >
    > Karen Boringer
    > Communication Resources
    > commres@rmi.net
    >