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  • 1.  Holding classes with visually enhanced Chat

    Posted 10-03-1997 05:30
    In the Thursday, October 2, 1997 online version of the Chronicle of Higher
    Education which should shortly be revisited in the hard paper version
    there was an article on the use of a "the Palace" type chat room by
    Georgia Institute of Technology in its composition courses entitled "Universities
    Use Cartoon Chat Rooms for Serious Learning" by Kelly McCollum.

    "Professors look like comic book characters while they're lecturing.
    Students' disembodied heads float around the classroom. Is this a
    cartoon horror movie or just creative pedagogy? Actually, it's a
    novel on-line teaching environment that students in some freshman
    composition courses at the Georgia Institute of Technology are
    trying out this semester."
    "Called TechLINC,
    <http://www.lcc.gatech.edu/techlinc/>
    the system is a network of on-line chat and
    meeting rooms where students and professors can hold
    discussions, find course materials, and work together on writing
    assignments."
    "Holding class in a chat room is nothing new. Many professors have
    set up text-based on-line classrooms as part of distance-education
    programs, or to see whether students communicate differently
    using electronic text, or just to offer additional office hours. But
    Richard Grusin, chairman of Georgia Tech's School of Literature,
    Communication, and Culture, says the TechLINC system is "more
    visual and graphic."
    The students are represented by still photographs that they move
    around a cartoon university building which different "rooms" that
    students and faculty and move through and watch the chat of various
    participants typed for all in "the room" to read.
    Dr. Grusin said that "At some point this will be happening with
    real-time video and audio," he says. "We're trying to figure out,
    when this happens, what do you do? What are the pedagogical uses?"
    ......
    " Syracuse University is also using the Palace this fall, in two
    distance-education courses in information-resources management.
    The more than 60 students who take the courses never meet in a
    classroom. Instead, they hold discussions and collaborate on
    writing assignments in Palace rooms."

    It is my understanding that the Chronicle of Higher Education's electronic
    form <http://chronicle.com/> comes out before its hard paper form.
    Subscribers to the Chronicle in hard form get full text access while others
    get only abstracts.

    At the Georgia Institute of Technology site I found the statement:
    VISITORS: For information on how
    you can be given a tour through the
    actual TechLINC site, please visit the
    ACCESS section of our website.

    Cybercollegially,
    Charlie Wankel
    mg-ed-dv netmaster


  • 2.  Holding classes with visually enhanced Chat

    Posted 10-06-1997 00:19
    The discussion on virtual class rooms is interesting. I have a couple
    of questions. If these are stale, pardon my lagging behind. I am still
    new to the list and the idea of virtual class rooms.
    1. University education not only imparts knowledge but also
    socializes. We pick up not just friendships but also behavior patterns
    that are likely to last a life time. Now, is not the virtual class room
    inimical to those purposes? Or is it that the very purpose of
    university education is changing and we are playing a diminishing role
    as socializers (I don't think academics played a serious socializing
    role in the latter half of this century. However, universities did
    provide the environment). If our purpose is changing, then are there
    alternative institutions springing up to take up the slack? Are the
    students ready for such a change in other spheres?

    2. Virtual discussions are all right but should we not also
    consider the student talent level? I do expect some brickbats for
    commenting that not all students are equal but if we are asking the
    students to discuss with us the problems, we expect the students to be
    talented enough to grasp most of the materials on their own and engage
    in advanced discussion for insights with us.

    This poses two problems in my mind. With the exception of 10% of the
    student body or 10% of the universities all over the world, I doubt if
    we have such high calibre students in all universities. And I doubt if
    academics in all univerisities (most, in fact) have the capability to
    offer insights beyond the textbook, even if the students measure up.

    I might sound like a prejudiced character but even if there is a grain
    of truth in what I think, then virtual class rooms may be a success in
    only those universities where the students are extremely bright and the
    faculty match the students. Else, it will be a distance learning program
    through television, with the same old boring lecture- in fact, if
    distance learning program reputations are anything to go by,
    substandard.
    This is a hypothesis. I welcome my colleagues to update me on the
    developments and refute my thinking. I realize that I made some strong
    statements and I welcome strong comments. Again , these might be stale
    issues for many of you. But let me share with you an exchange in a
    recent management conference. We had this session on ethics and later on
    I was talking to one of the presenters. I asked her, "How do you cope
    with some of the awkward ethical questions especially with regard to
    multinationals ? The students see the direct contradiction between our
    promotion of business and our preaching of ethics !" Her response was:
    " Nothing much! My students are not that analytical anyway." I don't
    think she has an attitude problem; nor was she jesting. She stated a
    fact.
    Rao Kowtha, Singapore.
    N. Rao Kowtha
    Department of Organisational Behavior
    Faculty of Business Administration
    National University of Singapore
    10 Kent Ridge Crescent
    Singapore 119260, Singapore
    Tel: (65) 8743049
    Fax: (65) 775 5571



    -----Original Message-----
    From: Charlie Wankel [SMTP:cx@worldnet.att.net]
    Sent: Friday, October 03, 1997 5:30 PM
    To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
    Subject: Holding classes with visually enhanced Chat

    In the Thursday, October 2, 1997 online version of the Chronicle
    of Higher
    Education which should shortly be revisited in the hard paper
    version
    there was an article on the use of a "the Palace" type chat room
    by
    Georgia Institute of Technology in its composition courses
    entitled "Universities
    Use Cartoon Chat Rooms for Serious Learning" by Kelly McCollum.

    "Professors look like comic book characters while they're
    lecturing.
    Students' disembodied heads float around the classroom. Is
    this a
    cartoon horror movie or just creative pedagogy? Actually,
    it's a
    novel on-line teaching environment that students in some
    freshman
    composition courses at the Georgia Institute of Technology
    are
    trying out this semester."
    "Called TechLINC,
    <http://www.lcc.gatech.edu/techlinc/>
    the system is a network of on-line chat and
    meeting rooms where students and professors can hold
    discussions, find course materials, and work together on
    writing
    assignments."
    "Holding class in a chat room is nothing new. Many professors
    have
    set up text-based on-line classrooms as part of
    distance-education
    programs, or to see whether students communicate differently
    using electronic text, or just to offer additional office
    hours. But
    Richard Grusin, chairman of Georgia Tech's School of
    Literature,
    Communication, and Culture, says the TechLINC system is
    "more
    visual and graphic."
    The students are represented by still photographs that they move
    around a cartoon university building which different "rooms"
    that
    students and faculty and move through and watch the chat of
    various
    participants typed for all in "the room" to read.
    Dr. Grusin said that "At some point this will be happening
    with
    real-time video and audio," he says. "We're trying to figure
    out,
    when this happens, what do you do? What are the pedagogical
    uses?"
    ......
    " Syracuse University is also using the Palace this fall, in two
    distance-education courses in information-resources
    management.
    The more than 60 students who take the courses never meet in
    a
    classroom. Instead, they hold discussions and collaborate on
    writing assignments in Palace rooms."

    It is my understanding that the Chronicle of Higher Education's
    electronic
    form <http://chronicle.com/> comes out before its hard paper
    form.
    Subscribers to the Chronicle in hard form get full text access
    while others
    get only abstracts.

    At the Georgia Institute of Technology site I found the
    statement:
    VISITORS: For information on how
    you can be given a tour through the
    actual TechLINC site, please visit the
    ACCESS section of our website.


    Cybercollegially,
    Charlie Wankel
    mg-ed-dv
    netmaster


  • 3.  Holding classes with visually enhanced Chat

    Posted 10-06-1997 10:49
    At 12:19 PM 10/6/97 +0800, you wrote:
    <snip>
    >1. University education not only imparts knowledge but also
    >socializes. We pick up not just friendships but also behavior patterns
    >that are likely to last a life time. Now, is not the virtual class room
    >inimical to those purposes?
    ><snip>

    I am a first user of a chat group this session and find it an addition to
    the other forms of interaction. I also see it as a way for graduates of
    universities to continue more extended learning after leaving school. In
    addition, I think the chat group allows for more conversations to be shared
    with a much larger group than would normally be the case. The more
    aggressive students ask questions which in almost all other formats are
    never shared with the least aggressive. In the chat group even passive
    learners can listen in.

    Monty Brown
    Editor, Health Care Management Review


  • 4.  Holding classes with visually enhanced Chat

    Posted 10-07-1997 17:17
    How sad the recognition that "business ethics" is often an oxymoron has
    reached all the way to Singapore.