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  • 1.  Peer Evals and Teams

    Posted 12-18-1997 08:21
    On 18 Dec 97 at 15:12, Glenn Rowe wrote:

    > Suzanne and those discussing teams
    >
    > First, thank Suzanne for starting the discussion.
    >
    > Second, some thoughts on business vs university or "real world vs university"
    > My quick comment is that I always think of the current university experience
    > that students are going through as their "real world."

    Yes, indeed. It certainly isn't "unreal" in any sense...but the issue
    remains as to whether the context is predictive of behaviour in the
    workplace (I think that's an issue). Perhaps I'm coming at this
    wrong..my initial thought was that an evaluation process (as in a
    summative evaluation) whould reflect the ability to actually behave
    differently in the workplace. If there are factors in the workplace
    that would result in little relationship between univerisity
    behaviour and workplace behaviour, then the evaluation
    represents...what?

    I understand the process as you described below is important in its
    own right. I just wonder what implication this has for the other
    side, which is the actual meaning of the summative evaluation. So,
    what would it mean in workplace terms if a person got a D or an A
    from summative evaluation that included peer evaluation? I suppose
    the issue is the same for almost any final evaluation, mind you.

    Next, I am amazed at
    > the number of part-time students who have never had to evaluate someone (u/g
    > and/or MBAs who are managers).

    That's a very compelling point. I find this very useful, since there
    have been a number of other compelling points in favour of peer
    evaluations...I am still trying to clarify my own thinking on the
    issue.



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  • 2.  Peer Evals and Teams

    Posted 12-18-1997 13:03
    Thank you all for your responses (both on the net and off) to my remarks
    about teams. It is really exciting to find that so many people, in and
    out of the university, are wrestling with the same issues as I do daily.
    Teaching, indeed thinking about, teams is challenging intellectually as
    well as in practice.

    In regards to Bill Ferris's reply, I understand you to say that you have
    two subsequent semester courses (one specifically in team leadership and
    the next in OB) that students take simultaneously with other content
    courses. I think that we are not far off in our understanding of what is
    required to help these student teams be effective. You are providing the
    facilitation and coaching skills for the teams through the team course and
    the OB course and you are doing it while students are engaging in teams in
    their other content courses over a 2 semester period. This sounds ideal,
    and your weekend MBA schedule permits this. We have a classic part-time
    MBA as well as undergrad schedule here serving a commuter population, and
    do not have that much control over course sequencing. I teach a full
    semester course at both levels in which I teach teaming fundamentals and I
    facilitate the development of teaming skills. My experience is that
    students then go off to other content courses in which the professors know
    little (and care less) about teaming -- they put students in groups on
    projects that do not require a group to begin with, they fail to provide
    for peer assessment, and when student seek their council with team
    problems, they tell them that it is their problem and that they don't want
    to hear about it. I recently had students tell me about a course where
    the prof. assigned them to groups by name in day 1 with a project due on
    day 16 (we meet once a week for 16 weeks here), and that was the
    instructors contribution to their teaming efforts. THis is a recipe for
    failure, whether the team is in industry or in the university. Teams in
    industry who are in a context that prevents adequate identity development
    have weaker performance. What I am suggesting here is that, in my
    experience with team use in the classroom, just as in industry, the
    problem with teams is as often the organizational context as it is the
    team members. For a great book on this topic see Donnellon's 1996
    TeamTalk. I also published a paper in June 1997 in The Journal of
    Engineering and Technology Management on the topic of team social
    identification in project development teams. Bill, it sounds to me as if
    Western New England College has developed a culture that supports
    teamwork.

    In response to Glenn's comments, this is exactly what this entire
    discussion is really about. You are right, most "teams" in the university
    are "groups". The way I distinguish between them (and we should remember
    that team-ness or group-ness exists on a continuum) is that teams take
    ownership of their processes and outcomes and the members are mutually
    acountable for both. In contrast, groups take minimal ownership because
    the process and outcomes are really viewed as individual contributions
    with a cut and paste job at the end. I would suggest the problem is
    twofold in using groups in the classroom: (1) the tasks that students
    are given seldom are broad enough to require a team effort - individual
    students could accomplish the task more efficiently and effectively all by
    themselves. Part of this is breath, part of it is in the nature of the
    task itself. I am still wrestling with what is an appropriate team
    task - for me, tasks that promote team ownership are those that
    require multiple skill-sets for accomplishment, that there is not one
    right answer, or one in which the products among different teams can
    look radically different and yet all be "right", and a product that
    allows the team to put their own idiosyncratic stamp or identity on it.
    This suggests a creative product of some sort, and, in fact, I have
    seen teams used most successfully outside of OB or team classes in a
    course that we have here on marketing promotion; (2) the
    classroom situation is seldom designed to promote joint ownership of the
    team by the team members. Peer evaluations are good, but again, I would
    strongly recommend having the team develop their own criteris, I have
    found no quicker way to make it clear that I don't own this team - they
    do. The other thing that I have found critical to building "teamship"
    quickly is to provide an immediate assignment that is due very soon after
    the team is formed. This forces an intial task-related interaction among
    the members, I've found that getting started is one of the team's most
    difficult tasks. I have chosen a deliberately ambiguous task - developing
    the team's fantasy - which is due to be presented to the class on the
    third meeting in a 12 minute timeframe. They get no further instruction
    from me than that. (I did not develop this idea - someone, I'm sorry I
    can't remember who) had a paper on it in the Journal of Management
    Education). The idea here is to give them an assignment that is ambiguous
    but forces them to utilize the talents, skills etc. available in the team.
    In strategy, it might have something to do with presenting a strategic
    plan for the college or university. It doesn't matter that they don't
    know much this early in the semester, what matters it that they have to
    pool and use what they do know within the team, and get up in front of the
    class presenting themselve as a team early on. Hope this helps in your
    thinking.

    In regards to Robert Bacal, Bill and others, I do think that there are
    strong differences between teams in classrooms and teams in the real
    world, but, like a true management professor, I also think that there are
    strong similarities. However, I got tired of debating this as an
    intellectual exercise and use it as a learning tool (for me and my
    students in the classroom). We explore this in a number of ways - through
    discussion in class, but most usefully through the group project. My
    project requires 4 or 5 students (no more or no less) to identify a real
    world team, study and
    diagnose their processes and effectiveness through the course of the
    semester, and compare and contrast their real world team to their in-class
    team on multiple dimensions. This has been a fabulous learning
    experience. My students have studied the Colorado Springs Smphony
    Orchestra, the local air traffic controllers, the birthing unit staff at a
    local hospital, a virtual engineering team at Ford Micro-Electronic, the
    national help desk team at MCI, the SWAT team at the local police
    department, accounting team at the Fianacial Services Center of
    Hewlett-Packard, and the hard-wood floor laying team at a local flooring
    company
    to name only a few. Students learn the material by using it to critique a
    real team in operation, and they are inspired by the effectiveness of some
    teams and horrified by the dysfunction of others. The students must
    prepare recommendations for the real world team's improved preformance
    and present it to them, and the students are always amazed that many of
    the real world teams usually want the feedback, and place high value on
    it.

    I disagree with you Robert, that my student teams lack a mission compared
    to those in the real world - my experiences in industry with project
    development teams suggests that they view their missions much as my
    students do. Also, although I have students who view the exercise to be
    of no significance or only of value in terms of a grade (most of them when
    the course starts), it is pretty clear from the feedback that I get and
    from their final reflection papers, that, by the end of the course,
    through the team experience, approximately 70% of them view this learning
    experience to have profound significance to their future careers as well
    as as to their personal development.

    Finally, for John Sullivan, teaching them to work in teams is difficult
    and takes a hugh commitment on the part of the college as well as on the
    professor who happens to be teaching the team course. I think that my
    efforts in this one semester course are valuable and help students develop
    a foundational understanding of good team practive (agenda, meeting notes,
    peer evals, statements of norms, etc.) as well as to begin to assess and
    develop their interpersonal teaming skills. However, I think that it
    would be far more valuable if we could leverage this by having these
    skills further developed in other courses throughout their college years.




    Susanne G. Scott
    Assistant Professor of Management and Organization
    University of Colorado at Colorado Springs
    1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway
    Colorado Springs, CO 80933-7150
    719-262-3579
    FAX: 719-590-1543
    email: sscott@mail.uccs.edu


  • 3.  Peer Evals and Teams

    Posted 12-18-1997 13:43
    Suzanne and those discussing teams

    First, thank Suzanne for starting the discussion.

    Second, some thoughts on business vs university or "real world vs university"
    My quick comment is that I always think of the current university experience
    that students are going through as their "real world." Next, I am amazed at
    the number of part-time students who have never had to evaluate someone (u/g
    and/or MBAs who are managers). The peer evaluation they do in my class is
    their first time. Also, the situations some of my students find themselves
    in are similar to business situations - example, if us three give the other
    two what they deserve they may fail the course and if they fail the course
    they will not graduate. How can we do this to them? As the three spent
    about 6 hours in my office discussing this among themselves with me as a
    facilitator and as they lost sleep worrying about the consequences for their
    fellow groupmates - I was amazed at the concern and maturity with which they
    approached this situation and the fact in that in the end they accepted the
    responsibility and gave what I considered was an honest assessment of the
    other two students' contribution. They had contributed nothing - this out
    of their mouths several times throughout the semester. This is just one of
    many examples of students who learned thru the peer evaluation process.
    This was very real for them.

    Finally, I gotta go talk to my Dean

    Have a good Christmas

    Glenn

    W. Glenn Rowe, Ph.D.
    Director, Centre for Management Development
    Faculty of Business Administration
    Memorial University of Newfoundland
    St. John's, NF, Canada, A1B 3X5
    709 737 7977
    709 737 7999 (Fax)


  • 4.  Peer Evals and Teams

    Posted 12-18-1997 16:12
    On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, Glenn Rowe wrote:

    > Also, the situations some of my students find themselves
    > in are similar to business situations - example, if us three give the other
    > two what they deserve they may fail the course and if they fail the course
    > they will not graduate. How can we do this to them? As the three spent
    > about 6 hours in my office discussing this among themselves with me as a
    > facilitator and as they lost sleep worrying about the consequences for their
    > fellow groupmates - I was amazed at the concern and maturity with which they
    > approached this situation and the fact in that in the end they accepted the
    > responsibility and gave what I considered was an honest assessment of the
    > other two students' contribution. They had contributed nothing - this out
    > of their mouths several times throughout the semester. This is just one of
    > many examples of students who learned thru the peer evaluation process.
    > This was very real for them.

    To my mind, this experience alone is worth the assignment. I remember
    agonizing about assigning an "F" for the course to a student for the first
    time while I was in graduate school. Many of these points were considered
    in my decision-making process. I believe this struggle helped to
    establish my ethics and value system as much as any other experience while
    I was in school. I would not want to deprive students of the opportunity
    to have this kind of learning experience.


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