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  • 1.  Tacit knowledge

    Posted 01-20-1998 18:12
    Kenneth Brown wrote:

    >It can be hard to learn by being told what to do - even when the
    >advice is sound. It sometimes easy to learn, however, when we
    >see someone elses competent performance. My hunch is that this
    >happens because competent performance requires skills and knowledge
    >that are tacit and therefore, by definition, cannot be told.
    >

    The work of the Dreyfus brothers is important here (sorry don't have full
    reference) - from their research into adult learning they formulated a
    model which is commonly known as the 'Novice to Expert' model. They found
    5 stages of differing ability in demonstrating skills: Novice; Advanced
    Beginner; Competent; Proficient; Expert. A novice requires rule-driven
    behaviour to be able to perform a task. Most people only become competent
    after about 2-3 years in a new job - once their at a competent stage they
    are able to articulate 'how' they do a task but they're aware of how often
    the 'rules' don't work. The way to move from competent to proficient and
    then expert is to place a competent person in a situation where the 'rules'
    for that task don't apply. It's only at the stages of proficiency and
    expertise, according to this model, where the skills and knowledge become
    'tacit'. The main point made by the Dreyfus' is that often we have experts
    teaching novices - whereas the experts' knowledge is tacit and often
    difficult to communicate. Instead we should have competent and proficient
    people teaching novices because they can articulate the rules which the
    novices need.

    Regards
    Fiona


    Fiona Broadbent
    Research Officer
    Graduate School of Education
    University of Queensland &
    Fisher & Paykel (Cleveland)
    Ph: (07) 3365 6643 / (07) 3286 8801


  • 2.  Tacit knowledge

    Posted 01-22-1998 15:32
    Hi,
    Australia, like a number of other countries, has gone several steps further than this and developed a model that looks at competency as broader than simple skills and knowledge to carry out a task or job. Competency includes such things as being able to work in teams, develop and implement contingency when one's skills and knowledge are inadequate for the situation, and being able to manage the hundred and one other tasks that go to make up the primary task.

    These are recorded as competency or skills standards and at the moment cover most occupational and professional areas. To differentiate between the levels of work that exist in these areas (eg, trainee, operator, supervisor, manager, senior manager, director etc.) a number of descriptors have been defined. These describe how the competencies are applied, not the level or intensity of training that must go into them (as in the old process of novice, expert etc which some institutions, including the armed forces, still follow), and as such allow for the measurement of the outcome of the application of skills and knowledge, not for the amount of skills and knowledge an individual (or group) possesses. Much simpler, far less messy, and beyond doubt much more equitable.

    For more info please give me a yell.

    PHIL RUTHERFORD
    robnphil@ozemail.com.au


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Fiona Broadbent [SMTP:F.Broadbent@MAILBOX.UQ.EDU.AU]
    Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 1998 10:12
    To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
    Subject: Tacit knowledge

    Kenneth Brown wrote:

    >It can be hard to learn by being told what to do - even when the
    >advice is sound. It sometimes easy to learn, however, when we
    >see someone elses competent performance. My hunch is that this
    >happens because competent performance requires skills and knowledge
    >that are tacit and therefore, by definition, cannot be told.
    >

    The work of the Dreyfus brothers is important here (sorry don't have full
    reference) - from their research into adult learning they formulated a
    model which is commonly known as the 'Novice to Expert' model. They found
    5 stages of differing ability in demonstrating skills: Novice; Advanced
    Beginner; Competent; Proficient; Expert. A novice requires rule-driven
    behaviour to be able to perform a task. Most people only become competent
    after about 2-3 years in a new job - once their at a competent stage they
    are able to articulate 'how' they do a task but they're aware of how often
    the 'rules' don't work. The way to move from competent to proficient and
    then expert is to place a competent person in a situation where the 'rules'
    for that task don't apply. It's only at the stages of proficiency and
    expertise, according to this model, where the skills and knowledge become
    'tacit'. The main point made by the Dreyfus' is that often we have experts
    teaching novices - whereas the experts' knowledge is tacit and often
    difficult to communicate. Instead we should have competent and proficient
    people teaching novices because they can articulate the rules which the
    novices need.

    Regards
    Fiona


    Fiona Broadbent
    Research Officer
    Graduate School of Education
    University of Queensland &
    Fisher & Paykel (Cleveland)
    Ph: (07) 3365 6643 / (07) 3286 8801


  • 3.  Tacit knowledge

    Posted 01-22-1998 16:51
    Thanks, to Fiona Broadbent for explaining to me why I always get higher
    evals from working MBAs than from undergraduates. Thanks, Fiona.



    At 07:31 AM 1/23/98 +1100, you wrote:
    >Hi,
    >Australia, like a number of other countries, has gone several steps
    further than this and developed a model that looks at competency as broader
    than simple skills and knowledge to carry out a task or job. Competency
    includes such things as being able to work in teams, develop and implement
    contingency when one's skills and knowledge are inadequate for the
    situation, and being able to manage the hundred and one other tasks that go
    to make up the primary task.
    >
    >These are recorded as competency or skills standards and at the moment
    cover most occupational and professional areas. To differentiate between
    the levels of work that exist in these areas (eg, trainee, operator,
    supervisor, manager, senior manager, director etc.) a number of descriptors
    have been defined. These describe how the competencies are applied, not the
    level or intensity of training that must go into them (as in the old
    process of novice, expert etc which some institutions, including the armed
    forces, still follow), and as such allow for the measurement of the outcome
    of the application of skills and knowledge, not for the amount of skills
    and knowledge an individual (or group) possesses. Much simpler, far less
    messy, and beyond doubt much more equitable.
    >
    >For more info please give me a yell.
    >
    >PHIL RUTHERFORD
    >robnphil@ozemail.com.au
    >
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: Fiona Broadbent [SMTP:F.Broadbent@MAILBOX.UQ.EDU.AU]
    >Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 1998 10:12
    >To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
    >Subject: Tacit knowledge
    >
    >Kenneth Brown wrote:
    >
    >>It can be hard to learn by being told what to do - even when the
    >>advice is sound. It sometimes easy to learn, however, when we
    >>see someone elses competent performance. My hunch is that this
    >>happens because competent performance requires skills and knowledge
    >>that are tacit and therefore, by definition, cannot be told.
    >>
    >
    >The work of the Dreyfus brothers is important here (sorry don't have full
    >reference) - from their research into adult learning they formulated a
    >model which is commonly known as the 'Novice to Expert' model. They found
    >5 stages of differing ability in demonstrating skills: Novice; Advanced
    >Beginner; Competent; Proficient; Expert. A novice requires rule-driven
    >behaviour to be able to perform a task. Most people only become competent
    >after about 2-3 years in a new job - once their at a competent stage they
    >are able to articulate 'how' they do a task but they're aware of how often
    >the 'rules' don't work. The way to move from competent to proficient and
    >then expert is to place a competent person in a situation where the 'rules'
    >for that task don't apply. It's only at the stages of proficiency and
    >expertise, according to this model, where the skills and knowledge become
    >'tacit'. The main point made by the Dreyfus' is that often we have experts
    >teaching novices - whereas the experts' knowledge is tacit and often
    >difficult to communicate. Instead we should have competent and proficient
    >people teaching novices because they can articulate the rules which the
    >novices need.
    >
    >Regards
    >Fiona
    >
    >
    >Fiona Broadbent
    >Research Officer
    >Graduate School of Education
    >University of Queensland &
    >Fisher & Paykel (Cleveland)
    >Ph: (07) 3365 6643 / (07) 3286 8801
    >
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