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  • 1.  New concept?

    Posted 03-02-1998 03:15
    Dear Listers,

    Recently I am looking into an area (without knowing what specific terms to
    look for) by examining the situation of taking ideas / concepts from one
    field and applied to a totally different field. For example, a concept or
    idea taken from management, business or even industrial engineering and
    apply to construction management.

    I know that it is quite a common situation but I am not sure what keyword
    terms should I use to make my search more successful. Any references
    describing this concept is highly appreciated.

    I can be contacted by e-mail at <bspafong@polyu.edu.hk>

    I appreciate in advance for your help.

    Patrick Fong
    __________________________________________________________
    Patrick S.W. Fong
    Assistant Professor
    Department of Building & Real Estate,
    Hong Kong Polytechnic University,
    Hung Hom,
    Kowloon,
    HONG KONG.

    Tel: +(852) 2766 5801
    Fax: +(852) 2764 5131 or 2764 2572
    E-mail: bspafong@polyu.edu.hk


  • 2.  New concept?

    Posted 03-02-1998 06:23
    Patrick S.W.Fong wrote:
    >
    > Dear Listers,
    >
    > Recently I am looking into an area (without knowing what specific terms to
    > look for) by examining the situation of taking ideas / concepts from one
    > field and applied to a totally different field. For example, a concept or
    > idea taken from management, business or even industrial engineering and
    > apply to construction management.
    >
    > I know that it is quite a common situation but I am not sure what keyword
    > terms should I use to make my search more successful. Any references
    > describing this concept is highly appreciated.
    >
    > I can be contacted by e-mail at <bspafong@polyu.edu.hk>
    >
    > I appreciate in advance for your help.
    >
    > Patrick Fong
    > __________________________________________________________
    > Patrick S.W. Fong
    > Assistant Professor
    > Department of Building & Real Estate,
    > Hong Kong Polytechnic University,
    > Hung Hom,
    > Kowloon,
    > HONG KONG.
    >
    > Tel: +(852) 2766 5801
    > Fax: +(852) 2764 5131 or 2764 2572
    > E-mail: bspafong@polyu.edu.hk
    > __________________________________________________________
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  • 3.  New concept?

    Posted 03-02-1998 07:17
    One term and one resource come to mind when looking for resources on the
    transfer of ideas from one field to another. First, you might search on
    metaphor as in "Alternative Metaphors for Organizational Design" in the 3rd
    volume of the Handbook for I/O Psych. For example, various metaphors from
    engineering, biology, politics have been used to describe organizations.

    The second is the body of writing on general systems theory. See:
    Bertalanffy, L. von. (1968). General system theory: Foundations,
    development, applications. New York: George Braziller.
    Bertalanffy, L. von. (1972). The history and status of general systems
    theory. In G. J. Klir (Ed.), Trends in general systems theory (pp. 21-41).
    New York: Wiley.
    Although I don't have the reference at my fingertips, I have seen a
    wonderful, older article in the general systems theory area that describes
    and illustrates the parallels between organism and human artifact form and
    function.


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    From: "Patrick S.W.Fong" <BSPAFONG@POLYU.EDU.HK>, on 3/2/98 4:14 PM:
    Dear Listers,

    Recently I am looking into an area (without knowing what specific terms to
    look for) by examining the situation of taking ideas / concepts from one
    field and applied to a totally different field. For example, a concept or
    idea taken from management, business or even industrial engineering and
    apply to construction management.

    I know that it is quite a common situation but I am not sure what keyword
    terms should I use to make my search more successful. Any references
    describing this concept is highly appreciated.

    I can be contacted by e-mail at <bspafong@polyu.edu.hk>

    I appreciate in advance for your help.

    Patrick Fong
    __________________________________________________________
    Patrick S.W. Fong
    Assistant Professor
    Department of Building & Real Estate,
    Hong Kong Polytechnic University,
    Hung Hom,
    Kowloon,
    HONG KONG.

    Tel: +(852) 2766 5801
    Fax: +(852) 2764 5131 or 2764 2572
    E-mail: bspafong@polyu.edu.hk


  • 4.  New concept?

    Posted 03-02-1998 11:07
    On 2 Mar 98 at 13:28, Bill Ferris wrote:

    > Hi Patrick
    >
    > The classic book on what you are talking about is Thomas Kuhn's The Structure
    > of Scientific Revolution (1972?). You might consider words like (new) paradigm
    > along with words inspired by Kuhn's book. Good luck!
    >
    Great book! Unfortunately, I believe Kuhn recanted on some major
    components of it after it was published.


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  • 5.  New concept?

    Posted 03-02-1998 13:28
    Hi Patrick

    The classic book on what you are talking about is Thomas Kuhn's The Structure
    of Scientific Revolution (1972?). You might consider words like (new) paradigm
    along with words inspired by Kuhn's book. Good luck!

    Best,

    Bill

    Patrick S.W.Fong wrote:

    > Dear Listers,
    >
    > Recently I am looking into an area (without knowing what specific terms to
    > look for) by examining the situation of taking ideas / concepts from one
    > field and applied to a totally different field. For example, a concept or
    > idea taken from management, business or even industrial engineering and
    > apply to construction management.
    >
    > I know that it is quite a common situation but I am not sure what keyword
    > terms should I use to make my search more successful. Any references
    > describing this concept is highly appreciated.
    >
    > I can be contacted by e-mail at <bspafong@polyu.edu.hk>
    >
    > I appreciate in advance for your help.
    >
    > Patrick Fong
    > __________________________________________________________
    > Patrick S.W. Fong
    > Assistant Professor
    > Department of Building & Real Estate,
    > Hong Kong Polytechnic University,
    > Hung Hom,
    > Kowloon,
    > HONG KONG.
    >
    > Tel: +(852) 2766 5801
    > Fax: +(852) 2764 5131 or 2764 2572
    > E-mail: bspafong@polyu.edu.hk
    > __________________________________________________________



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    Professor of Management
    Western New England College
    Springfield, MA 01119

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    E-Mail: bferris@wnec.edu


  • 6.  New concept?

    Posted 03-02-1998 17:16
    Kuhn didn't exactly recant, but after someone pointed out that he
    had used "paradigm" in - count 'em - twenty-nine different senses
    in his original essay, he issued a revision in which he offered,
    as an alternative to paradigm, a slightly more operational idea
    called a "disciplinary matrix." It was composed for four
    categories: "symbolic generalizations" - the way a field expresses
    its basic findings; "metaphysical assumptions" - what the field
    takes for granted about the nature of reality; "values" - what a
    field considers important; and "exemplars" - the individuals and
    the kinds of work that are taken to be models of "good work"
    within the matrix.

    The other thing is that as of the 1970's and early 1980's, Kuhn
    seems to have disapproved of the way the social sciences were
    jumping on his paradigm idea, because he considered them in a
    "pre-paradigm" phase. His matrix helps understand why he might
    look at say, psychology, and conclude that it is not crystallized
    enough to be able to say what its paradigm is.

    While I am at it, here is a quote of Kuhn's I have always
    considered quite significant for the social sciences (he's talking
    about the metaphysical assumption in the natural sciences'
    paradigms that reality is "out there" waiting to be measured
    exactly):

    "But is sensory experience fixed and neutral? Are theories
    simply man-made interpretations of given data? The epistemological
    viewpoint that has most often guided Western philosophy for three
    centuries dictates an immediate and unequivocal Yes! In the
    absence of a developed alternative, I find it impossible to
    relinquish entirely that viewpoint. Yet it no longer functions
    effectively, and attempts to make it do so through the
    introduction of a neutral language of observations now seem to me
    hopeless." (p. 126, 2nd edition).

    I note in the current Atlantic the socio-biologist, E.O. Wilson,
    seems to have taken another crack at envisioning an objective
    unity of science. Haven't read it yet, though.

    Peter


  • 7.  New concept?

    Posted 03-02-1998 22:23
    Re Patrick Fong's query about taking ideas/concepts from one field to
    apply in another.

    I wonder if Reg Revans' development of "action learning" is what is
    being sought here? I have a number of references, including Revans'
    own writings, but a good clear explanation is found in Charles
    Margerison's (1988) "Action learning and excellence in management
    development", Journal of Management Development, 7 (5), 43-53.

    I am sure Patrick can find this in the HK Poly U's library. Contact
    me if you want to follow through.

    Dr John Etheredge
    Associate Professor, Department of Management,
    Hong Kong Baptist University

    Tel: (852) 2339-7569
    Fax: (852) 2339-5583
    E-mail: ethbus@ hkbu.edu.hk


  • 8.  New concept?

    Posted 03-03-1998 10:11
    Peter: Might you share the reference(s) that address the four categories
    referenced below?

    Thanks in advance.

    At 04:16 PM 3/2/98 -0600, you wrote:
    > Kuhn didn't exactly recant, but after someone pointed out that he
    > had used "paradigm" in - count 'em - twenty-nine different senses
    > in his original essay, he issued a revision in which he offered,
    > as an alternative to paradigm, a slightly more operational idea
    > called a "disciplinary matrix." It was composed for four
    > categories: "symbolic generalizations" - the way a field expresses
    > its basic findings; "metaphysical assumptions" - what the field
    > takes for granted about the nature of reality; "values" - what a
    > field considers important; and "exemplars" - the individuals and
    > the kinds of work that are taken to be models of "good work"
    > within the matrix.

    < SNIP >
    > I note in the current Atlantic the socio-biologist, E.O. Wilson,
    > seems to have taken another crack at envisioning an objective
    > unity of science. Haven't read it yet, though.
    >
    > Peter
    >

    Dave Delano
    Joint Training, Analysis and Simulation Center
    TRW - JSIMS


  • 9.  New concept?

    Posted 03-03-1998 12:32
    Dear Patrick,

    You might try "ethnography" or "ethnographic inquiry" for starters.

    Best,

    Larry Pate
    University of Wisconsin-Madison

    At 04:14 PM 3/2/98 +0800, you wrote:
    >Dear Listers,
    >
    >Recently I am looking into an area (without knowing what specific terms to
    >look for) by examining the situation of taking ideas / concepts from one
    >field and applied to a totally different field. For example, a concept or
    >idea taken from management, business or even industrial engineering and
    >apply to construction management.
    >
    >I know that it is quite a common situation but I am not sure what keyword
    >terms should I use to make my search more successful. Any references
    >describing this concept is highly appreciated.
    >
    >I can be contacted by e-mail at <bspafong@polyu.edu.hk>
    >
    >I appreciate in advance for your help.
    >
    >Patrick Fong
    >__________________________________________________________
    >Patrick S.W. Fong
    >Assistant Professor
    >Department of Building & Real Estate,
    >Hong Kong Polytechnic University,
    >Hung Hom,
    >Kowloon,
    >HONG KONG.
    >
    >Tel: +(852) 2766 5801
    >Fax: +(852) 2764 5131 or 2764 2572
    >E-mail: bspafong@polyu.edu.hk
    >__________________________________________________________
    >


  • 10.  New concept?

    Posted 03-05-1998 18:54
    Patrick,

    I agree with Earl. Any of the authors on general systems theory would be of
    assistance.

    Patrick S.W.Fong wrote:

    > Dear Listers,
    >
    > Recently I am looking into an area (without knowing what specific terms to
    > look for) by examining the situation of taking ideas / concepts from one
    > field and applied to a totally different field. For example, a concept or
    > idea taken from management, business or even industrial engineering and
    > apply to construction management.
    >
    > I know that it is quite a common situation but I am not sure what keyword
    > terms should I use to make my search more successful. Any references
    > describing this concept is highly appreciated.
    >
    > I can be contacted by e-mail at <bspafong@polyu.edu.hk>
    >
    > I appreciate in advance for your help.
    >
    > Patrick Fong
    > __________________________________________________________
    > Patrick S.W. Fong
    > Assistant Professor
    > Department of Building & Real Estate,
    > Hong Kong Polytechnic University,
    > Hung Hom,
    > Kowloon,
    > HONG KONG.
    >
    > Tel: +(852) 2766 5801
    > Fax: +(852) 2764 5131 or 2764 2572
    > E-mail: bspafong@polyu.edu.hk
    > __________________________________________________________



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  • 11.  New concept?

    Posted 03-05-1998 23:53
    Un subscribe Matthew Sturgis

    At 06:53 PM 3/5/98 -0500, you wrote:
    >Patrick,
    >
    >I agree with Earl. Any of the authors on general systems theory would be of
    >assistance.
    >
    >Patrick S.W.Fong wrote:
    >
    >> Dear Listers,
    >>
    >> Recently I am looking into an area (without knowing what specific terms to
    >> look for) by examining the situation of taking ideas / concepts from one
    >> field and applied to a totally different field. For example, a concept or
    >> idea taken from management, business or even industrial engineering and
    >> apply to construction management.
    >>
    >> I know that it is quite a common situation but I am not sure what keyword
    >> terms should I use to make my search more successful. Any references
    >> describing this concept is highly appreciated.
    >>
    >> I can be contacted by e-mail at <bspafong@polyu.edu.hk>
    >>
    >> I appreciate in advance for your help.
    >>
    >> Patrick Fong
    >> __________________________________________________________
    >> Patrick S.W. Fong
    >> Assistant Professor
    >> Department of Building & Real Estate,
    >> Hong Kong Polytechnic University,
    >> Hung Hom,
    >> Kowloon,
    >> HONG KONG.
    >>
    >> Tel: +(852) 2766 5801
    >> Fax: +(852) 2764 5131 or 2764 2572
    >> E-mail: bspafong@polyu.edu.hk
    >> __________________________________________________________
    >
    >
    >
    >--
    >David L. Moon, Walden University, dmoon@waldenu.edu
    >Business Phone: 440/446-8705; Business FAX: 440/446-8788
    >
    >
    Matthew E. Sturgis (904) 880-3725
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