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On 20 Mar 98 at 13:28, E Marshall Wick wrote:


> My impression was that the suggestion was that more 'books'
> be added by creating a listserv for each of Management Education
> and Management Development.

Putting aside the tone of the response you replied to, I think the
more accurate analogy is creating two LIBRARIES. Both of which would
have the potential of "filling up" to yield a larger number of
messages. The only way to guarantee (even remotely) on topic postings
is through a moderator. And even then there is no guarantee that the
moderator's decisions will be consistent with your interest.

> Do i correctly surmise that you are a student of management
> and have not yet reached the part of the course that deals
> with effective time management and personal productivity?

What perplexes me about those that are talking about time management
is it is those same people that are continuing this thread despite
the fact that the list owner has CLEARLY stated what will happen and
not happen.

If posting messages to no purpose is effective time management, I
need to update to this new perspective <grin>.

The alternative for people who don't like this forum is to set up
your own, in your own image...perhaps people will then really begin
to understand what "time management" means in this context.

What's the old saying: If you aren't part of the solution, you are
part of the problem?

This thread became redundant and wasteful in terms of resources about
10 days ago.

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Get over it. You used to have 3 TV channels and some how you learned to
deal with 50. Do you refuse to use the library because it has too many books?

There is a learning curve after a month or so and you learn to delete first
and read a few items second. In the beginning everyone feels overloaded.

I get 100 e-mails a day and I have a friend in industry who gets 300. The
information age is going to increase the volume of information every year
until you retire. Burying your head in the sand won't change that!

Learn to be a speed learner...and then teach your students how to do it also


At 11:21 AM 3/20/98 -0500, you wrote:
>yes
>
>On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Michael Whitfield wrote:
>
>> As indicated by others who have already spoken, I am in the process of
>> deciding whether continued participation in the list is worth the time
>> necessary to keep up. I joined in the expectation that it would yield a
>> dialogue on management education. So far, most of the messages have been
>> in the management development area. I strongly urge that this MG-ED-DV
>> list be divided into two lists, one for MG-ED and the other for MG-DV.
>>
>> I plan to give it a short time to see what happens in this regard. If the
>> list continues as presently operating, I see it as primarily serving the DV
>> side of the house, which does not meet my particular needs. I will be
>> dropping it. Are there others with similar intentions?
>>
>> At 05:15 PM 3/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
>> >Mg-Ed-Dvers,
>> > The mix of university/college and corporate professionals
>> >is done consciously to reflect the domain of the Management
>> >Education and Development Division of the Academy of
>> >Management with whom it is affiliated. I foster this mix and
>> >don't plan to divide or drop either group.
>> > The list is very active. I encourage participation and
>> >fear a moribund list more than a lively one. We are nearly
>> >900 strong now and very very international.
>> > I invite all of you to contact me when you come to
>> >New York City so we can chat in person about the list etc.
>> > Cybercollegially,
>> > Charlie Wankel
>> > netmaster Mg-Ed-Dv
>> >
>> >
>> J. Michael (Mike) Whitfield, Ph.D. 912-445-4324 - office
>> Acting Chair, Dept. of Management 912-445-0602 - fax
>> Georgia College & State University mwhitfie@mail.gac.peachnet.edu
>> Milledgeville, GA 31061
>>
>
>

On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, John Sullivan wrote:

> Get over it. You used to have 3 TV channels and some how you learned to
> deal with 50. Do you refuse to use the library because it has too many
> books?
>
My impression was that the suggestion was that more 'books'
be added by creating a listserv for each of Management Education
and Management Development. On a tv you don't go through
each channel until you reach a channel that is relevant
to you, in a library you don't 'delete' each book
until you reach the section that has the material you
want. So this doesn't seem a good analogy at all to me.

> I get 100 e-mails a day and I have a friend in industry who gets 300. The
> information age is going to increase the volume of information every year
> until you retire. Burying your head in the sand won't change that!
> Learn to be a speed learner...and then teach your students how to do it also

Do i correctly surmise that you are a student of management
and have not yet reached the part of the course that deals
with effective time management and personal productivity?

cheers!
marshall


http://www.gallaudet.edu/~emwick

John:

I'd wager that there's a difference between these messages and the 300
of your friend in industry: Your industry colleague's messages probably
relate to the business, rather than the high-level chicken-choking which
clogs so much of what is coming across this list.

As I have previously written, it appears to me that too many people have
too much time on their hands. Our shop doesn't.

I've also said that we value collegial relationships, but most of all,
we value value. The value in this list is increasingly hard to find in
the avalanche of trivia. We'll give this another few days, and if the
silliness doesn't diminish, we'll vote with our feet.

WDM

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On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, John Sullivan wrote:

> Get over it. You used to have 3 TV channels and some how you learned to
> deal with 50. Do you refuse to use the library because it has too many books?
>
>
> Learn to be a speed learner...and then teach your students how to do it also
>
As I recall it my first speed reading lesson was, "Decide what to read and
what NOT to read. I assume that applies to discussion groups as well.
The fact that there is a discussion group means that some arbitrary
choices have been made about classification. Is that to be the last time
general knowledge is to be subdivided?

Please, folks! Does anyone want to start a thread on conflict resolution?
David


>On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, John Sullivan wrote:
>
>> Get over it. You used to have 3 TV channels and some how you learned to
>> deal with 50. Do you refuse to use the library because it has too many books?
>>
>>
>> Learn to be a speed learner...and then teach your students how to do it also
>>
>As I recall it my first speed reading lesson was, "Decide what to read and
>what NOT to read. I assume that applies to discussion groups as well.
>The fact that there is a discussion group means that some arbitrary
>choices have been made about classification. Is that to be the last time
>general knowledge is to be subdivided?

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Selectivity - and it is more difficult as one plows
through all these items to find the 'gem' which
is stimulating. Fran

I'm new to the list and missed the beginning of this thread but this list appears to have only about 1/3 the postings compared to several other lists that I subscribe to. This is a continual problem of listservs which appears to best solved by...
the use of optional digests by the list administrators
using "preview" mode (where available)
putting replies on TOP of previous messages (for people who do have
the option to "preview" incoming mail)
only including relevant portions of previous messages when forwarding
learning when to reply to the list vs the individual
setting up your email program to filter incoming messages to appropriate
folders.
banning blatant and pseudo, subtle, self-serving advertising (or create a
separate digest)

I hope this is appropriate to the trend of the thread.