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    Posted 04-09-1998 14:36
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: Chester Bowling <bowling.43@OSU.EDU>
    To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU <MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
    Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 1:18 PM
    Subject: Re: [MG-ED-DV] Missing the boat...

    At 08:14 AM 4/9/98 -0400, Lee Meeks wrote:
    >To all:
    >
    >I agree with the value of original thinking vs. parroting
    >back someone else's thinking...which may have originated
    >with someone else's prior quote, which came from...blah,
    >blah, blah...
    >
    >Having established that, I am a little perplexed how a
    >discussion of management can focus on the noun, but ignore
    >the verb...
    >
    >Here's one plausible yet simple definition of management:
    >the effective planning and employment of an organization's
    >resources. I consider these resources to include an
    >organization's people, time, money, equipment, and
    >ideas...thus the notion of management must always be
    >present. Musn't it?

    Doesn't everyone plan and employ the organization's resources?

    >
    >Considering the verb "management" (which leads to
    >leadership, but that's another thread!), managing and
    >management is action: guiding or enabling the interaction
    >between resources for the purposes of furthering an
    >organization's goals. And this is about establishing
    >priorities.

    What would be the difference between your verb, management and my verb, facilitation?

    >
    >So even if a self-directed, self-organizing organization
    >chooses to think this can be done without management (noun),
    >there remains a defacto requirement for management (verb)
    >whether people choose to recognize this or not.
    >
    >I have pondered this for several days: how can there exist a
    >truly management-less organization? But given resources,
    >and a need to employ resources for a purpose, someone (or
    >several someones) either by design or by default, must order
    >the prioritzed use of those resources. And someone (or
    >several someones) must guide their interaction.

    So if the "several someones" are everyone in the organization is it still called management?

    >This concept of "action" can be authoritarian or it can be
    >"progressive"; it can also even be very passive sometimes,
    >if that is the best means to best "employ" resources. But
    >there is always a need to "manage" once the quantity of
    >resources exceeds one of anything.
    >
    >If nothing else, in a manager-less or management-less
    >organization, self-directed, self-organized or otherwise,
    >there is always a need to prioritize and provide order to
    >resources.

    So if we thought of the universe as an organization who would be prioritizing and providing the order? Who provides the order on a ship, the captain, the navigator, the ship's engineer, the ship's designer?






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