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  • 1.  On self-managed groups

    Posted 04-10-1998 20:32
    Suggest that we discuss ideas expressed in MAVERICK and Max DuPree's
    books. Also anything about the organization W.L. Gore. All of these are
    working with the idea of changing management, moving toward a more
    democratic work environment. MAVERICK is about the most dramatic story I
    have heard. The owner of a business in Brazil wrote it (forget his
    name), and has also written several articles for the Harvard Business
    Review.

    Another suggestion: visit Sudbury Valley School in Framingham, Mass.
    They run the school democratically, and have been in existence since
    1969. Fully accredited, and students are absolutely free to do what they
    want to do each day. There are other schools patterning themselves after
    Sudbury Valley all over the world.

    Coming from our hierarchical system, we may need a model to see where and
    how we get from here to there. The Brazilian firm went from a benevolent
    dictatorship to a democracy, so it can be done.

    Edryce Reynolds

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  • 2.  On self-managed groups

    Posted 04-13-1998 10:46
    Thanks to Edryce Reynolds for drawing our attention to evidence that favors
    free thought and expression. I've used DuPree's classic "The Art of
    Leadership" in a few of my classes and it's excellent work (so is Jim
    O'Toole's insightful introduction to the book). Her mention of the Sudbury
    school in Framingham, Massachusetts, brings to mind something that was said
    years ago by the head of the Summerhill program in England. The philosophy
    behind Summerhill, much like the Montessori schools in this country, was to
    give children enormous freedom to learn what they wanted to learn and to go
    at their own pace. When asked how these children would fit into society
    with rules and expectations, the headmaster reportedly said something like,
    "If any of my children ever become Prime Minister, I will feel that I've
    failed."

    However, the broader issue, as I see it, is not whether extreme freedom for
    children or employees or anyone else can be achieved or even whether or not
    it works. Clearly, it can and does work; but it also fails. The issue
    runs deeper than merely pointing to the merits of free choice or suggesting
    that a "boundaryless" approach to freedom is inherently best, a position
    increasingly difficult to defend when everything else in life is not nearly
    so absolute.

    The broader issue is about the role of structure vs. freedom in a society
    and in human interaction and the assumptions that are made about the
    relative merits of each for a given set of tasks, as embedded in the
    Tannenbaum & Schmidt leadership model of 40 years ago. We need to know
    more about the conditions necessary for freedom to succeed in more than a
    philosophical way. A "boundaryless" approach to work or education makes
    certain assumptions about the value and necessity of individual choice, and
    sometimes those assumptions are unreasonable. Alan Filley, a colleague and
    distinguished professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, tells a
    story he refers to as "The Parable of the Traffic Light" to demonstrate the
    value of rules and procedures. In our haste to stand tall for freedom, we
    can miss the benefits of structure -- whether it's the structure imposed by
    traffic lights that regulate the flow of traffic, or the structure of using
    clothes hangers to arrange our wardrobes, or the structure in education
    that communicates to students more effective ways of engaging in a task. I
    would have serious concerns if my accountant ignored standard accounting
    principles in preparing my tax return this week. I find myself surprised
    to be saying all this in support of structure, because most of my work has
    been to get people to open up and see things differently, as DuPree,
    Bennis, Perls, Reynolds and others have encouraged.


    Larry E. Pate
    University of Wisconsin-Madison

    At 05:32 PM 4/10/98 -0700, you wrote:
    >Suggest that we discuss ideas expressed in MAVERICK and Max DuPree's
    >books. Also anything about the organization W.L. Gore. All of these are
    >working with the idea of changing management, moving toward a more
    >democratic work environment. MAVERICK is about the most dramatic story I
    >have heard. The owner of a business in Brazil wrote it (forget his
    >name), and has also written several articles for the Harvard Business
    >Review.
    >
    >Another suggestion: visit Sudbury Valley School in Framingham, Mass.
    >They run the school democratically, and have been in existence since
    >1969. Fully accredited, and students are absolutely free to do what they
    >want to do each day. There are other schools patterning themselves after
    >Sudbury Valley all over the world.
    >
    >Coming from our hierarchical system, we may need a model to see where and
    >how we get from here to there. The Brazilian firm went from a benevolent
    >dictatorship to a democracy, so it can be done.
    >
    >Edryce Reynolds
    >
    >_____________________________________________________________________
    >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail.
    >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com
    >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
    >