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  • 1.  Freedom in education and at work

    Posted 04-18-1998 21:01
    Larry Pate wrote an interesting message on April 13, reflecting on these
    issues. I particularly liked the quote from Summerhill's headmaster, "If
    any of my children ever become Prime Minister, I will feel that I've
    failed." That quote made me think, though....will we always then be led
    by people who have unresolved "issues"?

    What made me think the most from his message was, "We need to know more
    about the conditions necessary for freedom to succeed in more than a
    philosophical way." I agree, and I have an example that illustrates this
    point.

    In my current job, a very good man has been appointed as "coordinator"
    for several people's programs, including mine. He does a really fine
    job, communicates well, solicits input, and has an open attitude toward
    different ways of thinking. Yet...when I told him we needed to move
    toward helping one another "mature" on the job, he balked. We have been
    having regular discussions on the subject.

    The gist of my thoughts: being free at work or school assumes a
    willingness/maturity on the part of the participants. This says a lot.
    Both Sudbury Valley School and the place in Brazil (I remembered
    it--SEMCO is the name of the company) went through tremendous upheavals
    (people got mad, quit, huffed and puffed over some issue) before they
    stabilized. If we want it, then we either have to just bite the bullet
    and try it, knowing that there will be a time of adjustment, or take it
    slowly and help the participants to mature. The latter was my suggestion
    at work. We could take baby steps at helping one another mature. In our
    case, the first baby step could include knowing more about the overall
    budget. Just let us know what's happening. Then later we can know how
    our budget relates to the budgets of other departments. Then we can
    learn how to talk together about those budgets without getting bent out
    of shape. Etc...etc...etc.

    Reading the story of Sudbury Valley reveals how hard it can be to do it
    the "cold turkey" way--but that is my preference.

    However, such a method requires that the current leaders be absolutely
    convinced of the wisdom of the direction. In Sudbury Valley's case, the
    founders never wavered; the same is true of both Summerhill's founder and
    of SEMCO's leader. These stories include the pain and the struggle, but
    they are WORTH IT! Imagine working with a group of people who really
    want to do a good job! Imaging being in class with students who CHOOSE
    to be there! What a world!

    Oh, well, I can dream. And I can hope.

    Edryce

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  • 2.  Freedom in education and at work

    Posted 04-19-1998 16:05
    On Sat, 18 Apr 1998 18:01:17 -0700, you wrote:

    Freedom in education and at work? Well, I wouldn't go that far (:-) ...
    But we once had a couple of good ideas as to more PARTICIPATION during
    the 80s. I wonder where they all have gone within those last ten
    years...

    > Imagine working with a group of people who really want to do a good job!
    > Imaging being in class with students who CHOOSE to be there! What a world!
    > Oh, well, I can dream. And I can hope.
    >
    > Edryce

    "Imagine"? Wasn't that a song by John Lennon?
    We once had a chance to build a world where people even wanted to live
    in! I think we spoiled it. Nevertheless, dream on! I'm (still) on your
    side.

    Charles Bohne


  • 3.  Freedom in education and at work

    Posted 04-19-1998 19:21
    -- [ From: Lynda Rogerson * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] --

    Hi Charles, Erdyce, and All

    I have the great fortune to teach at a private technical university
    where in most of my students are graduate level and working engineers,
    computer scientists, and health care professionals also (30-50 yrs old).
    They are highly motivated, expect me to guide (not feed) them on an
    adventure in learning---AND they want to do the learning themselves...
    IT's a big difference from when I taught at the community college or at
    the public university!!

    So, these opportunities are out there!!

    Lynda Rogerson, Ed.D.
    hxbg65a@prodigy.com
    www.lynco.com