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  • 1.  HR law

    Posted 02-04-2009 15:08
    Any interesting ideas for teaching HR law?

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    Rebecca Portnoy
    Assistant Professor of Management & Operations
    Washington State University, Vancouver
    14204 NE Salmon Creek Ave.
    Vancouver, WA 98686-9600
    Phone: 360-546-9258
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  • 2.  HR law

    Posted 02-04-2009 15:47
    can you be more specific? I have many ideas and I even think most are
    interesting, but I'd like to know what you have in mind

    Rebecca Portnoy wrote:
    > Any interesting ideas for teaching HR law?
    >
    > *****************************************************
    > Rebecca Portnoy
    > Assistant Professor of Management & Operations
    > Washington State University, Vancouver
    > 14204 NE Salmon Creek Ave.
    > Vancouver, WA 98686-9600
    > Phone: 360-546-9258
    > *************************************************
    >


  • 3.  HR law

    Posted 02-04-2009 17:16
    My initial thought is to focus on Title VII, Americans with Disability Act, and issues addressed by EEOC.  Look at cases from an HR perspective and don't make this an employment law course.

    Ted

    On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Rebecca Portnoy <rrp9@u.washington.edu> wrote:
    Any interesting ideas for teaching HR law?

    *****************************************************
    Rebecca Portnoy
    Assistant Professor of Management & Operations
    Washington State University, Vancouver
    14204 NE Salmon Creek Ave.
    Vancouver, WA 98686-9600
    Phone:  360-546-9258
    *************************************************



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  • 4.  HR law

    Posted 02-04-2009 18:18
    I am not an HR person but had to teach three hours on this to undergrads (juniors) as part of integrated business core. 

    One thing I did was make up problem based relatively simple (simple compared to cases) scenarios, had them sit there with the text of a limited universe of laws (summary type of thing for each law since these laws can be dense and long) and had them decide what laws were broken, how they were violated, and what needed to be done instead. 

    First I had them decide alone, then as a group (deciding alone meant more discussion when they were in a group since they all now had an opinion rather than some not bothering to prepare)

    I found they had trouble with the 4/5's rule in terms of deciding if something was discrimination, and the application to just protected group as their generic lay person understanding was more general than the law. 

    We then talked about how good practice went beyond the minimum demanded by the law, why it was important beyond the minimum of legal compliance, etc.

    Carolyn Birmingham
    Assistant Professor, Management

    > Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:08:05 -0500
    > From: rrp9@U.WASHINGTON.EDU
    > Subject: HR law
    > To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    >
    > Any interesting ideas for teaching HR law?
    >
    > *****************************************************
    > Rebecca Portnoy
    > Assistant Professor of Management & Operations
    > Washington State University, Vancouver
    > 14204 NE Salmon Creek Ave.
    > Vancouver, WA 98686-9600
    > Phone: 360-546-9258
    > *************************************************

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  • 5.  HR law

    Posted 02-05-2009 08:19
    Colleagues:
    Two good ideas for teaching HR can be found in the archives of the Organization Management Journal. Take a look at:

    Using Published Arbitration Decisions to Develop Teaching Examples, Cases and Exercises

    Margaret A Lucero

    Organ Manag J 4: 43-51; doi:10.1057/omj.2007.5

     &

    A Strategic Management Learning Laboratory: Integrating the College Classroom and the College Human Resource Management Environment

    Theodore D Peters and Jeffrey S Yanagi

    Organ Manag J 3: 34-53; doi:10.1057/omj.2006.6

     

    These both have innovations and good ideas for implementation by experienced educators and can be found at: www.palgrave-journals.com/omj

     

     

    Regards:

    Steve

    Steven Meisel, PhD
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    La Salle University
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    Subject: Re: HR law

    I am not an HR person but had to teach three hours on this to undergrads (juniors) as part of integrated business core. 

    One thing I did was make up problem based relatively simple (simple compared to cases) scenarios, had them sit there with the text of a limited universe of laws (summary type of thing for each law since these laws can be dense and long) and had them decide what laws were broken, how they were violated, and what needed to be done instead. 

    First I had them decide alone, then as a group (deciding alone meant more discussion when they were in a group since they all now had an opinion rather than some not bothering to prepare)

    I found they had trouble with the 4/5's rule in terms of deciding if something was discrimination, and the application to just protected group as their generic lay person understanding was more general than the law. 

    We then talked about how good practice went beyond the minimum demanded by the law, why it was important beyond the minimum of legal compliance, etc.

    Carolyn Birmingham
    Assistant Professor, Management

    > Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:08:05 -0500
    > From: rrp9@U.WASHINGTON.EDU
    > Subject: HR law
    > To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    >
    > Any interesting ideas for teaching HR law?
    >
    > *****************************************************
    > Rebecca Portnoy
    > Assistant Professor of Management & Operations
    > Washington State University, Vancouver
    > 14204 NE Salmon Creek Ave.
    > Vancouver, WA 98686-9600
    > Phone: 360-546-9258
    > *************************************************

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  • 6.  HR law

    Posted 02-05-2009 10:20
    I'm pretty sure Stella Nkomo's book of HR exercises has a collection of 10-15 "situations". Students then decide if there is an applicable law and whether the situation represents legal or illegal action. If I remember correctly, the instructor's manual describes the law or real case behind each situation.

    I'll second the emotion that good management is usually not the minimum legal requirements.

    Tom

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    Subject: Re: HR law


    I am not an HR person but had to teach three hours on this to undergrads (juniors) as part of integrated business core.

    One thing I did was make up problem based relatively simple (simple compared to cases) scenarios, had them sit there with the text of a limited universe of laws (summary type of thing for each law since these laws can be dense and long) and had them decide what laws were broken, how they were violated, and what needed to be done instead.

    First I had them decide alone, then as a group (deciding alone meant more discussion when they were in a group since they all now had an opinion rather than some not bothering to prepare)


    I found they had trouble with the 4/5's rule in terms of deciding if something was discrimination, and the application to just protected group as their generic lay person understanding was more general than the law.

    We then talked about how good practice went beyond the minimum demanded by the law, why it was important beyond the minimum of legal compliance, etc.

    Carolyn Birmingham
    Assistant Professor, Management

    > Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:08:05 -0500
    > From: rrp9@U.WASHINGTON.EDU
    > Subject: HR law
    > To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    >
    > Any interesting ideas for teaching HR law?
    >
    > *****************************************************
    > Rebecca Portnoy
    > Assistant Professor of Management & Operations
    > Washington State University, Vancouver
    > 14204 NE Salmon Creek Ave.
    > Vancouver, WA 98686-9600
    > Phone: 360-546-9258
    > *************************************************


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