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  • 1.  MCI

    Posted 06-22-1998 02:30
    On Mon, 22 Jun 1998 Phil Rutherford wrote Re: What are the key MANAGERIAL
    Competencies?
    >Simon,
    >I would suggest that to cut out a great deal of hard work you check out the
    >Management Charter Initiative (MCI) competency standards. [...]

    Phil,
    How were these validated?
    Did the majority of good managers exhibit these competencies and the
    majority of bad managers lack these competencies?
    How were the good and bad managers discerned in the first place?

    Jack Ring
    Innovation Management
    sendmail: jring@amug.org


  • 2.  MCI

    Posted 06-30-1998 05:24
    Jack,
    Sorry I haven't replied to your query before this but time and tide etc.

    Re the MCI competency (skills) standards, the following is my understanding
    (having been part of the team who piloted them) of how the standards were
    developed and implemented:

    >How were these validated?

    The competencies were first identified from a functional analysis approach
    - ie, the skills and knowledge of those people agreed as being 'good'
    managers were analysed for the competencies they displayed and, more
    importantly, how these competencies were actually applied on the job. These
    were firstly validated across a wide range of industries and then piloted
    in a small number of industry groups. Feedback from this went to enhancing
    the way the competencies were captured and this was then piloted in a
    larger group. Again, feedback was used to enhance the product and another
    pilot was carried out - this time across a wide range of industries. Once
    again the feedback was used to enhance the standards. (There were a couple
    more steps in there but I've forgotten exactly how they went - suffice it
    to say they were centred on trialling the competencies in a variety of
    workplaces.)

    Once MCI were happy with the product they took the competencies to what was
    then called the National Council for Vocational Qualification (loosely the
    equivalent of the National Skills Standards Board) where they were endorsed
    for their content, industry input and support, format and workplace
    usability. This endorsement was for a number of years during which time it
    was expected that MCI would continue to pilot the standards in the
    workplace and report back on industry takeup and use.

    This report enabled MCI to once more enhance the competencies because of
    feedback received throughout the UK and overseas on both their
    applicability and usability. This enhancement continues to this day.

    These processes are far more rigorous than those found in any other country
    (how many people are still using the Hay/McBer competencies - after all
    these years?) and are indicative of the rigour that goes into the
    competency-based processes in defining and implementing workbased
    competency standards.

    >Did the majority of good managers exhibit these competencies and the
    >majority of bad managers lack these competencies?

    Not at all. There is no comparison between 'good' managers and 'bad' ones.
    The competencies are based on what is considered to be 'best practice' in
    management (or whatever vocational field the standards are being written
    for) without pointing the finger at those who are considered 'good' and
    those considered 'bad'.

    I guess the simple explanation for this is centred on the question of who
    is it that would determine who is 'good' and who is 'bad'? And what would
    they base their determination on? And, besides, what would give them the
    right to make such a determination? Only film critics have the right to
    make such determinations about something they have no ability in.

    >How were the good and bad managers discerned in the first place?
    >

    Exactly. There are schools of thought that still consider it profitable to
    measure high level performance by looking at what is considered to be low
    level performance. It seems that in doing so they figure that if you
    identify what is bad, and do the opposite, then you must be doing good. But
    this is nonsense. In management people can do everything very well and
    still end up with failures. It isn't always their fault - just like it
    isn't the surgeon's fault if the patient dies even when the surgeon does
    everything right.


    Hope that helps.

    Regards

    Phil Rutherford


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