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Hi,

Is it just me or is there a deliberate leaning of this newsgroup towards
academia and advertising? I haven't kept any stats on this but it appears to
me that less than 10% of anything received lately on this newsgroup has been
actual discussion or individual points of view. The remainder has been calls
for papers or advertisements for upcoming seminars - both of which, giventhe
global presence on this site, are of little interest to what may be the
majority of subscribers.

Phil Rutherford
robnphil@ozemail.com.au

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Hi Phil,
Good to hear from mg-ed-dv favorite participant in New South Wales!
To address your question: I am not trying to exclude corporate management
development experts nor consultants from discussing management education and
management development or related management topics. I am trying to cut
down on everyone's advertising services we're not interested though!
As for the an academic bent, this list has always been affiliated with the
Academy of Management's Management Education and Development Division. As
the list editor and owner, I try to keep mg-ed-dv vital by popping in things
that I think are of interest. Many participants are professors. Indeed,
you yourself are a university instructor--albeit with a 400 kilometer
commute to Armidale from Bungendore! Many such academics do like
information like tables of contents and calls for papers.
In the <<tears well up in my eyes>> the old days, we had many raucous
discussions of management ed/dev topics....and some less related to that
focus. I still strongly encourage and invite people (even those midway
between Canberra and the east coast!) to start or join such discussions.
Mg-Ed-Dv used to be wide open. Then we had the incident with autosponder at
Lake Michigan College which sent us 50 "no longer there" messages. Then a
virus was posted. Etc. I decided to take over sifting through and paring
down postings to protect people. Really, I never meant it to discourage
people from having discussions. Far from it! "If you're not part of the
solution you're part of the problem!"
By the way, I like your website!
http://www.competency-au.com
Cybercollegially,
Charles Wankel
mg-ed-dv list editor
wankelc@stjohns.edu

As a recipient of mg-ed-dv - and being selfish I dont mind getting the
postings which are a call for papers - it gives me an idea of the type of
topics being delivered at conferences and there may come a day when I will
be able to answer the call

regards

Myrna Komar
the trainer from down under
myk@tac.com.au

First up I must thank Charles and the many others who answered privately for
their thoughts. I'm actually in the throes of updating my web site (after my
site host lost it for nearly a year) so stay tuned.

Secondly, I hope it isn't thought that I was complaining about the MG-ED-DV
newsgroup. Far from it. I was simply concerned enough to ask the question
rather than unsubscribe without anyone having a chance to address the
issues.

I too enjoy seeing what is going on, even if most of it is only going on in
the US, and will glance through each post before deciding whether to delete
it or not. There are many seminars and calls for papers I would love to get
involved in but time and space don't allow that to happen - a common problem
I've no doubt. I am, in fact, off to the AGSM conference next week,
something I first heard about on this newsgroup even though it is just up
the road from me here in rainy Bungendore. So all the advertising isn't
lost. I guess I'm just wondering where the discussion is.

Regards to all

Phil Rutherford
robnphil@ozemail.com.au
http://www.competency-au.com

Merely a suggestion, but perhaps we could attempt to follow certain
conventions in the addressing of mail to the list, if that would help.
Some mail readers permit the 'sorting' of mail according to several
options, including: address of sender; subject; words in the body of
the message; etc.

Thus, mail that had the phrase "call for participation", as an example,
in the body of the message, or on the subject line, could be sent to a
folder of the recipient's choice. For that matter, it could be sent to
the Trash folder, to simplify the deletion process.

The options available to a recipient will vary according to the options
of the mail reader. Again, merely a suggestion.

George S. Cole gscole@ark.ship.edu
Shippensburg University
gscole@ark.ship.edu

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RESPONSE FROM MG-ED-DV EDITOR:
George,
Since I am moderating/editing mg-ed-dv I try to put CALL, TOC, etc. in the
subject field.
Cybercollegially,
Charles Wankel
wankelc@stjohns.edu

I was a moderator of the old bbs' for a decade before we got the lovely
internet of today.

One thing I learned is that if you want topics of interest brought up and
discussed, bring the topic up. Post a question or an idea. Open the flood
gates of response. It isn't up to Charles to do that. It is up to the
subscribers who want to hear things of interest to them.

As a Zen master once taught me: True brilliance lies not in having the
answers. Anyone can find an answer. It lies in having the questions,
because without them there can be no answers.

So, bring a topic up.

But, Charles, please keep the Calls and TOCs coming ... they are also useful
to me.

Thanks

Conna Condon
gandolf@cyberverse.com

Colleagues:

The half-life of scientific knowledge is between 1.5 to 7 years--depends on
the discipline. The "average" time is about 2.5 to 3 years. In other words,
one half of what we learn, teach, or do is either modified or totally redone
every 2 to 3 years. To remain current and on the cutting edge, one must
learn
how to learn and the best place to do it is at meetings. IMHO, this
information is necessary.

Most sincerely yours,
Bob Cornesky
TQM1BOB@AOL.COM

Hello
I do find the broad postings of TOC and conferences a real service. I have
been able to get some information or access I otherwise would have been
unaware of.

Thanks

Guido Krickx
gkrickx@bay.csuhayward.edu