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  • 1.  Grammar Gremlins

    Posted 12-05-1998 12:47
    A client has asked me incorporate information about common grammar/writing
    problems and examples in a web based sales management training course that
    I'm developing.

    Since I ain't too sure that I knows lots about the subject meself.
    I'm hoping that there is some "Top 10 Mistakes and How to Avoid Them"
    information that you could point me to, or send me. Of course, I'll cite
    the source of any material that I use and/or embed a link to any appropriate
    resources.

    I apologize for cross-posting and greatly appreciate all help.

    Thank you for helping me with this project.
    Christie Mason
    clmason@essex1.com


  • 2.  Grammar Gremlins

    Posted 12-05-1998 16:44
    Christie - While I did not find exactly what you wanted, it is, I think
    pretty close.

    See http://kbidesign.cnchost.com//writing.shtml
    11 Rules of Grammar - concise writer's guide to the most frequently violated
    rules of grammar, with dynamic links to more detailed online references.

    I hope this helps and please consider hiring a philosopher from
    http://philosophical-services.com for your next consultant.

    Regards, Kenn

    Dr. Kenneth F.T. Cust
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  • 3.  Grammar Gremlins

    Posted 12-06-1998 01:41
    "Secrets of Successful Writing: Writing Improvement Tips" by DeWitt Scott 1989.
    Small booklet that came with Grammatik grammar-checker software.

    My own Tip #1: USE a grammar checker, such as included with MS-Word.
    #2 It seems annoying at first, but keep using it for a few weeks and your
    grammar will definitely improve and the error rate will drop.
    #3 Use the spell checker too!
    #4-10 Keep using a both checkers for the rest of your life.

    --
    Prof. John L. Naman naman+@pitt.edu


  • 4.  Grammar Gremlins

    Posted 12-06-1998 14:57
    on Sat, 5 Dec 1998 Christie Mason wrote RE: Grammar Gremlins
    >
    >A client has asked me incorporate information about common grammar/writing
    >problems and examples in a web based sales management training course that
    >I'm developing.
    >
    >Since I ain't too sure that I knows lots about the subject meself.
    >I'm hoping that there is some "Top 10 Mistakes and How to Avoid Them"
    >information that you could point me to, or send me.

    Christie,
    Rule #1 is: Never end a sentence with a preposition.
    That is something up with which we will not put.
    Like saying "Why did you bring that book I didn't want to be read to out of
    up here for?" ;-)

    Jack Ring
    32712 N. 70th St.
    Snottsdale, AZ 85262-7143
    sendmail: jring@amug.org
    602-488-4615
    Cell) 602.418.8784
    F)602-488-4616


  • 5.  Grammar Gremlins

    Posted 12-07-1998 09:21
    Christie asked about the "top 10 mistakes [in grammar and writing] and
    how to avoid them."

    The biggest mistake we've seen in our thirty years teaching employees to

    improve their business writing is not a grammar error. It's failing to
    have a clear objective.

    There are many others:

    * Writing what you want to say, not what the reader needs to hear
    * Hiding the objective somewhere other than in the first sentence
    * Failing to ask for what you want
    * Writing to many people as a group, rather than to each reader
    individually
    * Beginning every sentence with "I," or making the focus yourself,
    whether you use "I" or not
    * Using hackneyed expressions to open, close, or communicate every
    thought you have--"Per your request," "Feel free to call if you have any

    questions," etc.
    * Failing to proofread carefully
    * Failing to read your writing aloud

    Grammar, spelling, and punctuation are superficial elements that writers

    can easily correct. They just need to know what errors they're making.
    Spell checkers, grammar checkers are helpful, but certainly not to be
    relied on. Most of the time my PC's spell checker is wrong in guessing
    what word I wanted. Active voice is preferred, but not always.
    Personally, I've always liked the rule that "good writers can break any
    rule"!

    In terms of the other advise I've seen on this topic. Winston Churchill

    was famous for responding to a woman who told him that he ended a
    sentence with a preposition, "That's the sort of pedantry, up with which

    I will not put." "Put up with" is really a phrasal verb--I guess we
    should rely on statesman for statesmanship, and writing experts for
    writing advice. Nonetheless, it is okay to end a sentence with a
    preposition, as in, "It's confusing to know what your client was
    thinking about."

    I'd tell your client who wants this list to offer a business writing
    training course, buy its employees "The Elements of Style," or stop
    writing to its clients! Sorry, but a list of 10 items won't help your
    client to avoid problems in writing, won't make the writing more
    effective, and is in effect telling its employees, "writing isn't really

    that important." Maybe it feels this way. Maybe clear, direct
    communication isn't that important to your client. Most likely it is.

    My commercial:

    We offer an online business writing course that provides instruction and

    five, personal critiques of each participant's job-related writing.
    Many of our clients use this program because it doesn't require their
    employees to leave work to learn. Linking to our website (the URL's
    below) might prompt some of your client's representatives to do more
    about developing this fundamental skill.

    Cordially,

    Doug



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