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  • 1.  Combining Principles of Management and OB -- where's OD?

    Posted 01-26-1999 18:06
    Kim Boal wrote:
    >
    > Dear Bob, I have taught at universities which have a principles course
    > followed by either an OB course or both an OB and OT course, universities
    > that dropped the principles and use OB as the required course. In some
    > cases the follow up courses are required in some cases they were management
    > electives. The big issue I have experienced is that some students complain
    > of too much overlap. This is especially true when all the courses are
    > simply lecture based with multiple choice exams. Currently, as Department
    > Chair, I am teaching our giant (450 & 200 students respectfully-yes its an
    > over load, but nobody will be able to complain when they have to do it)
    > principles course using Jones, George, and Hill. If one looks at it, or
    > say Robbins and Coulter, as examples of current priciples texts, it becomes
    > apparent that the move is to include the kitchen sink from from strategy to
    > OB to OT to HRM to Ethics.

    I'm curious. Why aren't graduate schools of business including more OD
    courses in their programs? For example, one rarely finds an MBA program
    that has an OD course. MBA programs often have some nature of OT and OB
    courses, but not much about OD, i.e., diagnosing organizational issues,
    conducting interventions, assessing interventions, etc. If, for a
    moment, we compare the "organism" of an organization to the "organism"
    of the body:
    1. studying organizational theory (OT) is comparable to studying
    anatomy
    2. studying organizational behavior (OB) is comparable to studying
    physiology
    2. studying organization development (OD) is comparable to studying
    medicine.

    Wouldn't a smattering of organizational "medicine" be very helpful to
    managers?


  • 2.  Combining Principles of Management and OB -- where's OD?

    Posted 01-27-1999 09:42
    Carter McNamara raises and important questioon especially given the
    increasing number of our students who go into consulting as change agents.
    Here at Tech, we embed some of these issues in our basic MBA management
    course. We spend a considerable amount of time talking about high
    performance management systems. In fact HPM is one of our 150 hour
    management concentrations for undergraduate students as well as one of our
    concentrations for graduate students. In addition, we require a course in
    Executive Skills, and offer electives OD, Leadership, Negotiation and
    Conflict Resolution among others.

    I know there are many fine universities which also offer electives in OD,
    and some. like Case Western have developed outstanding reputations in
    Executive Education. Kim Cameron, their new Dean, is one of the leading
    scholars in studying organizational effectiveness, and I could name a
    plethora of outstanding scholars around the US who have made significant
    strides in helping us understand and manage change. I know there will be a
    review of the literature on change published in the Journal of Management
    this summer for those who are interested.

    In additon there are some outstanding programs in the US that team Academic
    with Practitioners. Let me mention two. Here at Texas Tech, Barry Macy,
    the Director of the Texas Center for Productivity and Work Life, runs a
    managers workshop. This consists of 4 different groups from 91 Fortune
    companies that visit and discuss innovative work sites around the US.
    Usually, this consists of 3 nights and two days at a plant hosted by the
    local folks. The participants spend a full day learning about the
    innovations talking place at the plant, and a half day providing positive
    and negative feedback to the employees about what they have seen and learned.

    Also, the Center for Effective Organizations run by Ed Lawler at University
    of Southern California enters into partnerships with companies about change
    programs, as well as sponsoring numerous programs open to the practitioners.

    The program at USC is considerably more expensive than the program at Texas
    Tech but is open to anyone. You must be a member of the Managers Workshop
    to attend the meetings at various field sites, and are expected. at some
    point in time to host a visit.

    I assume that the many members of this Web site are affiliated with
    organizations that sponsor programs on managing change as well as providing
    individualized consultation on managing change. As I implied in an earlier
    post, I assume practitioners like Rober Keidel have as much, or more to
    teach organizations about managing change than academics like myself. (The
    difference between a priest-Bob- and a layman-me). I study change from the
    outside, he lives change from the inside.

    Regards to all you run the good race, and fight the good fight.

    Kim Boal

    >Kim Boal wrote:
    >>
    >> Dear Bob, I have taught at universities which have a principles course
    >> followed by either an OB course or both an OB and OT course, universities
    >> that dropped the principles and use OB as the required course. In some
    >> cases the follow up courses are required in some cases they were management
    >> electives. The big issue I have experienced is that some students complain
    >> of too much overlap. This is especially true when all the courses are
    >> simply lecture based with multiple choice exams. Currently, as Department
    >> Chair, I am teaching our giant (450 & 200 students respectfully-yes its an
    >> over load, but nobody will be able to complain when they have to do it)
    >> principles course using Jones, George, and Hill. If one looks at it, or
    >> say Robbins and Coulter, as examples of current priciples texts, it becomes
    >> apparent that the move is to include the kitchen sink from from strategy to
    >> OB to OT to HRM to Ethics.
    >
    >I'm curious. Why aren't graduate schools of business including more OD
    >courses in their programs? For example, one rarely finds an MBA program
    >that has an OD course. MBA programs often have some nature of OT and OB
    >courses, but not much about OD, i.e., diagnosing organizational issues,
    >conducting interventions, assessing interventions, etc. If, for a
    >moment, we compare the "organism" of an organization to the "organism"
    >of the body:
    >1. studying organizational theory (OT) is comparable to studying
    >anatomy
    >2. studying organizational behavior (OB) is comparable to studying
    >physiology
    >2. studying organization development (OD) is comparable to studying
    >medicine.
    >
    >Wouldn't a smattering of organizational "medicine" be very helpful to
    >managers?
    >
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    Kim Boal
    College of Business Administration
    Texas Tech University
    Lubbock, TX 79409
    (806) 742-2150
    KimBoal@ttu.edu