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  • 1.  Repetitions and habit

    Posted 02-10-1999 22:04
    When I played high school tennis, my coach told me that it took 10,000 perfect
    practice serves (and volleys, and backhands, and lobs, etc.) before one had a
    reliable match pressure serve. The world's greatest free-throw shooter
    practices 1000 free throws every day. He suggests that all basketball players
    need to practice 500 free throws a day if they want to reliably make the
    critical 2 at the end of the game.

    Obviously, the complexity of the task is a factor, but would you want your heart
    surgeon to have only completed 21 surgeries before she did yours? Or how about
    your tax preparer?

    Practice doesn't make perfect....(lots of) perfect practice makes perfect.

    Rhonda K. Reger
    Management & Organization Department
    Robert H. Smith College of Business
    University of Maryland
    3337 Van Munching Hall
    College Park, MD 20742-1815
    phone: 301-405-2167
    fax: 301-314-8787
    e-mail: rreger@rhsmith.umd.edu


  • 2.  Repetitions and habit

    Posted 02-11-1999 09:33
    Dear Colleagues, Rhonda Reger's comment, as well as previous commentaries
    points out the amount of practice and effort one must put into any endeavor
    to achieve mastery. Where I depart from some is that I tell my students
    that "practice maks permanent, but not necessarily perfect." Lots of us
    have been practicing "bad" habits for many years. So much so, that it is
    now hard to become better at certain tasks because the "bad" habits are so
    well engrained.

    The importance of coaches, trainers, teachers early on is that they can
    help us avoid learning bad habits, by providing better models for us to
    practice as well as corrective feedback as we inch our way to mastery.

    In class, when I am dealing with students who may not be putting forth the
    effort I think is required, I often ask if anyone is currently involved in
    competitive athletics. When I find someone, I ask how many hours a week
    they devote to their sport, and for how many years they have been involved
    in their sport. Usually, it will be between 10-20 hours. Then, I ask the
    class, if it takes 10-20 hours per week for X number of years to become a
    good competitive athlete, how many hours a week for how many years will it
    take for them to become a world class manager. Sometimes they get my
    point, and stop complaining about the amount of work they have to do in my
    class.

    Regards, Kim Boal


    At 10:04 PM 2/10/99 -0500, you wrote:
    >When I played high school tennis, my coach told me that it took 10,000
    perfect
    >practice serves (and volleys, and backhands, and lobs, etc.) before one had a
    >reliable match pressure serve. The world's greatest free-throw shooter
    >practices 1000 free throws every day. He suggests that all basketball
    players
    >need to practice 500 free throws a day if they want to reliably make the
    >critical 2 at the end of the game.
    >
    >Obviously, the complexity of the task is a factor, but would you want your
    heart
    >surgeon to have only completed 21 surgeries before she did yours? Or how
    about
    >your tax preparer?
    >
    >Practice doesn't make perfect....(lots of) perfect practice makes perfect.
    >
    >Rhonda K. Reger
    >Management & Organization Department
    >Robert H. Smith College of Business
    >University of Maryland
    >3337 Van Munching Hall
    >College Park, MD 20742-1815
    >phone: 301-405-2167
    >fax: 301-314-8787
    >e-mail: rreger@rhsmith.umd.edu
    >
    --------------------------------
    Kim Boal
    College of Business Administration
    Texas Tech University
    Lubbock, TX 79409
    (806) 742-2150
    KimBoal@ttu.edu


  • 3.  Repetitions and habit

    Posted 02-11-1999 10:35
    I agree wholeheartedly with Prof. Boal's comments. I see the same
    problem in my work with CPAs, to whom I teach occasional courses in
    business valuation for the American Institute of CPAs. My profession is
    so hung up on efficiency that it's forgotten the truth of Kim's comments
    about it being difficult "to become better at certain tasks because the
    'bad' habits are so well-engrained." I also see it w/consulting clients
    in companies that have been in business for long periods. This is the
    old effectiveness vs. efficiency question.

    If I'm not mistaken, many years ago Peter Drucker (I think it was he,
    but I welcome corrections) gave us a superb delineation between the two:

    Efficiency is doing things right, effectiveness is doing the right
    thing.

    Too many times, especially in today's hypercompetitive world, people are
    doing the wrong thing very, very well, indeed. Efficiency is also
    easier to achieve than effectiveness because it's non-threatening.

    Until it's too late, and change runs over efficiency like a steamroller.

    Best regards,

    Warren Miller

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  • 4.  Repetitions and habit

    Posted 02-11-1999 16:54
    Kim,

    I very much enjoyed this post. As always, your posts are pithy and
    eloquent (as in eloquent models).

    Thank you for sharing your views on this. It has helped put
    perspective on some issues I am tackly right now.

    My compliments and best wishes for future success.

    Ed
    Drive On!

    >>> Kim Boal <odkbb@TTACS.TTU.EDU> 02/11 9:32 AM >>>
    Dear Colleagues, Rhonda Reger's comment, as well as previous
    commentaries
    points out the amount of practice and effort one must put into any
    endeavor
    to achieve mastery. Where I depart from some is that I tell my
    students
    that "practice maks permanent, but not necessarily perfect." Lots of
    us
    have been practicing "bad" habits for many years. So much so, that it
    is
    now hard to become better at certain tasks because the "bad" habits are
    so
    well engrained.

    The importance of coaches, trainers, teachers early on is that they
    can
    help us avoid learning bad habits, by providing better models for us
    to
    practice as well as corrective feedback as we inch our way to mastery.

    In class, when I am dealing with students who may not be putting forth
    the
    effort I think is required, I often ask if anyone is currently involved
    in
    competitive athletics. When I find someone, I ask how many hours a
    week
    they devote to their sport, and for how many years they have been
    involved
    in their sport. Usually, it will be between 10-20 hours. Then, I ask
    the
    class, if it takes 10-20 hours per week for X number of years to become
    a
    good competitive athlete, how many hours a week for how many years will
    it
    take for them to become a world class manager. Sometimes they get my
    point, and stop complaining about the amount of work they have to do in
    my
    class.

    Regards, Kim Boal


    At 10:04 PM 2/10/99 -0500, you wrote:
    >When I played high school tennis, my coach told me that it took
    10,000
    perfect
    >practice serves (and volleys, and backhands, and lobs, etc.) before
    one had a
    >reliable match pressure serve. The world's greatest free-throw
    shooter
    >practices 1000 free throws every day. He suggests that all
    basketball
    players
    >need to practice 500 free throws a day if they want to reliably make
    the
    >critical 2 at the end of the game.
    >
    >Obviously, the complexity of the task is a factor, but would you want
    your
    heart
    >surgeon to have only completed 21 surgeries before she did yours? Or
    how
    about
    >your tax preparer?
    >
    >Practice doesn't make perfect....(lots of) perfect practice makes
    perfect.
    >
    >Rhonda K. Reger
    >Management & Organization Department
    >Robert H. Smith College of Business
    >University of Maryland
    >3337 Van Munching Hall
    >College Park, MD 20742-1815
    >phone: 301-405-2167
    >fax: 301-314-8787
    >e-mail: rreger@rhsmith.umd.edu
    >
    --------------------------------
    Kim Boal
    College of Business Administration
    Texas Tech University
    Lubbock, TX 79409
    (806) 742-2150
    KimBoal@ttu.edu