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  • 1.  critical academic work and relevance

    Posted 03-15-1999 12:14
    Hugh Willmott, Warren Miller, Linda Perriton, John Naman and others
    have contributed recently to this thread of discussion. I had hoped,
    given the broad range of backgrounds and interests of those on this
    listserv, that at least some effective dialogue and learning would
    be possible. It seems to me that at the very heart or center of many
    issues related to management education/development is our difficulty in
    interacting when we confront paradigmatic, epistemological or ontological
    differences. Linda wrote, "It seems by the recent postings in this thread
    that a good, old fashioned paradigm war has broken out. Wars of attrition
    are seldom educational past the basics. Is there a better direction we can
    turn this discussion in without losing the focus on the contribution of
    critical work to management education?"

    Perhaps I interpret Linda's comment differently than John did ["And I also
    agree with Linda that we should end this digression and return to
    discussing more useful issues in management education, training, and
    development."] Rather than dismiss these differences or rely largely on
    war and assault metaphors as Warren suggests ["As a colleague who also
    participates on
    occasion in these list discussions wrote me, "The fight for rationality
    will be long and hard, like the Cold War. Dig in."], are we and this
    medium mature enough to engage in a dialogue or even in an informed debate
    on the intellectual and pragmatic returns from critical theory and
    poststructural paradigms (for example)? Too often an important issue is
    raised, we get
    a few comments (some of which seem quick or "tossout" reactions that upset
    others) and these lists move on another issue with often "surface-level"
    discussion. As a medium for management learning, is this the "best" that
    we (as consultants, teachers and professionals) can do? Or are we really in
    some postmodern world where we don't care for much other than playful
    little diversions and quick skirmishes with the larger and more profound
    questions surrounding our professions or careers. On this list
    we have articulate individuals (such as Willmott and Boje) who have long
    written about paradigmatic challenges and have taken strong and
    controversial positions. We also have many others here in academic or
    professional careers who oppose (or would oppose) such views. Can this
    medium begin to engage improved learning on important issues (and draw
    together better theory and practice) or is it a form of "wasteland" or a
    "teaser" in which largely disconnected thinking/comments occasionally
    draw our interest -- only to disappoint us in their nuturance or fruition.
    No, we won't solve the great issues of the day in this or other modes of
    communication, but where should we at least be engaging these issues in
    some seriousness and depth? It doesn't even seem to occur much through
    published academic or scholarly work. Our work lives and other
    responsibilities often give us less time to read, and we largely read those
    publications that appeal to our existing interests or assumptions.
    And most organizations don't seem to encourage or allow much time for
    exploring and examining paradigmatic or epistemological differences.
    Perhaps if critical academic work has any relevance to management
    education/ development it comes in raising questions and concerns for
    professionals
    (such as I've raised) and continuing to pursue ways to explore these
    issues.

    Steve Payne
    Dept. of Management
    Georgia College & State University


  • 2.  critical academic work and relevance

    Posted 03-16-1999 10:45
    I'd like to bring my contribution on the topic of critical academic
    thinking applyed to teaching to a group of Italian master students.

    I presented to the students the way management fashions get diffused and
    how they are used by managers for their personal power aims and supported
    by consultants, practitioners and professors for personal reasons. I stress
    the fact that, as a tool, management concepts can be used in many ways,
    both participative and manipulative, but that their use can never be value
    free, as organizational change implies negotiating different interests. My
    framework is the following: Kieser, Alfred (1997): Rethoric and Myth in
    Management Fashion. In: Organization Vol. 4 no. 1 pp. 49-74.

    Students get both excited and nervous to get in contact with a different
    view of things. Some of them use my arguments as a means to attack other
    colleagues teaching after me, accusing them to present ideology as truth,
    other defend the validity of those "fashions", which they have learnt as
    part of their program and do not want to see it "devalued", other remain
    more realistic and see the topic in its complexity: we can never act value
    free but we have to act.

    Some colleagues are starting to question my approach, while other support it.

    Did you have similar experiences in your school?
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  • 3.  critical academic work and relevance

    Posted 03-16-1999 11:31
    Guiseppe -

    This is typical, but unfortunate, in many academic circles. We should be
    attempting to find truth as best as we can, not attacking one another.
    Before I became an academic, I spent 25 years in the real world (some
    colleagues are unhappy about those words), and naively figured that in the
    academic world there would be greater agreement on important issues. Hah!

    But, if you are not yet tenured, I'd take a careful look at who is in
    opposition, and temper your approaches until you've reached that goal. I
    do recognize that the system at your university and in Italy generally may
    differ from ours; yet I would guess that there is some kind of equivalent.

    The problem is, of course, that such restraint often serves to stifle new
    approaches; and that many of us lose our zeal and fire long before we
    reach that point at which we judge it safe to offer opinions contrary to
    the received paradigms.

    Not sure this helps any, but it my help understand what is going on and to
    offer ideas for survival.

    Tim Edlund, Morgan State University, Baltimore, MD USA

    On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, Giuseppe Delmestri wrote: [in part]
    >
    > Some colleagues are starting to question my approach, while other support it.
    >
    > Did you have similar experiences in your school?
    >


  • 4.  Critical Academic work and Relevance

    Posted 03-16-1999 11:43
    Hugh Willmott wrote:
    >There is a substantial body of empirically based critical work conducted
    and published in the UK and >elsewhere (e.g. Australia and New Zealand),
    believe me!

    I believe. As an elsewhere interested in feminism and education I am
    particularly proud of the fact that there are a good number of papers (and
    a number of good papers) written about reflexive teaching from Australasia.
    And many of them are showing the rest of the field a clean pair of heels in
    their willingness to take balanced, problematical ownership of their
    critical/radical beliefs and start talking about what this means to their
    teaching practice. I'm thinking here of writers such as Erica McWilliam and
    Alison Jones, and those who incorporate feminist post-structuralism into
    policy debates like Jill Blackmore. Writers such as McWilliam represent
    the first generation of graduates coming out of humanities programmes well
    versed in post-modernism and the expectation that they will be teaching or
    managing in a post-modern way. The demographics are coming! And there just
    isn't anything much there to guide them as to how that is, or might be,
    done. And it is also the feminist writers such as Ellsworth who are
    publishing accounts of their experiments in radical teaching and willing to
    reflect critically on them. As Keijo has indicated, those who are aware of
    their status as 'other' have been poaching from the theoretical diversity
    of the social sciences in which to build a modified teaching practice.
    Building a modified critical/radical management teaching process and
    content seems to me work that this generation of crits and rads could
    usefully leave as a legacy for the next. They'd hate it of course and pick
    it to pieces but at least we'd have a dialogue.

    Linda