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  • 1.  Where do professors get educational discounts on software

    Posted 08-21-2001 09:43
    I have found that you can get immense educational discounts on things like
    Macromedia Dreamweaver at Creation Engine.
    http://www.creationengine.com/
    Creation Engine, LLC
    348 East Middlefield Road, Mountain View, CA 94043
    Phone 800.431.8713 Fax 650.934.3234

    Cyberregards,
    Charles Wankel
    St. John's University, New York City
    wankelc@stjohns.edu


  • 2.  Where do professors get educational discounts on software

    Posted 08-21-2001 10:04
    I just spoke with the self-described "only Christine" at Macromedia and she
    says that Macromedia gives educational discounts on its products when you
    buy directly from them, too. (Her number is 800-457-1774 x726). I guess
    I've been foolish in just buying software without (1) checking firms like
    Creation Engine that specialize in offering immense educational discounts
    and (2) asking software firms about their educational discounts. I have yet
    to compare the various discounts. (Now I am figuring out which upgrades to
    last year's Macromedia purchases from Creation Engine are free from
    Macromedia and if there are discounts on the upgrades that aren't free. One
    thing I've found is the information in Macromedia's recorded messages seems
    to differ unfavorably with what Christine has to report on this. Maybe the
    terms for upgrades for academics are different from those for Joe Blow).
    Yikes,
    Charles Wankel
    mg-ed-dv listmaster
    wankelc@stjohns.edu

    -----Original Message-----

    I have found that you can get immense educational discounts on things like
    Macromedia Dreamweaver at Creation Engine.
    http://www.creationengine.com/
    Creation Engine, LLC
    348 East Middlefield Road, Mountain View, CA 94043
    Phone 800.431.8713 Fax 650.934.3234

    Cyberregards,
    Charles Wankel
    St. John's University, New York City
    wankelc@stjohns.edu


  • 3.  Where do professors get educational discounts on software

    Posted 08-22-2001 10:38
    From: Fornaciari, Dr. Charles [mailto:cfornaci@fgcu.edu]

    Charlie and all,

    Perhaps the best place to start is with your campus bookstore---they usually
    have a selection of the basic academic software: Adobe, Microsoft,
    Macromedia, and Symantec products are typically the most popular. Many other
    online or mail order retailers also sell academic software, but they
    typically don't advertise it. As a result, with a little bit of work you can
    do some comparison shopping on academic pricing as well, but the price
    spread is typically very small, but be careful of shipping cost
    differentials! You also want to be careful of two things.

    First, make sure that the software is fully functional. A few companies will
    sell academic software that is feature limited compared to its full price
    siblings, but luckily, that practice has died down quite a bit over the past
    4-5 years. Some products will still identify themselves as educational
    versions in their splash screens upon installation (Macromedia and Adobe
    products come to mind), but this typcially does nothing to the functionality
    of the product.

    Second, you want to be careful about pricing in general, especially when it
    comes to upgrading from a previous version of the software (almost all
    academic software is upgradeable to the new version). Some academic products
    are actually more expensive, or have the same prices as their commercial
    brethern. This is due to the level of the discount the software publisher
    gives to the reseller. For example, academic upgrades of Microsoft Windows
    are almost always the same price, or a little higher priced than upgrades to
    Windows at a retail outlet (whether physical or Web-based). This is because
    retailers almost always discount these products as much as possible
    (sometimes to the point of being a loss leader) to draw customers into the
    store whereas the academic price is basically fixed (non-pejorative sense of
    the word). The opposite applies to the Microsoft Office Suite. It's almost
    always less expensive to buy a new academic version of Office than it is to
    upgrade from your previous edition. Adobe is somewaht schizophrenic (sp?) in
    their pricing. Upgrading to Illustrator 9.0 costs about $139.00 from a
    previous edition whereas the academic price of a new Illustrator 9.0 is
    about $90. Photoshop on the other hand is about $190 to upgrade from a
    previous edition and its academic price for a new edition is also around
    $200.

    Finally, make sure you read the licensing terms very closely. Some companies
    insist that you can only use the academically priced software as long as
    you're an academic. Others limit the number of times you can purchase the
    same academic product within a year, while others place restrictions on
    upgrading academic software. Others only care that you're an academic when
    you buy the product. A few (EndNote and ReferenceManager come to mind) will
    only allow the sale of the product to students.

    In general, you can get a lot of _great deals_ with academic software, but
    always caveat emptor.

    Have a good one,

    Charles

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  • 4.  Where do professors get educational discounts on software

    Posted 08-22-2001 17:35
    Charles Fornaciari's comments are certainly insightful.

    CF notes:
    "make sure that the [academic version] software is fully functional. A few
    companies will sell academic software that is feature limited compared to
    its full price siblings, but luckily, that practice has died down quite a
    bit over the past 4-5 years. Some products will still identify themselves as
    educational versions in their splash screens upon installation (Macromedia
    and Adobe products come to mind), but this typically does nothing to the
    functionality of the product."

    Christine at Macromedia explained that the only difference between the
    academic versions of macromedia products and the commercial versions is that
    the academic versions are not allowed to be used for commercial
    (money-making) undertakings by the license agreement.

    "Second, you want to be careful about pricing in general, especially when it
    comes to upgrading..."

    I upgraded several of my Macromedia products today directly from Macromedia
    (by phone). For one, the commercial upgrade price was $399 and the academic
    price for the same thing was $99.

    Cybercollegially,
    Charles Wankel
    mg-ed-dv listmaster
    wankelc@stjohns.edu