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  • 1.  The Changing Shape of Education

    Posted 05-02-1999 07:37
    I posed the message below to the HRNET list in response to a theme running
    through several postings there. It occurs to me that lists members on
    mg-ed-dv might have an interest in it, too.

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    James Morrissey cites a Boston Globe article about Lotus Development CEO
    Jeffrey Papows who has reportedly embellished his resume and asks why an
    obviously competent person would do such a thing. John Sullivan points out
    that anyone can work in HR -- no degree required. Anne Marie Harmony
    observes that a four-year college degree, no matter the field, might be
    quickly outdated and, in any event, constitutes only a small portion of a
    working career.

    Well, a college degree, whatever its educational, social and personal
    benefits, is mainly a ticket of admission when it comes to the workplace.
    Most degrees are undergraduate degrees. A very small portion of the
    general population goes on to obtain an advanced degree (Masters or PhD).
    There are some who argue that, currently, a college degree is required
    because a high school diploma no longer signifies anything about education
    level (e.g., literacy and numeracy). Some are beginning to argue that the
    college degree is becoming similarly meaningless. Yet, the earnings
    difference between college grads and those without degrees is substantial.
    Thus, a college degree, especially an advanced degree, is likely to remain
    at least economically attractive for quite some time.

    What is changing, however, is the shape of education. Picture, if you
    will, one of those long skinny balloons that are used to fashion balloon
    animals for children -- you know, the kind that get twisted and wrapped
    into bunnies, puppies, giraffes and so on. To me, education currently
    looks like a long skinny balloon with a big bulge at one end. In other
    words, education is typically jammed into the front end of our lives --
    kindergarten (K), elementary school (1-6), junior high (7-8) and high
    school (9-12), followed by four years of undergraduate schooling. This all
    happens by the time the "balloon" is in his or her early twenties. Unless
    graduate school followed, and barring unforeseen misfortune, the graduate
    went on to spend 40-odd years in the workplace.

    We've known for a long time that learning is a life-long process.
    Education is beginning to acknowledge this. Instead of a big bulge or dose
    of education at the front end of our lives, education is beginning to
    spread out. "Periods of education at spaced and probably irregular
    intervals" is one way of describing it. That long skinny balloon is
    beginning to show signs of bulges throughout its entire length. The
    precursors for this changing shape of education have been around quite a
    while. The community colleges and correspondence courses/schools have been
    with us for a long time. "Distance learning" is a more recent instance and
    it is growing rapidly, some might say "mushrooming." The shape of
    education is changing.

    In this kind of environment, what will matter most is not so much where you
    went to school or what degree you obtained a few years ago or many years
    ago, but the recency and relevance of your educational experiences (formal
    and informal) -- and the competency displayed in your performance. In case
    it hadn't occurred to you, being a lifelong learner means being a lifelong
    student. "Distance learning," which is a high-tech version of the good old
    correspondence course seems to be one of the more obvious ways of making
    this a practical undertaking. Short training courses will still be viable
    options, too, but extended times away from the workplace will be a luxury
    that only the wealthy can afford or a benefit that companies will provide
    to a chosen few (something like IBM's old co-op program).

    Were I in HR (which I haven't been for many years now -- but I like to stay
    in touch), managing employee education would be high on my priority list.
    Naturally, so would training and development. My recruiting emphasis would
    shift a bit, too; I'd be looking for learners -- of all ages and
    backgrounds -- for, in the last analysis, if an organization's future
    hinges on its people, then in turbulent, fast-paced times like these, it is
    the ability of those people to learn on which everything hangs.

    Just some Saturday morning thoughts...
    Regards,

    Fred Nickols
    Distance Consulting "Assistance at A Distance"
    http://home.att.net/~nickols/distance.htm
    nickols@worldnet.att.net
    (609) 490-0095


  • 2.  The Changing Shape of Education

    Posted 05-02-1999 14:31
    Fred Nickols <nickols@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
    (Hi Fred)

    >Most degrees are undergraduate degrees.<

    I understand that 27% of the US workforce has 4 year college degrees
    and only 9% have advanced degrees.

    >There are some who argue that, currently,
    a college degree is required because a
    high school diploma no longer signifies
    anything about education level (e.g.,
    literacy and numeracy).<

    I suggest that some hiring managers believe that more education means
    better job fit--it doesn't--and who gets the blame for college graduates
    who fail to meet expectations? The graduate, not the hiring manager.

    >Some are beginning to argue that the college
    degree is becoming similarly meaningless.<

    Only 20% if the jobs actually require a 4 year college degree so I hope
    that some employers are rethinking their college degree requirements.

    >Yet, the earnings difference between college
    grads and those without degrees is substantial.<

    As long as the better paying jobs are needlessly reserved for college
    graduates the problem will continue.

    Bob


  • 3.  The Changing Shape of Education

    Posted 05-02-1999 18:46
    Not just H.S. or Uni...

    Let's not forget there are two year technical
    degrees and two year for university transfer
    programs. Our graduates have close to a 100% job
    placement in community colleges.

    BTW have taught Pre K-12 and 13-16+ to Dr. level
    students... guess who runs circles around the
    Ph.D.s? our CC technical students! <grin>

    I teach the bright technical types such as
    chemical, electrical, mechanical, industrial
    engineers to be... some go on to the university some
    go directly into jobs. Placement for them is 100%!

    So there are alternatives to just a high school
    diploma or a university degree.

    --
    P.A. Gantt, Computer Science Technology Instructor
    Electronic Media Design and Support
    http://user.icx.net/~pgantt/
    [the Internet] could remain what it ought to be:
    just a public instrument. There ought to be efforts --
    not just talk but real efforts -- to ensure Internet
    access, not just for rich people but for everyone.
    ~~ Noam Chomsky, MIT ~~