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  • 1.  Another fine mess!

    Posted 01-24-2007 08:14

    I think the below article excerpt might spark discussion in some classes.

     

     

    Sara Isaac, "Solange Dao wishes she were neater," <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Orlando</st1:place></st1:city> Sentinel, January 24, 2007.  From:

     http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-messy2407jan24,0,3784976.story

     

    Her desk at her small engineering firm in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Orlando</st1:city></st1:place> has so many piles of paper on it that she has turned an adjacent chair into an additional "filing" area.

     

    "This morning I had an interview come in, and he walked in and I kind of turned around and looked at my desk and I thought, 'He must think I'm crazy,' " Dao said.

     

    Not only is Dao not crazy -- she's exhibiting good business sense, according to <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placename w:st="on">Columbia</st1:placename> <st1:placetype w:st="on">University</st1:placetype></st1:place> management professor Eric Abrahamson.

     

    Yes, it's January -- National Get Organized Month and International Business Resolutions Month. But in their new book, A Perfect Mess, Abrahamson and co-author David H. Freedman say most people -- and businesses -- shouldn't waste time resolving to be more neat, efficient and orderly.

     

    The authors have a better solution to mess:

     

    "Don't feel guilty about it," Abrahamson said.

     

    Forget cleanliness is next to godliness. If you take the emotion out of the messiness equation, much of what looks like mess -- like Dao's desk -- actually is quite orderly if you take a closer look ....

     

    More importantly, organization has costs, in terms of time and resources. And the unrecognized benefits from mess include inventiveness, flexibility and even efficiency, they say.

     

    A Perfect Mess carries that argument to the home as well. The price of order may be time spent nagging the kids or money spent on a housekeeping service. Meanwhile, a refrigerator cluttered with sports schedules and party invitations can be more efficient than a filing system where obligations may quickly be not only out of sight, but out of mind.

     

    For many small businesses, messy offices, messy schedules and messy management systems can keep the company nimble and focused on important priorities such as customers and growth, Abrahamson said.

     

    "People say, well, order is better," he said. "But how much is it costing you to get that order, and is it paying off?"

     

    Busy entrepreneurs rightly spend their limited time where needed, he added.

     

    "They're growing. They're producing. They're not sitting around at their desks organizing."

     

    Abrahamson and Freedman's arguments in favor of mess include a myriad of examples that touch on everything from aircraft assembly to autism.

     

    Penicillin, for example, was discovered because mold landed on an open petri dish in a messy lab. A Nobel Prize in medicine grew from a scientist drawing a connection between two unrelated documents on his stupendously messy desk.

     

    Abrahamson knows that he is swimming upstream. Our culture highly values order, and it will take more than one book to change that.

     

    But a survey in A Perfect Mess found that two-thirds of people reported being somewhat to very embarrassed about their messiness. That means <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region> is a nation of messy people who are obsessed with the idea of being neat.

     

    Abrahamson emphasized that the book is promoting moderate mess, and that the acceptable level of mess depends on individual personalities and business situations (you wouldn't want a disorganized brain surgeon, for example).

     

    As for Dao, she confesses that her system works for her. She knows where everything is on her desk, and she doesn't have to get up and hunt through files for documents when clients call.

     

    Besides, between running Dao Consultants and juggling a frenzied slate of volunteer commitments -- from serving on Orlando's Board of Zoning Adjustment to holding down the vice presidency of the Tau Beta Pi national engineering honor society -- Dao just doesn't have time to neatly label and file the deluge of documents that constantly pours across her desk.

     

    Really, who does?

     

    "Every time I walk into someone's office that's almost too neat, with no papers on the desk and the pencils all lined up, I think, 'When do you work?' " Dao said.



  • 2.  Another fine mess!

    Posted 01-24-2007 12:49
    Hi all,
     
    I must say I agree. During the time I worked in the commercial world, and now I'm in academia, I've always held the view that a degree of untidiness actually helped me function more effectively. My productivity tends to drop off when trying to adhere to the clean desk policies so beloved of some colleagues. How much of this is down to individual personality and how much is generalisable however is I would suggest a moot point.
     
    Sadly  my wife certainly doesn't subscribe to my "filling at your feet" paradigm.....
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Management Education and Development Discussion [mailto:MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Wankel
    Sent: 24 January 2007 13:14
    To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Another fine mess!

    I think the below article excerpt might spark discussion in some classes.

     

     

    Sara Isaac, "Solange Dao wishes she were neater," <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Orlando</st1:place></st1:city> Sentinel, January 24, 2007.  From:

     http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-messy2407jan24,0,3784976.story

     

    Her desk at her small engineering firm in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Orlando</st1:city></st1:place> has so many piles of paper on it that she has turned an adjacent chair into an additional "filing" area.

     

    "This morning I had an interview come in, and he walked in and I kind of turned around and looked at my desk and I thought, 'He must think I'm crazy,' " Dao said.

     

    Not only is Dao not crazy -- she's exhibiting good business sense, according to <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placename w:st="on">Columbia</st1:placename> <st1:placetype w:st="on">University</st1:placetype></st1:place> management professor Eric Abrahamson.

     

    Yes, it's January -- National Get Organized Month and International Business Resolutions Month. But in their new book, A Perfect Mess, Abrahamson and co-author David H. Freedman say most people -- and businesses -- shouldn't waste time resolving to be more neat, efficient and orderly.

     

    The authors have a better solution to mess:

     

    "Don't feel guilty about it," Abrahamson said.

     

    Forget cleanliness is next to godliness. If you take the emotion out of the messiness equation, much of what looks like mess -- like Dao's desk -- actually is quite orderly if you take a closer look ....

     

    More importantly, organization has costs, in terms of time and resources. And the unrecognized benefits from mess include inventiveness, flexibility and even efficiency, they say.

     

    A Perfect Mess carries that argument to the home as well. The price of order may be time spent nagging the kids or money spent on a housekeeping service. Meanwhile, a refrigerator cluttered with sports schedules and party invitations can be more efficient than a filing system where obligations may quickly be not only out of sight, but out of mind.

     

    For many small businesses, messy offices, messy schedules and messy management systems can keep the company nimble and focused on important priorities such as customers and growth, Abrahamson said.

     

    "People say, well, order is better," he said. "But how much is it costing you to get that order, and is it paying off?"

     

    Busy entrepreneurs rightly spend their limited time where needed, he added.

     

    "They're growing. They're producing. They're not sitting around at their desks organizing."

     

    Abrahamson and Freedman's arguments in favor of mess include a myriad of examples that touch on everything from aircraft assembly to autism.

     

    Penicillin, for example, was discovered because mold landed on an open petri dish in a messy lab. A Nobel Prize in medicine grew from a scientist drawing a connection between two unrelated documents on his stupendously messy desk.

     

    Abrahamson knows that he is swimming upstream. Our culture highly values order, and it will take more than one book to change that.

     

    But a survey in A Perfect Mess found that two-thirds of people reported being somewhat to very embarrassed about their messiness. That means <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region> is a nation of messy people who are obsessed with the idea of being neat.

     

    Abrahamson emphasized that the book is promoting moderate mess, and that the acceptable level of mess depends on individual personalities and business situations (you wouldn't want a disorganized brain surgeon, for example).

     

    As for Dao, she confesses that her system works for her. She knows where everything is on her desk, and she doesn't have to get up and hunt through files for documents when clients call.

     

    Besides, between running Dao Consultants and juggling a frenzied slate of volunteer commitments -- from serving on Orlando's Board of Zoning Adjustment to holding down the vice presidency of the Tau Beta Pi national engineering honor society -- Dao just doesn't have time to neatly label and file the deluge of documents that constantly pours across her desk.

     

    Really, who does?

     

    "Every time I walk into someone's office that's almost too neat, with no papers on the desk and the pencils all lined up, I think, 'When do you work?' " Dao said.



  • 3.  Another fine mess!

    Posted 01-24-2007 14:55
    All --
     
    Well it is not a moot point when someone like yourself, who is "laterally" organized, is forced by an organization that is linearally organized and requires so-called neatness in order to be productive. Then the stress will start to add up and the productivity will start to wane. I believe that this is particularly true in the UK -- though there is no academic proof to substantiate this -- just the intuitive "feel" of another strong laterally organized person who visits occasionally. And  truth to tell, the US is certainly just as guilty.
     
    Cheers,
    Rusty Rae
     
     
     
    -------------- Original message --------------
    From: George Downie <GDownie@BOURNEMOUTH.AC.UK>
    Hi all,
     
    I must say I agree. During the time I worked in the commercial world, and now I'm in academia, I've always held the view that a degree of untidiness actually helped me function more effectively. My productivity tends to drop off when trying to adhere to the clean desk policies so beloved of some colleagues. How much of this is down to individual personality and how much is generalisable however is I would suggest a moot point.
     
    Sadly  my wife certainly doesn't subscribe to my "filling at your feet" paradigm.....
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Management Education and Development Discussion [mailto:MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Wankel
    Sent: 24 January 2007 13:14
    To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Another fine mess!

    I think the below article excerpt might spark discussion in some classes.

     

     

    Sara Isaac, ?Solange Dao wishes she were neater,? <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Orlando</st1:place></st1:city> Sentinel, January 24, 2007.  From:

     http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-messy2407jan24,0,3784976.story

     

    Her desk at her small engineering firm in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Orlando</st1:city></st1:place> has so many piles of paper on it that she has turned an adjacent chair into an additional "filing" area.

     

    "This morning I had an interview come in, and he walked in and I kind of turned around and looked at my desk and I thought, 'He must think I'm crazy,' " Dao said.

     

    Not only is Dao not crazy -- she's exhibiting good business sense, according to <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placename w:st="on">Columbia</st1:placename> <st1:placetype w:st="on">University</st1:placetype></st1:place> management professor Eric Abrahamson.

     

    Yes, it's January -- National Get Organized Month and International Business Resolutions Month. But in their new book, A Perfect Mess, Abrahamson and co-author David H. Freedman say most people -- and businesses -- shouldn't waste time resolving to be more neat, efficient and orderly.

     

    The authors have a better solution to mess:

     

    "Don't feel guilty about it," Abrahamson said.

     

    Forget cleanliness is next to godliness. If you take the emotion out of the messiness equation, much of what looks like mess -- like Dao's desk -- actually is quite orderly if you take a closer look ?.

     

    More importantly, organization has costs, in terms of time and resources. And the unrecognized benefits from mess include inventiveness, flexibility and even efficiency, they say.

     

    A Perfect Mess carries that argument to the home as well. The price of order may be time spent nagging the kids or money spent on a housekeeping service. Meanwhile, a refrigerator cluttered with sports schedules and party invitations can be more efficient than a filing system where obligations may quickly be not only out of sight, but out of mind.

     

    For many small businesses, messy offices, messy schedules and messy management systems can keep the company nimble and focused on important priorities such as customers and growth, Abrahamson said.

     

    "People say, well, order is better," he said. "But how much is it costing you to get that order, and is it paying off?"

     

    Busy entrepreneurs rightly spend their limited time where needed, he added.

     

    "They're growing. They're producing. They're not sitting around at their desks organizing."

     

    Abrahamson and Freedman's arguments in favor of mess include a myriad of examples that touch on everything from aircraft assembly to autism.

     

    Penicillin, for example, was discovered because mold landed on an open petri dish in a messy lab. A Nobel Prize in medicine grew from a scientist drawing a connection between two unrelated documents on his stupendously messy desk.

     

    Abrahamson knows that he is swimming upstream. Our culture highly values order, and it will take more than one book to change that.

     

    But a survey in A Perfect Mess found that two-thirds of people reported being somewhat to very embarrassed about their messiness. That means <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region> is a nation of messy people who are obsessed with the idea of being neat.

     

    Abrahamson emphasized that the book is promoting moderate mess, and that the acceptable level of mess depends on individual personalities and business situations (you wouldn't want a disorganized brain surgeon, for example).

     

    As for Dao, she confesses that her system works for her. She knows where everything is on her desk, and she doesn't have to get up and hunt through files for documents when clients call.

     

    Besides, between running Dao Consultants and juggling a frenzied slate of volunteer commitments -- from serving on Orlando's Board of Zoning Adjustment to holding down the vice presidency of the Tau Beta Pi national engineering honor society -- Dao just doesn't have time to neatly label and file the deluge of documents that constantly pours across her desk.

     

    Really, who does?

     

    "Every time I walk into someone's office that's almost too neat, with no papers on the desk and the pencils all lined up, I think, 'When do you work?' " Dao said.



  • 4.  Another fine mess!

    Posted 01-24-2007 17:12
    If you're one of us "messy" people, and have a graduate student come in your
    office and "clean up" over the weekend without you knowing it, you'll know
    what happened to short term productivity in this office. I now have standing
    orders not to straighten things up.

    But, like George, I haven't been able to convince my wife yet.

    William Sharbrough


    On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:48:33 +0000
    George Downie <GDownie@BOURNEMOUTH.AC.UK> wrote:
    > Hi all,
    >
    > I must say I agree. During the time I worked in the commercial world,
    > and now I'm in academia, I've always held the view that a degree of
    > untidiness actually helped me function more effectively. My productivity
    > tends to drop off when trying to adhere to the clean desk policies so
    > beloved of some colleagues. How much of this is down to individual
    > personality and how much is generalisable however is I would suggest a
    > moot point.
    >
    > Sadly my wife certainly doesn't subscribe to my "filling at your feet"
    > paradigm.....
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Management Education and Development Discussion
    > [mailto:MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Wankel
    > Sent: 24 January 2007 13:14
    > To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    > Subject: Another fine mess!
    >
    >
    >
    > I think the below article excerpt might spark discussion in some
    > classes.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Sara Isaac, "Solange Dao wishes she were neater," Orlando
    > Sentinel, January 24, 2007. From:
    >
    >
    > http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-messy2407jan24,0,3784976.sto
    > ry
    >
    >
    >
    > Her desk at her small engineering firm in Orlando has so many
    > piles of paper on it that she has turned an adjacent chair into an
    > additional "filing" area.
    >
    >
    >
    > "This morning I had an interview come in, and he walked in and I
    > kind of turned around and looked at my desk and I thought, 'He must
    > think I'm crazy,' " Dao said.
    >
    >
    >
    > Not only is Dao not crazy -- she's exhibiting good business
    > sense, according to Columbia University management professor Eric
    > Abrahamson.
    >
    >
    >
    > Yes, it's January -- National Get Organized Month and
    > International Business Resolutions Month. But in their new book, A
    > Perfect Mess, Abrahamson and co-author David H. Freedman say most people
    > -- and businesses -- shouldn't waste time resolving to be more neat,
    > efficient and orderly.
    >
    >
    >
    > The authors have a better solution to mess:
    >
    >
    >
    > "Don't feel guilty about it," Abrahamson said.
    >
    >
    >
    > Forget cleanliness is next to godliness. If you take the emotion
    > out of the messiness equation, much of what looks like mess -- like
    > Dao's desk -- actually is quite orderly if you take a closer look ....
    >
    >
    >
    > More importantly, organization has costs, in terms of time and
    > resources. And the unrecognized benefits from mess include
    > inventiveness, flexibility and even efficiency, they say.
    >
    >
    >
    > A Perfect Mess carries that argument to the home as well. The
    > price of order may be time spent nagging the kids or money spent on a
    > housekeeping service. Meanwhile, a refrigerator cluttered with sports
    > schedules and party invitations can be more efficient than a filing
    > system where obligations may quickly be not only out of sight, but out
    > of mind.
    >
    >
    >
    > For many small businesses, messy offices, messy schedules and
    > messy management systems can keep the company nimble and focused on
    > important priorities such as customers and growth, Abrahamson said.
    >
    >
    >
    > "People say, well, order is better," he said. "But how much is
    > it costing you to get that order, and is it paying off?"
    >
    >
    >
    > Busy entrepreneurs rightly spend their limited time where
    > needed, he added.
    >
    >
    >
    > "They're growing. They're producing. They're not sitting around
    > at their desks organizing."
    >
    >
    >
    > Abrahamson and Freedman's arguments in favor of mess include a
    > myriad of examples that touch on everything from aircraft assembly to
    > autism.
    >
    >
    >
    > Penicillin, for example, was discovered because mold landed on
    > an open petri dish in a messy lab. A Nobel Prize in medicine grew from a
    > scientist drawing a connection between two unrelated documents on his
    > stupendously messy desk.
    >
    >
    >
    > Abrahamson knows that he is swimming upstream. Our culture
    > highly values order, and it will take more than one book to change that.
    >
    >
    >
    > But a survey in A Perfect Mess found that two-thirds of people
    > reported being somewhat to very embarrassed about their messiness. That
    > means America is a nation of messy people who are obsessed with the idea
    > of being neat.
    >
    >
    >
    > Abrahamson emphasized that the book is promoting moderate mess,
    > and that the acceptable level of mess depends on individual
    > personalities and business situations (you wouldn't want a disorganized
    > brain surgeon, for example).
    >
    >
    >
    > As for Dao, she confesses that her system works for her. She
    > knows where everything is on her desk, and she doesn't have to get up
    > and hunt through files for documents when clients call.
    >
    >
    >
    > Besides, between running Dao Consultants and juggling a frenzied
    > slate of volunteer commitments -- from serving on Orlando's Board of
    > Zoning Adjustment to holding down the vice presidency of the Tau Beta Pi
    > national engineering honor society -- Dao just doesn't have time to
    > neatly label and file the deluge of documents that constantly pours
    > across her desk.
    >
    >
    >
    > Really, who does?
    >
    >
    >
    > "Every time I walk into someone's office that's almost too neat,
    > with no papers on the desk and the pencils all lined up, I think, 'When
    > do you work?' " Dao said.
    >



    William C. Sharbrough, Ph.D.
    Associate Professor and Management & Marketing Division Head
    School of Business Administration
    The Citadel, Charleston, SC
    william.sharbrough@citadel.edu O: 843.953.5164 F:843.953.6764


  • 5.  Another fine mess!

    Posted 01-25-2007 06:45
    Of course working with mess may go weel beyond the confines of our
    offices. I am a great fan of Law's book "After method: Mess in social
    science research" It is a good read as well as genuinely illuminating
    about method. There is a google preview at
    http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=E20X7N0nBfQC&oi=fnd&pg=RA1-PA
    1&sig=Ihhpo6c-3MH0fdI5xbBaja-UCw4&dq=law+theory+messes#PPP1,M1

    Mark Fenton-O'Creevy
    Open University


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Management Education and Development Discussion
    [mailto:MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of William Sharbrough
    Sent: 24 January 2007 22:12
    To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: Another fine mess!

    If you're one of us "messy" people, and have a graduate student come in
    your office and "clean up" over the weekend without you knowing it,
    you'll know what happened to short term productivity in this office. I
    now have standing orders not to straighten things up.

    But, like George, I haven't been able to convince my wife yet.

    William Sharbrough


    On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:48:33 +0000
    George Downie <GDownie@BOURNEMOUTH.AC.UK> wrote:
    > Hi all,
    >
    > I must say I agree. During the time I worked in the commercial world,
    > and now I'm in academia, I've always held the view that a degree of
    > untidiness actually helped me function more effectively. My
    > productivity tends to drop off when trying to adhere to the clean desk

    > policies so beloved of some colleagues. How much of this is down to
    > individual personality and how much is generalisable however is I
    > would suggest a moot point.
    >
    > Sadly my wife certainly doesn't subscribe to my "filling at your
    feet"
    > paradigm.....
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Management Education and Development Discussion
    > [mailto:MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Wankel
    > Sent: 24 January 2007 13:14
    > To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    > Subject: Another fine mess!
    >
    >
    >
    > I think the below article excerpt might spark discussion in some

    > classes.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Sara Isaac, "Solange Dao wishes she were neater," Orlando
    Sentinel,
    > January 24, 2007. From:
    >
    >
    > http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-messy2407jan24,0,3784976.s
    > to
    > ry
    >
    >
    >
    > Her desk at her small engineering firm in Orlando has so many
    piles
    > of paper on it that she has turned an adjacent chair into an
    > additional "filing" area.
    >
    >
    >
    > "This morning I had an interview come in, and he walked in and I
    kind
    > of turned around and looked at my desk and I thought, 'He must think
    > I'm crazy,' " Dao said.
    >
    >
    >
    > Not only is Dao not crazy -- she's exhibiting good business
    sense,
    > according to Columbia University management professor Eric Abrahamson.
    >
    >
    >
    > Yes, it's January -- National Get Organized Month and
    International
    > Business Resolutions Month. But in their new book, A Perfect Mess,
    > Abrahamson and co-author David H. Freedman say most people
    > -- and businesses -- shouldn't waste time resolving to be more neat,
    > efficient and orderly.
    >
    >
    >
    > The authors have a better solution to mess:
    >
    >
    >
    > "Don't feel guilty about it," Abrahamson said.
    >
    >
    >
    > Forget cleanliness is next to godliness. If you take the emotion
    out
    > of the messiness equation, much of what looks like mess -- like Dao's
    > desk -- actually is quite orderly if you take a closer look ....
    >
    >
    >
    > More importantly, organization has costs, in terms of time and
    > resources. And the unrecognized benefits from mess include
    > inventiveness, flexibility and even efficiency, they say.
    >
    >
    >
    > A Perfect Mess carries that argument to the home as well. The
    price
    > of order may be time spent nagging the kids or money spent on a
    > housekeeping service. Meanwhile, a refrigerator cluttered with sports
    > schedules and party invitations can be more efficient than a filing
    > system where obligations may quickly be not only out of sight, but out

    > of mind.
    >
    >
    >
    > For many small businesses, messy offices, messy schedules and
    messy
    > management systems can keep the company nimble and focused on
    > important priorities such as customers and growth, Abrahamson said.
    >
    >
    >
    > "People say, well, order is better," he said. "But how much is
    it
    > costing you to get that order, and is it paying off?"
    >
    >
    >
    > Busy entrepreneurs rightly spend their limited time where
    needed, he
    > added.
    >
    >
    >
    > "They're growing. They're producing. They're not sitting around
    at
    > their desks organizing."
    >
    >
    >
    > Abrahamson and Freedman's arguments in favor of mess include a
    myriad
    > of examples that touch on everything from aircraft assembly to autism.
    >
    >
    >
    > Penicillin, for example, was discovered because mold landed on
    an
    > open petri dish in a messy lab. A Nobel Prize in medicine grew from a
    > scientist drawing a connection between two unrelated documents on his
    > stupendously messy desk.
    >
    >
    >
    > Abrahamson knows that he is swimming upstream. Our culture
    highly
    > values order, and it will take more than one book to change that.
    >
    >
    >
    > But a survey in A Perfect Mess found that two-thirds of people
    > reported being somewhat to very embarrassed about their messiness.
    > That means America is a nation of messy people who are obsessed with
    > the idea of being neat.
    >
    >
    >
    > Abrahamson emphasized that the book is promoting moderate mess,
    and
    > that the acceptable level of mess depends on individual personalities
    > and business situations (you wouldn't want a disorganized brain
    > surgeon, for example).
    >
    >
    >
    > As for Dao, she confesses that her system works for her. She
    knows
    > where everything is on her desk, and she doesn't have to get up and
    > hunt through files for documents when clients call.
    >
    >
    >
    > Besides, between running Dao Consultants and juggling a frenzied

    > slate of volunteer commitments -- from serving on Orlando's Board of
    > Zoning Adjustment to holding down the vice presidency of the Tau Beta
    > Pi national engineering honor society -- Dao just doesn't have time to

    > neatly label and file the deluge of documents that constantly pours
    > across her desk.
    >
    >
    >
    > Really, who does?
    >
    >
    >
    > "Every time I walk into someone's office that's almost too neat,
    with
    > no papers on the desk and the pencils all lined up, I think, 'When do
    > you work?' " Dao said.
    >



    William C. Sharbrough, Ph.D.
    Associate Professor and Management & Marketing Division Head School of
    Business Administration The Citadel, Charleston, SC
    william.sharbrough@citadel.edu O: 843.953.5164 F:843.953.6764


  • 6.  Another fine mess!

    Posted 01-25-2007 09:08
    I have loved reading this discussion as up until now I felt guilty about
    my messy desk. Now I am feeling so positive about it and look at it with
    pride. I could not agree more with Mark and Schon about the 'messy low
    lands' being the place where all the rich data is. To William, George,
    Mark and all the other messy people you have made my day.
    Norah
    Ps problem I now have is that my email files are also a little bit messy


    Professor Norah Jones
    Head of The Centre for Excellence in Learning and Teaching
    University of Glamorgan
    CF37 1DL
    Tel 01443 654094
    email njones2@glam.ac.uk
    http://learning.weblog.glam.ac.uk
    http://celt.glam.ac.uk




    -----Original Message-----
    From: Management Education and Development Discussion
    [mailto:MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of M.P.Fenton-OCreevy
    Sent: 25 January 2007 11:45
    To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: Another fine mess!

    Of course working with mess may go weel beyond the confines of our
    offices. I am a great fan of Law's book "After method: Mess in social
    science research" It is a good read as well as genuinely illuminating
    about method. There is a google preview at
    http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=E20X7N0nBfQC&oi=fnd&pg=RA1-PA
    1&sig=Ihhpo6c-3MH0fdI5xbBaja-UCw4&dq=law+theory+messes#PPP1,M1

    Mark Fenton-O'Creevy
    Open University


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Management Education and Development Discussion
    [mailto:MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of William Sharbrough
    Sent: 24 January 2007 22:12
    To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: Another fine mess!

    If you're one of us "messy" people, and have a graduate student come in
    your office and "clean up" over the weekend without you knowing it,
    you'll know what happened to short term productivity in this office. I
    now have standing orders not to straighten things up.

    But, like George, I haven't been able to convince my wife yet.

    William Sharbrough


    On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:48:33 +0000
    George Downie <GDownie@BOURNEMOUTH.AC.UK> wrote:
    > Hi all,
    >
    > I must say I agree. During the time I worked in the commercial world,
    > and now I'm in academia, I've always held the view that a degree of
    > untidiness actually helped me function more effectively. My
    > productivity tends to drop off when trying to adhere to the clean desk

    > policies so beloved of some colleagues. How much of this is down to
    > individual personality and how much is generalisable however is I
    > would suggest a moot point.
    >
    > Sadly my wife certainly doesn't subscribe to my "filling at your
    feet"
    > paradigm.....
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Management Education and Development Discussion
    > [mailto:MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Wankel
    > Sent: 24 January 2007 13:14
    > To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    > Subject: Another fine mess!
    >
    >
    >
    > I think the below article excerpt might spark discussion in some

    > classes.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Sara Isaac, "Solange Dao wishes she were neater," Orlando
    Sentinel,
    > January 24, 2007. From:
    >
    >
    > http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-messy2407jan24,0,3784976.s
    > to
    > ry
    >
    >
    >
    > Her desk at her small engineering firm in Orlando has so many
    piles
    > of paper on it that she has turned an adjacent chair into an
    > additional "filing" area.
    >
    >
    >
    > "This morning I had an interview come in, and he walked in and I
    kind
    > of turned around and looked at my desk and I thought, 'He must think
    > I'm crazy,' " Dao said.
    >
    >
    >
    > Not only is Dao not crazy -- she's exhibiting good business
    sense,
    > according to Columbia University management professor Eric Abrahamson.
    >
    >
    >
    > Yes, it's January -- National Get Organized Month and
    International
    > Business Resolutions Month. But in their new book, A Perfect Mess,
    > Abrahamson and co-author David H. Freedman say most people
    > -- and businesses -- shouldn't waste time resolving to be more neat,
    > efficient and orderly.
    >
    >
    >
    > The authors have a better solution to mess:
    >
    >
    >
    > "Don't feel guilty about it," Abrahamson said.
    >
    >
    >
    > Forget cleanliness is next to godliness. If you take the emotion
    out
    > of the messiness equation, much of what looks like mess -- like Dao's
    > desk -- actually is quite orderly if you take a closer look ....
    >
    >
    >
    > More importantly, organization has costs, in terms of time and
    > resources. And the unrecognized benefits from mess include
    > inventiveness, flexibility and even efficiency, they say.
    >
    >
    >
    > A Perfect Mess carries that argument to the home as well. The
    price
    > of order may be time spent nagging the kids or money spent on a
    > housekeeping service. Meanwhile, a refrigerator cluttered with sports
    > schedules and party invitations can be more efficient than a filing
    > system where obligations may quickly be not only out of sight, but out

    > of mind.
    >
    >
    >
    > For many small businesses, messy offices, messy schedules and
    messy
    > management systems can keep the company nimble and focused on
    > important priorities such as customers and growth, Abrahamson said.
    >
    >
    >
    > "People say, well, order is better," he said. "But how much is
    it
    > costing you to get that order, and is it paying off?"
    >
    >
    >
    > Busy entrepreneurs rightly spend their limited time where
    needed, he
    > added.
    >
    >
    >
    > "They're growing. They're producing. They're not sitting around
    at
    > their desks organizing."
    >
    >
    >
    > Abrahamson and Freedman's arguments in favor of mess include a
    myriad
    > of examples that touch on everything from aircraft assembly to autism.
    >
    >
    >
    > Penicillin, for example, was discovered because mold landed on
    an
    > open petri dish in a messy lab. A Nobel Prize in medicine grew from a
    > scientist drawing a connection between two unrelated documents on his
    > stupendously messy desk.
    >
    >
    >
    > Abrahamson knows that he is swimming upstream. Our culture
    highly
    > values order, and it will take more than one book to change that.
    >
    >
    >
    > But a survey in A Perfect Mess found that two-thirds of people
    > reported being somewhat to very embarrassed about their messiness.
    > That means America is a nation of messy people who are obsessed with
    > the idea of being neat.
    >
    >
    >
    > Abrahamson emphasized that the book is promoting moderate mess,
    and
    > that the acceptable level of mess depends on individual personalities
    > and business situations (you wouldn't want a disorganized brain
    > surgeon, for example).
    >
    >
    >
    > As for Dao, she confesses that her system works for her. She
    knows
    > where everything is on her desk, and she doesn't have to get up and
    > hunt through files for documents when clients call.
    >
    >
    >
    > Besides, between running Dao Consultants and juggling a frenzied

    > slate of volunteer commitments -- from serving on Orlando's Board of
    > Zoning Adjustment to holding down the vice presidency of the Tau Beta
    > Pi national engineering honor society -- Dao just doesn't have time to

    > neatly label and file the deluge of documents that constantly pours
    > across her desk.
    >
    >
    >
    > Really, who does?
    >
    >
    >
    > "Every time I walk into someone's office that's almost too neat,
    with
    > no papers on the desk and the pencils all lined up, I think, 'When do
    > you work?' " Dao said.
    >



    William C. Sharbrough, Ph.D.
    Associate Professor and Management & Marketing Division Head School of
    Business Administration The Citadel, Charleston, SC
    william.sharbrough@citadel.edu O: 843.953.5164 F:843.953.6764