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Greetings,
I intend to use Schumacher's "Small is Beautiful"
in a course on Sustainability next semester. Does anyone
have experience in using it? Can anyone recommend methods
for using it effectively?

Thank you

Bruce

--
Bruce Clemens PhD PE
Room 360 CISAT Tower (A-1)
Mail Stop Code: 4102
College of Integrated Science and Technology
James Madison University
Harrisonburg, VA 22807
office: (540)568-8770
home: (540)289-7755
fax: (540)568-2768
internet: clemenbw@jmu.edu
http://www.isat.jmu.edu/faculty/clemens.htm
Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt.
Dance like nobody's watching. Sing like no-ones listening. (Cathy Mattea
tune written by Leigh or from some '60's prophet and moodified by Prez
Raines, Dolly Sods, 1999)

My experience is with having been taught a course using Schumaker's book.
It is
shortsighted
wrong on a tremendous number of accounts
doesn't understand or account for human nature
fails to maintain the objective science it is supposed to be based on

Small is beautiful is based on the assumption that human endeavours are
essentially futile and doomed. It does not allow for the possibility that
our race and our cultures might produce their way out of environmental
disaster. It preaches a philosophy of defeat and retreat.

He didn't anticipate the places where small actually does work; microloans,
microclimates, and microelectronics. I suggest you teach a course on
sustainability using someone else's work.

Bill McDaniel
McGrew + McDaniel Group, Inc.
Strategic Management Consulting
for New Technologies
e: mcdaniel@mcgrewmcdaniel.com
f: +1 817 268 0667
v: +1 817 268 0670
u: www.mcgrewmcdaniel.com
p: 479 Harwood Rd, Hurst, TX 76054


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From: Management Education and Development Discussion
[mailto:MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU]On Behalf Of Clemens, Bruce W
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 03:50 PM
To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
Subject: Advice on using "Small is Beautiful"


Greetings,
I intend to use Schumacher's "Small is Beautiful"
in a course on Sustainability next semester. Does anyone
have experience in using it? Can anyone recommend methods
for using it effectively?

Thank you

Bruce

--
Bruce Clemens PhD PE
Room 360 CISAT Tower (A-1)
Mail Stop Code: 4102
College of Integrated Science and Technology
James Madison University
Harrisonburg, VA 22807
office: (540)568-8770
home: (540)289-7755
fax: (540)568-2768
internet: clemenbw@jmu.edu
http://www.isat.jmu.edu/faculty/clemens.htm
Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt.
Dance like nobody's watching. Sing like no-ones listening. (Cathy Mattea
tune written by Leigh or from some '60's prophet and moodified by Prez
Raines, Dolly Sods, 1999)

Bill,
Thank you for your fascinating comments! COuld you
please provide me with your course's instructor's name and
contact information? Thank you


CBruce

On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:24:46 -0500 Bill McDaniel
<mcdaniel@MCGREWMCDANIEL.COM> wrote:

> My experience is with having been taught a course using Schumaker's book.
> It is
> shortsighted
> wrong on a tremendous number of accounts
> doesn't understand or account for human nature
> fails to maintain the objective science it is supposed to be based on
>
> Small is beautiful is based on the assumption that human endeavours are
> essentially futile and doomed. It does not allow for the possibility that
> our race and our cultures might produce their way out of environmental
> disaster. It preaches a philosophy of defeat and retreat.
>
> He didn't anticipate the places where small actually does work; microloans,
> microclimates, and microelectronics. I suggest you teach a course on
> sustainability using someone else's work.
>
> Bill McDaniel
> McGrew + McDaniel Group, Inc.
> Strategic Management Consulting
> for New Technologies
> e: mcdaniel@mcgrewmcdaniel.com
> f: +1 817 268 0667
> v: +1 817 268 0670
> u: www.mcgrewmcdaniel.com
> p: 479 Harwood Rd, Hurst, TX 76054
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Management Education and Development Discussion
> [mailto:MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU]On Behalf Of Clemens, Bruce W
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 03:50 PM
> To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
> Subject: Advice on using "Small is Beautiful"
>
>
> Greetings,
> I intend to use Schumacher's "Small is Beautiful"
> in a course on Sustainability next semester. Does anyone
> have experience in using it? Can anyone recommend methods
> for using it effectively?
>
> Thank you
>
> Bruce
>
> --
> Bruce Clemens PhD PE
> Room 360 CISAT Tower (A-1)
> Mail Stop Code: 4102
> College of Integrated Science and Technology
> James Madison University
> Harrisonburg, VA 22807
> office: (540)568-8770
> home: (540)289-7755
> fax: (540)568-2768
> internet: clemenbw@jmu.edu
> http://www.isat.jmu.edu/faculty/clemens.htm
> Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt.
> Dance like nobody's watching. Sing like no-ones listening. (Cathy Mattea
> tune written by Leigh or from some '60's prophet and moodified by Prez
> Raines, Dolly Sods, 1999)

--
Bruce Clemens PhD PE
Room 360 CISAT Tower (A-1)
Mail Stop Code: 4102
College of Integrated Science and Technology
James Madison University
Harrisonburg, VA 22807
office: (540)568-8770
home: (540)289-7755
fax: (540)568-2768
internet: clemenbw@jmu.edu
http://www.isat.jmu.edu/faculty/clemens.htm
Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt.
Dance like nobody's watching. Sing like no-ones listening. (Cathy Mattea
tune written by Leigh or from some '60's prophet and moodified by Prez
Raines, Dolly Sods, 1999)

Bruce,

You might exam its use of Small Is Beautiful by
Rinker at U. Florida:
http://s14.cfaa.ufl.edu/centers/sustainable/CenterActivities/Syllab98.html

Dan Dewey at MIT
http://space.mit.edu/~dd/ECON/ccae_syllabus.html

The following nest the book in wider lists of materials that may be of use
to you:

Grace Ann Rosile of New Mexico State
http://cbae.nmsu.edu/mgt/progs/inteco/EnvBib/EnvMgmtBib.htm

Tom Hopkins at North Carolina State University
http://courses.ncsu.edu/classes/mea430/read.html

Daniel Kammen at Princeton
http://www.wws.princeton.edu/~kammen/571b.syllabus.html

Cybercollegially,
Charlie Wankel
Mg-Ed-Dv listmaster
St. John's University, New York City
wankelc@stjohns.edu


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Bruce Clemens, James Madison University wrote:
I intend to use Schumacher's "Small is Beautiful" in a course on
Sustainability next semester. Does anyone have experience in using it? Can
anyone recommend methods for using it effectively?

Bruce Clements wrote:
> I intend to use Schumacher's "Small is Beautiful"
>in a course on Sustainability next semester. Does anyone
>have experience in using it? Can anyone recommend methods
>for using it effectively?

Bruce:

This book " Small is Beautiful" is one of my favorites. It fits well with
our online course on Corporate Environmental Management.

http://www.esocrates.com/cgi-bin/socrates.cgi?cemeu001

For evaluation purposes you can use:
user name = guest
password = guest

The course uses the ecological sustainability framework for understanding
Management and Strategy issues, pulling diverse materials from the Web You
can easily integrate the book into it. You can get a customizable Web site
to run your own course, into which you can add your syllabus, projects,
assignments, links etc. All this can be done in half a day. The site also
allows you create an "online community" by inviting scholars and managers
and environmental activists to your class chatroom and bulletin board. I
would myself be happy to come to your class "virtually" and chat with
students about Schumacher.
Good luck with the course.

Paul Shrivastava

Paul,
Thank you for your ideas..

Bruce

On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:36:32 -0400 Paul Shrivastava
<socrates@ESOCRATES.COM> wrote:

> Bruce Clements wrote:
> > I intend to use Schumacher's "Small is Beautiful"
> >in a course on Sustainability next semester. Does anyone
> >have experience in using it? Can anyone recommend methods
> >for using it effectively?
>
> Bruce:
>
> This book " Small is Beautiful" is one of my favorites. It fits well with
> our online course on Corporate Environmental Management.
>
> http://www.esocrates.com/cgi-bin/socrates.cgi?cemeu001
>
> For evaluation purposes you can use:
> user name = guest
> password = guest
>
> The course uses the ecological sustainability framework for understanding
> Management and Strategy issues, pulling diverse materials from the Web You
> can easily integrate the book into it. You can get a customizable Web site
> to run your own course, into which you can add your syllabus, projects,
> assignments, links etc. All this can be done in half a day. The site also
> allows you create an "online community" by inviting scholars and managers
> and environmental activists to your class chatroom and bulletin board. I
> would myself be happy to come to your class "virtually" and chat with
> students about Schumacher.
> Good luck with the course.
>
> Paul Shrivastava

--
Bruce Clemens PhD PE
Room 360 CISAT Tower (A-1)
Mail Stop Code: 4102
College of Integrated Science and Technology
James Madison University
Harrisonburg, VA 22807
office: (540)568-8770
home: (540)289-7755
fax: (540)568-2768
internet: clemenbw@jmu.edu
http://www.isat.jmu.edu/faculty/clemens.htm
Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt.
Dance like nobody's watching. Sing like no-ones listening. (Cathy Mattea
tune written by Leigh or from some '60's prophet and moodified by Prez
Raines, Dolly Sods, 1999)

Charlie,
WOW! THank you for your timely and effective
response. I will turn my students on to each of the
courses and sourses. What a great example of
cybecollegiality....

Bruce


On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:12:38 -0400 Charles Wankel
<cxx@BELLATLANTIC.NET> wrote:

> Bruce,
>
> You might exam its use of Small Is Beautiful by
> Rinker at U. Florida:
> http://s14.cfaa.ufl.edu/centers/sustainable/CenterActivities/Syllab98.html
>
> Dan Dewey at MIT
> http://space.mit.edu/~dd/ECON/ccae_syllabus.html
>
> The following nest the book in wider lists of materials that may be of use
> to you:
>
> Grace Ann Rosile of New Mexico State
> http://cbae.nmsu.edu/mgt/progs/inteco/EnvBib/EnvMgmtBib.htm
>
> Tom Hopkins at North Carolina State University
> http://courses.ncsu.edu/classes/mea430/read.html
>
> Daniel Kammen at Princeton
> http://www.wws.princeton.edu/~kammen/571b.syllabus.html
>
> Cybercollegially,
> Charlie Wankel
> Mg-Ed-Dv listmaster
> St. John's University, New York City
> wankelc@stjohns.edu
>
>
> -------------
> Bruce Clemens, James Madison University wrote:
> I intend to use Schumacher's "Small is Beautiful" in a course on
> Sustainability next semester. Does anyone have experience in using it? Can
> anyone recommend methods for using it effectively?

--
Bruce Clemens PhD PE
Room 360 CISAT Tower (A-1)
Mail Stop Code: 4102
College of Integrated Science and Technology
James Madison University
Harrisonburg, VA 22807
office: (540)568-8770
home: (540)289-7755
fax: (540)568-2768
internet: clemenbw@jmu.edu
http://www.isat.jmu.edu/faculty/clemens.htm
Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt.
Dance like nobody's watching. Sing like no-ones listening. (Cathy Mattea
tune written by Leigh or from some '60's prophet and moodified by Prez
Raines, Dolly Sods, 1999)