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  • 1.  off-peopling article - I can send you a copy

    Posted 09-15-2004 17:34
    I can you a full-text pdf copy of the off-peopling article IF YOU COMMIT TO
    POST A COGENT COMMENT ON IT to our mg-ed-dv. Of course send any such
    requests just to me at wankelc@stjohns.edu rather than to the entire
    virtual community.

    Cybercollegially,
    Charles Wankel
    Mg-Ed-Dv List Director wankelc@stjohns.edu


  • 2.  off-peopling article - I can send you a copy

    Posted 09-15-2004 20:13
    Chas, I'd like one, and will comment.
    Romie

    Charles Wankel <wankelc@optonline.net> wrote:
    I can you a full-text pdf copy of the off-peopling article IF YOU COMMIT TO
    POST A COGENT COMMENT ON IT to our mg-ed-dv. Of course send any such
    requests just to me at wankelc@stjohns.edu rather than to the entire
    virtual community.

    Cybercollegially,
    Charles Wankel
    Mg-Ed-Dv List Director wankelc@stjohns.edu


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  • 3.  Samson's Off-Peopling Article

    Posted 09-16-2004 07:57
    Well, someone (but I don't know who) sent me a copy of the Samson article.
    Here are my reactions.

    I find the "off-peopling" term "off putting." There is a name for moving
    "mental" work from people to machines. That word is "automation" (which is
    of course distinct from the word used to identify "muscle" work being moved
    from people to machines; namely, "mechanization").

    I do not find the distinction between "know-how" and "hyper-human" work very
    useful. There is a great deal of work now being done by computers that was
    once thought safe from automation (just ask those loan officers and
    insurance underwriters). Remember, also, that work is defined by process
    AND result or outcome. The work I moved from people to computers was moved
    NOT as a result of having the computer do what the people did but as a
    result of devising a process the computer could use to produce the desired
    outcome (typically more accurately, more reliably, faster and less
    expensively than having people do it). By way of example, the work of
    Financial Aid Assistants (a now defunct job category) at Educational Testing
    Service, was moved to the computer as a result of devising algorithms that
    expressed the process for resolving edit errors associated with Financial
    Aid Applications that had been suspended from computer processing. Ditto
    for health claims examiners, lost and stolen travelers checks examiners,
    loan officers and insurance underwriters. The computer doesn't and can
    never do the work people do the same way people do. What can be done is to
    devise a way for the computer to produce the same or better results. That's
    automation and it's been on the radar screen for a long, long time now.

    I appreciate Samson's optimism about the ability of people to find a safe
    haven in "hyper-human" work and jobs but I'm a pessimist on that score. It
    seems to me that unfettered capitalism has also loosed the bonds of greed
    and the structure of business and industry is such that the rich get richer
    and the poor get poorer, which we all know, but also that the middle class
    is disappearing. A few are scrambling to higher ground but most I fear are
    being shoved downward where they will join the ranks of the marginally
    employed. This, I think, is part of a great leveling going on around the
    globe. The standard of living in countries such as India and China seems to
    me to be rising - but at the expense of the standard of living for many
    people in countries such as the United States. ("Off shoring" is "off
    putting" too.)

    Samson muddies his story by interjecting outsourcing and off-shoring into
    his off-peopling argument. Those are different phenomena.

    I don't think his warnings to CEOs that they might be shooting themselves in
    the foot with off-peopling, off-shoring and outsourcing will carry much
    weight with that audience. They are above such matters. Recent history
    suggest that many of them see themselves as above the law. In any event,
    CEOs are members of the ruling class and you can be sure that they will look
    after their own interests and those of their class.

    Samson's article did remind me of Thorstein Veblen. Most people know Veblen
    as the author of "The Theory of the Leisure Class (1899)." He also wrote
    "The Theory of Business Enterprise (1904)." Something Veblen wrote in the
    latter seems a good fit here:

    "The motive of business is pecuniary gain, the method is essentially
    purchase and sale. The aim and usual outcome is an accumulation of wealth"
    (p.20).

    Almost 30 years later, in "The Modern Corporation and Private Property,"
    Adolph Berle Jr and Gardner Means would point out that the ability to
    accumulate wealth had shifted from the business owner to the managers of
    business enterprises as a consequence of the fragmentation of ownership in
    the form of stockholders.

    In a very real sense, then, we have come full circle. Veblen pointed out
    that the stock company could be traced to early shipping companies.
    However, shippers were speculators; they took advantage of conditions
    instead of shaping them to their own ends. Today's stockholders, the
    presumed "owners" of modern businesses, are once again speculators. By
    contrast, the managers of modern stock companies are accumulating wealth in
    the best of guaranteed fashions. They are simply awarding it to
    themselves. They are shaping conditions to their own ends.

    My conclusion regarding Samson's article, to respond to Edryce's original
    query, is that it is "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

    Regards,

    Fred Nickols, CPT
    Distance Consulting
    "Assistance at a Distance"
    nickols@att.net
    www.nickols.us