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Why won't peole work? Response II

  • 1.  Why won't peole work? Response II

    Posted 10-24-1999 22:47
    Robert Bacal wrote:

    > On 23 Oct 99, at 21:23, Edryce Reynolds wrote:
    >
    > > Robert,
    > >
    > > On the contrary, we can definitely do something about "society" as
    > the
    > > larger system. Why do you think we can't?
    >
    > The issue isn't we as in everyone. The issue is in the person or
    > persons making decisions in business.
    >
    > There is a difference between utopian thinking and dealing with
    > pragmatics, and given a choice between "changing society" or
    > increasing return to shareholders, which do you think most CEO's
    > are going to choose? Which should they choose?
    >
    > Actually, interestingly enough, if you take Deming's thinking to a
    > larger context, if org. leaders are responsible for what happens in
    > their orgs (but not employees), then I suppose the only one
    > responsible and able to assume responsibility for the larger
    > systems in which orgs. are embedded is God.
    >
    > He's generally tied up with things, though.

    And while we're into this branch of the discussion, who might His
    shareholders be, and do you suppose He tries to increase their return?
    :)

    Forsooth, every company is part of a larger system. Every system is
    part of a larger system. My favorite simulation software puts little
    clouds on the edges of the system, and works on what is inside. As
    analysts, the question is, what part of the total system do we isolate
    for analysis? If we do it well, there are fewer large outside
    influences, or more clear ones.

    Jay
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