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Continuing with the metaphor of the elevator, sometimes an individual walks into
an elevator and is caught inside forever facing the back wall, waiting for it to
open, complaining to everyone in the elevator that they want out and the door
does not work.

Yes, each member of the list knows the individual does not know how to get out.
They also know it is because the individual did not pay close attention to the
messages sent at the time they got in. Furthermore, I guess everyone minds their
own business and lets the individual discover their mistake.

I believe we genuinely want to learn and help.

After knowing which way is out, the next question to ponder is whether we
actually give the right signal (presses the right button) to get the result we
want.

Saludos

Esteban

On 2 Nov 99, at 15:50, Francis, Bruce wrote:

> Hi Giuliana,
>
> Somehow your request to unsubscribe is coming to me. I am also a
> subscriber, not the administrator. I know how you feel and wish I could
> help you but I don't even know if I could figure out how to unsubscribe
> myself. Maybe we're both stuck here forever, like being caught together in
> an elevator that never reaches the ground floor! Frustrating, huh?

Or perhaps it's because, for some people, the elevator never
reaches the top <grin>.


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Well folks, we invested a lot of money and intellectual capital in solving
this problem with GWIN Pro's Lookout! service. We do not currently have a
discussion forum on business process, but we are always open to working with
any professional organization or community.

You can go here to see how it works. The software requires registration and
a login and password for security, but from then on it only requires a click
to manage your subscriptions.

http://gwin.net/Register/Lookout.htm

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Bacal <rbacal@ESCAPE.CA>
To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU <MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: please


On 2 Nov 99, at 15:50, Francis, Bruce wrote:

> Hi Giuliana,
>
> Somehow your request to unsubscribe is coming to me. I am also a
> subscriber, not the administrator. I know how you feel and wish I could
> help you but I don't even know if I could figure out how to unsubscribe
> myself. Maybe we're both stuck here forever, like being caught together in
> an elevator that never reaches the ground floor! Frustrating, huh?

Or perhaps it's because, for some people, the elevator never
reaches the top <grin>.


Visit the Business & Mgmt. Bookshelf - summaries of best books in HR,
interviewing, leadership, motivation, training activities
, and a number of other categories.
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http://members.xoom.com/topbooks

On 2 Nov 99, at 23:29, Mark Montgomery wrote:

> Well folks, we invested a lot of money and intellectual capital in solving
> this problem with GWIN Pro's Lookout! service. We do not currently have a
> discussion forum on business process, but we are always open to working
> with any professional organization or community.

Since you wrote this in response to my comment about people's
elevators stopping short of the top, I'm assuming that the problem
you are talking about is that.

MAAAN...are you gonna be a rich man. If you can ensure that
everyone's elevators are reaching the top floor with some sort of
software, you got something.

Or perhaps you have an elevator problem yourself? <grin>


> http://gwin.net/Register/Lookout.htm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Bacal <rbacal@ESCAPE.CA>
> To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU <MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
> Date: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 10:59 PM
> Subject: Re: please
>
>
> On 2 Nov 99, at 15:50, Francis, Bruce wrote:
>
> > Hi Giuliana,
> >
> > Somehow your request to unsubscribe is coming to me. I am also a
> > subscriber, not the administrator. I know how you feel and wish I could
> > help you but I don't even know if I could figure out how to unsubscribe
> > myself. Maybe we're both stuck here forever, like being caught together
> > in an elevator that never reaches the ground floor! Frustrating, huh?
>
> Or perhaps it's because, for some people, the elevator never
> reaches the top <grin>.


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, and a number of other categories.
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http://members.xoom.com/topbooks

Does anyone wish to discuss anything other than elevators (lifts to me),
how to use the e-mail and whether or not systems are required to have a
purpose. Is anyone else interested in mangement education and
development?

ESTEBAN TREVIÑO MUGUERZA wrote:
>
> Continuing with the metaphor of the elevator, sometimes an individual walks into
> an elevator and is caught inside forever facing the back wall, waiting for it to
> open, complaining to everyone in the elevator that they want out and the door
> does not work.
>
> Yes, each member of the list knows the individual does not know how to get out.
> They also know it is because the individual did not pay close attention to the
> messages sent at the time they got in. Furthermore, I guess everyone minds their
> own business and lets the individual discover their mistake.
>
> I believe we genuinely want to learn and help.
>
> After knowing which way is out, the next question to ponder is whether we
> actually give the right signal (presses the right button) to get the result we
> want.
>
> Saludos
>
> Esteban

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 Vielba CA wrote, Re: please
>
[...]Is anyone else interested in mangement education and
>development?

Sure. What would you like to discuss?

Jack Ring
Innovation Management
32712 N. 70th St., Snottsdale, AZ 85262-7143
Office) 480-488-4615, Cell) 602.369.4615, Fax) 480-488-4616
We all think alike, none of us very much.

unsubscribe
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Ring <jring@AMUG.ORG>
To: <MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 12:54 AM
Subject: Re: please


> On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 Vielba CA wrote, Re: please
> >
> [...]Is anyone else interested in mangement education and
> >development?
>
> Sure. What would you like to discuss?
>
> Jack Ring
> Innovation Management
> 32712 N. 70th St., Snottsdale, AZ 85262-7143
> Office) 480-488-4615, Cell) 602.369.4615, Fax) 480-488-4616
> We all think alike, none of us very much.
>

> >
> [...]Is anyone else interested in mangement education and
> >development?
>
> Sure. What would you like to discuss?
>
Hi!

What about how to educate and develope leaders in creativity and innovation?

Sylvie