Dear Charles,
I shared your message with some friends. Here is an interesting reply. Best,
Bernardo
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Thank you for the mail.
Concerning the ranking of German Business School, I am an expert as our
institute did the largest survey on ranking in Germany usually published
in the major newsmagazine the Spiegel and the Stern. Some of the ranking
done are compared to the ranking in the US are of very low, low quality.
Our insitute's approach is no taken over by the Bertelsmann Stiftung.
It is true the private ones get the best marks, Witten Herdecke University
(WHU) especially.But the private business schools are often very small,
staff is changing quickly and in most cases offer no infrastructure. They
all have only a very small number of students. They are good if you confine
your study to a very limited number of subjects and (as we all do ) like to
work in small classes. Research like at the universities is simply not
existent.
Nevertheless, if we analyse the result of the business surveys, they like
them most( even if they don' t know them). WHU is now
building on the second generation of teachers. The first generation of
professors (who stayed at their universities and teached only part-time)
is on the leave, I think their reputation is declining very fast, maybe
fresh blood from international nets could stop the erosion.
Asking colleagues they would favor Mannheim and Cologne. Both have
together with Munich the largest departments and for some time they have
made a very successful network policy, many chairs at other universities
have been taken by former research assistents of those universities.
Concerning diversity and breadth of subjects, they are still very good.
Concerning teaching big questions may be asked. Some judge it very hard
and some of the internal evaluations of teaching have led to State
interventions .
If you look on the marks given by former or current students,
survey results on German universities are very mixed. Usually the younger
universities get much better marks. But, there is a lot of change from
year to year. No stable pattern appears, the top one by colleagues are
not the top one by students. Compared to universities in the United
States or even Britain, the differences are very small, qualtiy of
teaching, infrastructure etc is very similar at most institutions.
In teaching some Fachhochschulen (colleges for applied teaching, only
with BA level and without research) did very well. Usually they are very
good in teaching in classform, with small number of students, but they
do no research. Some have got a good reputation in teaching
specializing in one field or cooperating with one firm like the FH
Reutlingen. It would be foolish to consider them as a fullfledged
business school.
I know, it is very difficult from the outside to understand the German
system and to me it seems sometimes strange, that everybody is looking
to find for Germany a ranking like the Ivy League or in Britain
Oxbridge. Maybe in the future, it will come, currently this is simply
not the case. Concerning the big ones, probably very few colleagues, if
they know them, send their kids there.
Kindly
Gerd-Michael Hellstern
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Universitat Gesamthochschule Kassel
Fachbereich Wirtschaftswissenschaften
Dr. Prof. Gerd-Michael Hellstern
Nora-Platiel-Str. 4
34109 Kassel
Tel. 0561/804-3075
Fax 0561/804-3528
hellstern@wirtschaft.uni-kassel.de
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Dr Bernardo Batiz-Lazo
Director of Research Degrees
Open University Business School
Walton Hall
Milton Keynes
MK7 6AA
+44 (0)1908 659 124
http://www.open.ac.uk/oubs
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Wankel
To:
MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
Sent: 18.03.02 14:39
Subject: European Business School Scene
I found the below material on the European Business School Scene. I
invite Charles Baden-Fuller and Siah Hwee Ang to post further comments
on this research and on their predictions for the future of European
Business Schools to Mg-Ed-Dv.
Cybercollaborating,
Charles Wankel
Mg-Ed-Dv List Director
St. John's University, New York City
wankelc@stjohns.edu
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Building Reputations: The Role of Alliances in the European Business
School Scene
Long Range Planning, Volume 34, Issue 6, December 2001, Pages 741-755
Charles Baden-Fuller and Siah Hwee Ang
How should businesses best choose foreign partners as they seek to
internationalise? We use reputation theory to examine this question.
Building reputation is a key aim on the European Business School scene,
and this article starts by using more than 2,000 articles written by
European academics in top quality journals to update the LRP research
reputation rankings of European Schools. We then look at the way
international research collaboration takes place, and find that
alliances between schools are far from random. It seems that academics
from US and European schools are strongly attracted to form alliances
with one another, and the choice process appears to be consistent with
reputation theory that suggests US schools seek out the most reputable
foreign partners. Moreover, the "charmed circle" of high-reputation
partners appears to be defined on a country-to-country basis rather than
from a whole-Europe perspective. The lessons for managers in
internationalising industries are that international alliance choice
must include a reputation perspective, with great care being paid to the
exact nature of the foreign partner's achievements.
Related press release:
European Business Schools and their Challenge to UK Research
Reputations.
The UK is only just retaining its position in the European Research
Rankings for
business research according to Charles Baden-Fuller and Siah Hwee Ang of
City
University Business School. But the gap between the leader, London
Business
School, and the number two, INSEAD, has narrowed to only three points.
Moreover,
the continentals claim five positions in the top 10 compared to three in
the last
ranking exercise carried out in October 2000. Tel Aviv, Erasmus
Rotterdam, Tilburg,
and Groningen join with INSEAD to provide the stiffest continental
competition.
And in the top 40, the UK accounts for 20 schools, down from 23 last
time. The
tables are based on the best quality research that is published in the
leading academic
international journals over the six-year period 1995 to 2000.
Why are the mainland-Europeans catching up? One reason is that the US
schools that
dominate internationally excellent research are increasingly forming
alliances with the
top research schools on the continent. In their
LRP: Long Range Planning Article
,
Charles Baden-Fuller and Siah Hwee Ang show why the US schools prefer to
partner
with the continentals: the Americans like to gain access to European
data on a country
by country basis.
Most UK schools are not playing the right game. For example, Oxford,
Cambridge
and Manchester, all good schools, have formed only 3 effective US
research
collaborations over the last 6 years, in contrast to 53 by INSEAD, 33 by
LBS, 18 by
KUL Belgium, and 12 by Erasmus Rotterdam.
In the battle for global attention, where reputation dominates, UK
business schools
have a lot to do. They have started with an advantage, and the gap is
eroding fast.
Next week's RAE may reinforce the parochial view that the UK is doing
well, for it
will not show that British schools are slipping in the international
league tables.
(approx 300 words)
For more information, please call:
Charles Baden-Fuller on 020 7706 3976 (home) or 020 7040 8775 (Long
Range
Planning editorial office
From:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:YNbGoKcDCvIC:www.lrp.ac/Press_Relea
se_reputations_v1.pdf+Charles+Baden-Fuller+
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ase_reputations_v1.pdf+Charles+Baden-Fuller+&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1>
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Also,
The Ranking of European Business Schools
Charles Baden-Fuller, Fabiola Ravazzolo and Tanja Schweizer Making and
Measuring Reputations: The Research Ranking of European Business Schools
Rankings of organisations mirror and create reputations. This article
is about reputations and their exploitation, in the context of business
school rankings. We set out to spotlight the European scene and present
an exclusive ranking of the research activities of all business schools
in Europe. Our ranking is based on work published in top quality
international journals. The mission of business schools is not only to
train managers and educate students, but it is also to develop the
ideas, theories and evidence that will reshape management practice in
the future. Europe needs strong business schools as one part of its
overall strategy. Our top research schools are: London BusinessSchool,
INSEAD, Tel Aviv, Warwick, Manchester, Cambridge, Erasmus University
(NL), City (UK), Cranfield, the London School of Economics and the
Stockholm School of Economics. We compare our rankings with those of
other reputation makers, such as The Financial Times and national
ranking schemes, and we find that our list is more robust and
comprehensive.
From:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:5qBvZy-vK64C:www.lrp.ac/33_5_octobe
r_2000.html+%22Charles+Baden-Fuller%22+european+business+schools
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er_2000.html+%22Charles+Baden-Fuller%22+european+business+schools&hl=en&
ie=ISO-8859-1> &hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1
Kommentar: Deutschland - ein MBA-Entwicklungsland?
http://www.b-school-net.de/articles/MBA-Entwicklungsland_06012002.htm
Though no German business school has an outstanding international
reputation, within German several might be develoing "a certain
reputation": WHU, HHL, University of Mannheim, University of Cologne and
FH Reutlingen.
"I would not call Germany a developing country within the range Business
Administration education? Rather, an Emerging Market, which offers great
opportunity."