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  • 1.  MG-ED-DV Digest - 24 Nov 1999 to 25 Nov 1999 (#1999-289)

    Posted 11-26-1999 10:46
    This "attachments" topic has been a powerful discrimmintor.

    It has enabled those who are "self-oriented" and those who are
    "others-oriented" to identify themselves to the list.

    Maybe a compilation of the responses would make a good lesson for
    management education and development.

    Jack Ring
    Innovation Management
    32712 N. 70th St., Snottsdale, AZ 85262-7143
    Office) 480-488-4615, Cell) 602.369.4615, Fax) 480-488-4616
    Where all think alike, no one thinks very much. (Walter Lippman)


  • 2.  MG-ED-DV Digest - 24 Nov 1999 to 25 Nov 1999 (#1999-289)

    Posted 11-26-1999 12:53
    Jack, you hit this one right on the nose.

    On 26 Nov 99, at 8:45, Jack Ring wrote:

    > This "attachments" topic has been a powerful discrimmintor.
    >
    > It has enabled those who are "self-oriented" and those who are
    > "others-oriented" to identify themselves to the list.
    >
    > Maybe a compilation of the responses would make a good lesson for
    > management education and development.
    >
    > Jack Ring
    > Innovation Management
    > 32712 N. 70th St., Snottsdale, AZ 85262-7143
    > Office) 480-488-4615, Cell) 602.369.4615, Fax) 480-488-4616
    > Where all think alike, no one thinks very much. (Walter Lippman)


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  • 3.  MG-ED-DV Digest - 24 Nov 1999 to 25 Nov 1999 (#1999-289)

    Posted 11-27-1999 00:17
    Hi Everyone.

    Being on aol, I am somewhat sheltered from the problems that attachments
    cause. I appreciate the dialogue about the various consequences that the
    different email programs produce, and would have to conclude that the
    interests of the majority far outweigh my abilty to choose when to download
    or not.

    I do have a question.. how is it that this choice doesn't exist in other
    email programs ?? Do attachment automatically get downloaded when the mail is
    opened ??

    Judi


  • 4.  MG-ED-DV Digest - 24 Nov 1999 to 25 Nov 1999 (#1999-289)

    Posted 11-27-1999 03:15
    On 27 Nov 99, at 0:16, Judi Baumbach wrote:

    > I do have a question.. how is it that this choice doesn't exist in other
    > email programs ?? Do attachment automatically get downloaded when the mail
    > is opened ??

    My bet is since most of us haven't used all the programs around, it
    would be hard to say. Generally attachments sent, let's say to my
    mailbox (along with mail) will sit in my mailbox at my ISP until I
    download them. But they seem to be integral to the messages. I
    could do a selective download of mail, but that adds steps and
    times to the process. And I'd have to scan the messages in one
    step, then download what I want in another, then delete (if that's
    possible) in yet another. And, I'd have to do it by size, since I can't
    tell when there are attachments.

    Regardless, they sit at the ISP, and that's a major problem. Some
    people (and this applies to me, I think, or used to), work with ISP's
    that impose a size limit on the mailbox, let's say 1 megabyte.
    Once that's reached bad things happen...either the mail box rejects
    posts if there's no space (and it goes into nevernever land), or it
    may do other strange things, like require me to log in via the shell
    to clean up the mess (that happened once).

    The risk increases for people who only pick up their mail
    occasionally, since attachments and/or large emails accumulate.
    Or for people who travel (like myself, and I presume many others
    on the list).

    If you've ever gotten a "mailbox full" message, that's the cause.

    And, often our mailbox limits aren't under our own control. Further,
    several internet access plans are metered, either in time, or in
    bytes. Cable modem owners here have a limit for transfer. After
    that, they pay, so unwanted large emails can cost people money.
    Second, some plans offer x hrs. for x dollars. So, if one is on one
    of them, and has to spend 1 hour downloading junk, then that bites
    into the time (I will eventually be switching my account to one of
    those). Again, if you go over the allotted quote, it costs and
    sometimes pretty big time.



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