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  • 1.  ADA Policy Decision

    Posted 12-14-1999 09:32
    On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 Conna Condon wrote Re: anticipating bad decisions
    >
    >May I use this sample in my classes? I teach strategic information
    >management, and this is a great example of a modern case of Nolan's Control
    >Stage of maturity.
    ><grins>

    You should be aware that the ADA policy decision was probably worse than
    Jim Dobbins portrays because according to FEDSIM studies in 1992 ADA proves
    to be a rather inefficient way to express software constructs.

    And your mention of Nolan triggered another example.
    Watch the SEI's Capability Maturity Model for Software, and their
    Capability Maturity Model for Systems Engineering and their Capability
    Maturity model for People and their forthcoming Capability Maturity Model,
    Integrated [ ;-) now that they are a little more mature]. These
    unvalidated, theoretically flawed models are used by the US Government to
    reject prospective contractors who have not spent the $50K to get "graded."
    Worse, they are now being promulgated across unsuspecting IT shops in
    non-government arenas and may be used to select contractors there, too.
    Jack Ring, 32712 N. 70th St., Snottsdale, AZ 85262-7143
    480-488-4615, Cell) 602.369.4615,


  • 2.  ADA Policy Decision

    Posted 12-14-1999 13:13
    Jack,

    It's worse than that. A new policy just issued says that any
    contractor who is going to bid for software on an ACAT-1 program
    has to be SEI Level 3 or equivalent, and the policy is effective
    immediately.
    Problem is, no one knows what equivalent means. Sort of like
    "What is the equivalent of a Ph.D.?" So, as the policy goes
    into effect immediately, a team is coming together, slowly, to
    try and decide what equivalent to SEI Level 3 means. Should
    be interesting.

    Jim Dobbins

    --- Original Message ---
    Jack Ring <jring@AMUG.ORG> Wrote on
    Tue, 14 Dec 1999 07:32:10 -0700
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    On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 Conna Condon wrote Re: anticipating bad decisions
    >
    >May I use this sample in my classes? I teach strategic information
    >management, and this is a great example of a modern case of
    Nolan's Control
    >Stage of maturity.
    ><grins>

    You should be aware that the ADA policy decision was probably
    worse than
    Jim Dobbins portrays because according to FEDSIM studies in 1992
    ADA proves
    to be a rather inefficient way to express software constructs.

    And your mention of Nolan triggered another example.
    Watch the SEI's Capability Maturity Model for Software, and their
    Capability Maturity Model for Systems Engineering and their Capability
    Maturity model for People and their forthcoming Capability Maturity
    Model,
    Integrated [ ;-) now that they are a little more mature]. These
    unvalidated, theoretically flawed models are used by the US Government
    to
    reject prospective contractors who have not spent the $50K to
    get "graded."
    Worse, they are now being promulgated across unsuspecting IT
    shops in
    non-government arenas and may be used to select contractors there,
    too.
    Jack Ring, 32712 N. 70th St., Snottsdale, AZ 85262-7143
    480-488-4615, Cell) 602.369.4615,


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  • 3.  ADA Policy Decision

    Posted 12-14-1999 18:10
    Funny you should mention CMM ... I was discussing this last night with a
    friend who works GS in DOD in aerospace. The aspect we were discussing
    were the performance metrics. Several of the ones he deals with are for
    things outside his control. :)


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Jack Ring" <jring@AMUG.ORG>
    To: <MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
    Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 6:32 AM
    Subject: Re: ADA Policy Decision


    > On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 Conna Condon wrote Re: anticipating bad decisions
    > >
    > >May I use this sample in my classes? I teach strategic information
    > >management, and this is a great example of a modern case of Nolan's
    Control
    > >Stage of maturity.
    > ><grins>
    >
    > You should be aware that the ADA policy decision was probably worse than
    > Jim Dobbins portrays because according to FEDSIM studies in 1992 ADA
    proves
    > to be a rather inefficient way to express software constructs.
    >
    > And your mention of Nolan triggered another example.
    > Watch the SEI's Capability Maturity Model for Software, and their
    > Capability Maturity Model for Systems Engineering and their Capability
    > Maturity model for People and their forthcoming Capability Maturity Model,
    > Integrated [ ;-) now that they are a little more mature]. These
    > unvalidated, theoretically flawed models are used by the US Government to
    > reject prospective contractors who have not spent the $50K to get
    "graded."
    > Worse, they are now being promulgated across unsuspecting IT shops in
    > non-government arenas and may be used to select contractors there, too.
    > Jack Ring, 32712 N. 70th St., Snottsdale, AZ 85262-7143
    > 480-488-4615, Cell) 602.369.4615,
    >