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  • 1.  Innovation vs invention

    Posted 05-08-2006 11:16
    Colleagues,

    I'll wander from the topic of films for teaching leadership.

    Lynn Martin used the word "innovator" to invoke stereotypes from test
    subjects.

    For what it's worth, much of the business community makes the same mistake.
    The scientist is an inventor, not an innovator. The successful entrepreneur
    is an innovator.

    I suspect that academicians teach often creativity in "innovation" courses.


    When I chaired the Colorado Innovation Summit, I did web research to settle
    on a definition. There is lots of confusion, yet the most often used
    concept was "introduce something new to a market." That "something," of
    course, can be a new idea, product, business, company, industry, or
    government. The "industry" might be commercial, arts, education, military,
    government, or even religion.

    When we look for stereotypes, we often need to look at the words we use. If
    people haven't taken the time to look up a definition, then media
    stereotypes will dominate perceptions.

    Best,

    Gary
    --
    Change agent skills
    are as important to individual success
    as are professional discipline skills.

    Gary Lundquist
    303-840-9929 GaryL@Market-Engineering.com
    President - Market Engineering International
    www.Market-Engineering.com
    Editor - The Colorado Innovation Newsletter
    www.ColoradoInnovation.blogs.com


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Management Education and Development Discussion
    [mailto:MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lynn Martin
    Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 4:20 AM
    To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: Using films to teach leadership


    I think the last commentator is absolutely right. These views are implicit,
    deeply ingrained and may not be recognized by the holders of these
    perceptions.



    Recent research at UCE has identified similar stereotypes with words such as
    "entrepreneur" "scientist" and "innovator" where images seem uniformly to be
    of a middle aged white male. Differences emerged here with entrepreneurs
    seen as ruthless, sharp suited with a range of material possessions while
    innovators were characterised as scientists i.e., irresponsible bespectacled
    meddlers, either with wild hair or bald. Hollywood has a lot to answer for,
    perhaps.



    A more depressing study last year also asked students and members of other
    groups to identify 5 names as role models of an entrepreneurs and
    innovators; 5 business sectors which might also be considered to be
    entrepreneurial or innovative. Results - All male, mainly US despite this
    being an international survey with respondents from the UK, China, India,
    other areas of south east Asia, Interestingly, this was true even when focus
    groups were held in premises owned by highly successful and dynamic Asian or
    female entrepreneurs.



    Even worse, when parts of the exercise reviewed quotes and results from
    different sectors and using cases such as Bodyshop and L'Oreal, some
    delegates really felt that "cosmetics" or the beauty industry should not be
    included as that "really wasn't a proper industry", favoring instead auto
    and aerospace, nano-technologies etc. Hence female industries too do not
    seem to count, however innovative they may be.



    Looks like we may have some work to do yet to change such perceptions.
    Please, tell me it's better in the USA!



    Best wishes



    Lynn Martin



    Dr L M Martin

    Director, Entrepreneurship and Innovation

    UCE, Perry Barr, Birmingham B42 2Su

    Untied Kingdom

    +44 121 331 7260 / 7248

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Management Education and Development Discussion on behalf of
    Lmxlotus@AOL.COM
    Sent: Mon 08/05/2006 09:38
    To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Cc:
    Subject: Re: Using films to teach leadership



    In a message dated 5/8/2006 1:49:36 AM Central Standard Time,
    terence_laoshi@YAHOO.COM.AU writes:


    Speaking of predominantly male leadership models, I teach
    students about stereotyping using a movie still with two business executives
    at a desk. I ask Ss to nominate who these two people are and what they are
    speaking about.

    Of course, nine times out of ten the man is nominated as the
    boss or other comparatively more powerful individual. Where the two have
    equal position status, the male is invariably controlling in the Ss' role
    play performances.

    Of course, students begin the lesson by avowing that they
    DEFINITELY DO NOT stereotype people.



    STEROTYPES ARE DYSFUNCTIONAL. THE THIRD CULTURE BONDING MODEL TCB IS
    BASED ON THIS POSTULATE (AOM PERSPECTIVES, IN PRESS). MALES AS PREFERRED
    LEADERS IS A SURFACE-LEVEL PRODUCT OF IGNORANCE THAT IS CORRECTED WITH REAL
    DEEP-LEVEL EXPERIENCE WE FIND ( DEALING WITH DIVERSITY, 2003, INFO AGE
    PUBLISHING, GRAEN). THIS IS THE CASE IN EVERY CULTURE THAT WE HAVE STUDIED.

    G2


  • 2.  Innovation vs invention

    Posted 05-08-2006 11:25
    My colleague and I use Innovation to define "something new AND
    different" - something that adds economic and / or social value.

    Harsha Desai
    Professor of Management and
    Director, Center for Closely Held Firms
    Loyola College in Maryland
    Baltimore, Maryland 21210 USA

    >>> garyl@MARKET-ENGINEERING.COM 05/08/06 11:15:33 AM >>>
    Colleagues,

    I'll wander from the topic of films for teaching leadership.

    Lynn Martin used the word "innovator" to invoke stereotypes from test
    subjects.

    For what it's worth, much of the business community makes the same
    mistake.
    The scientist is an inventor, not an innovator. The successful
    entrepreneur
    is an innovator.

    I suspect that academicians teach often creativity in "innovation"
    courses.


    When I chaired the Colorado Innovation Summit, I did web research to
    settle
    on a definition. There is lots of confusion, yet the most often used
    concept was "introduce something new to a market." That "something,"
    of
    course, can be a new idea, product, business, company, industry, or
    government. The "industry" might be commercial, arts, education,
    military,
    government, or even religion.

    When we look for stereotypes, we often need to look at the words we
    use. If
    people haven't taken the time to look up a definition, then media
    stereotypes will dominate perceptions.

    Best,

    Gary
    --
    Change agent skills
    are as important to individual success
    as are professional discipline skills.

    Gary Lundquist
    303-840-9929 GaryL@Market-Engineering.com
    President - Market Engineering International
    www.Market-Engineering.com
    Editor - The Colorado Innovation Newsletter
    www.ColoradoInnovation.blogs.com


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Management Education and Development Discussion
    [mailto:MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lynn Martin
    Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 4:20 AM
    To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: Using films to teach leadership


    I think the last commentator is absolutely right. These views are
    implicit,
    deeply ingrained and may not be recognized by the holders of these
    perceptions.



    Recent research at UCE has identified similar stereotypes with words
    such as
    "entrepreneur" "scientist" and "innovator" where images seem uniformly
    to be
    of a middle aged white male. Differences emerged here with
    entrepreneurs
    seen as ruthless, sharp suited with a range of material possessions
    while
    innovators were characterised as scientists i.e., irresponsible
    bespectacled
    meddlers, either with wild hair or bald. Hollywood has a lot to answer
    for,
    perhaps.



    A more depressing study last year also asked students and members of
    other
    groups to identify 5 names as role models of an entrepreneurs and
    innovators; 5 business sectors which might also be considered to be
    entrepreneurial or innovative. Results - All male, mainly US despite
    this
    being an international survey with respondents from the UK, China,
    India,
    other areas of south east Asia, Interestingly, this was true even when
    focus
    groups were held in premises owned by highly successful and dynamic
    Asian or
    female entrepreneurs.



    Even worse, when parts of the exercise reviewed quotes and results
    from
    different sectors and using cases such as Bodyshop and L'Oreal, some
    delegates really felt that "cosmetics" or the beauty industry should
    not be
    included as that "really wasn't a proper industry", favoring instead
    auto
    and aerospace, nano-technologies etc. Hence female industries too do
    not
    seem to count, however innovative they may be.



    Looks like we may have some work to do yet to change such perceptions.
    Please, tell me it's better in the USA!



    Best wishes



    Lynn Martin



    Dr L M Martin

    Director, Entrepreneurship and Innovation

    UCE, Perry Barr, Birmingham B42 2Su

    Untied Kingdom

    +44 121 331 7260 / 7248

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Management Education and Development Discussion on behalf
    of
    Lmxlotus@AOL.COM
    Sent: Mon 08/05/2006 09:38
    To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Cc:
    Subject: Re: Using films to teach leadership



    In a message dated 5/8/2006 1:49:36 AM Central Standard Time,
    terence_laoshi@YAHOO.COM.AU writes:


    Speaking of predominantly male leadership models, I
    teach
    students about stereotyping using a movie still with two business
    executives
    at a desk. I ask Ss to nominate who these two people are and what they
    are
    speaking about.

    Of course, nine times out of ten the man is nominated as
    the
    boss or other comparatively more powerful individual. Where the two
    have
    equal position status, the male is invariably controlling in the Ss'
    role
    play performances.

    Of course, students begin the lesson by avowing that
    they
    DEFINITELY DO NOT stereotype people.



    STEROTYPES ARE DYSFUNCTIONAL. THE THIRD CULTURE BONDING MODEL
    TCB IS
    BASED ON THIS POSTULATE (AOM PERSPECTIVES, IN PRESS). MALES AS
    PREFERRED
    LEADERS IS A SURFACE-LEVEL PRODUCT OF IGNORANCE THAT IS CORRECTED WITH
    REAL
    DEEP-LEVEL EXPERIENCE WE FIND ( DEALING WITH DIVERSITY, 2003, INFO AGE
    PUBLISHING, GRAEN). THIS IS THE CASE IN EVERY CULTURE THAT WE HAVE
    STUDIED.

    G2


  • 3.  Innovation vs invention

    Posted 05-11-2006 14:20
    Gary writes in part:

    >>For what it's worth, much of the business community makes the same
    mistake. The scientist is an inventor, not an innovator. The successful
    entrepreneur is an innovator.<<

    I formerly worked for 3M, a company with some reputation in the field of
    innovation. One of the VPs, Geoff Nicholson, used this slide in some of
    his presentations:
    Research is turning money into knowledge;
    Innovation is turning knowledge into money.

    ... at least in the for-profit world.

    Michael A

    Michael Ayers
    mbayers@earthlink.net <=> www.TheCommonwealthPractice.com
    -> Who are you gonna be while you're doing what you do? <-
    612.308.0501 (mobile)


  • 4.  Innovation vs invention

    Posted 05-11-2006 14:53
    Colleagues,

    Michael Ayers wrote:
    "3M, a company with some reputation in the field of innovation. One of the
    VPs, Geoff Nicholson, used this slide in some of his presentations:
    Research is turning money into knowledge;
    Innovation is turning knowledge into money."

    I've loved that quote ever since I found it while researching the definition
    of innovation. I found others that support that position. Yet I did the
    research because I found such common disagreement with that view that I had
    to question my own understanding.

    Just as with other stereotypes, the common perception (even in for-profit
    businesses) is that innovation is a creative activity. Improving innovation
    means improving ideation or getting more out of R&D. Innovation is equated
    to invention.

    At another level, innovation is perceived as about products. "Innovating a
    business" isn't language people use.

    I chaired the Colorado Innovation Summit for two years. I don't have a
    defined market-research study to quote. Just the interaction with advisors,
    companies with potential speakers, speakers themselves, sponsors,
    exhibitors, and audiences. Indeed, my partner in the project was on the
    invention side. I had to show him quotes like that above to convince him to
    stage a conference with a broader focus.

    If anyone cares, my white paper, "Innovation and Wealth Creation" has lots
    of quotes on innovation. If you want it, contact me directly at
    GaryL@Market-Engineering.com.

    Best to all,

    Gary
    --
    Change agent skills
    are as important to individual success
    as are professional discipline skills.

    Gary Lundquist
    303-840-9929 GaryL@Market-Engineering.com
    President - Market Engineering International
    www.Market-Engineering.com
    Editor - The Colorado Innovation Newsletter
    www.ColoradoInnovation.blogs.com


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Michael Ayers [mailto:mbayers@earthlink.net]
    Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:20 AM
    To: Management Education and Development Discussion
    Cc: garyl@MARKET-ENGINEERING.COM
    Subject: RE: Innovation vs invention


    Gary writes in part:

    >>For what it's worth, much of the business community makes the same
    mistake. The scientist is an inventor, not an innovator. The successful
    entrepreneur is an innovator.<<

    I formerly worked for 3M, a company with some reputation in the field of
    innovation. One of the VPs, Geoff Nicholson, used this slide in some of his
    presentations:
    Research is turning money into knowledge;
    Innovation is turning knowledge into money.

    ... at least in the for-profit world.

    Michael A

    Michael Ayers
    mbayers@earthlink.net <=> www.TheCommonwealthPractice.com
    -> Who are you gonna be while you're doing what you do? <- 612.308.0501
    (mobile)


  • 5.  Innovation vs invention

    Posted 05-11-2006 15:56
    All of which indicates the losses we incur by not learning the symbol set we
    use in attempts to communicate. According to your Latin teacher (had you
    been paying attention), doesn't
    in-vent mean 'to occur or to come out'
    in-novate mean 'to insert new into existing'?


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Gary Lundquist" <garyl@MARKET-ENGINEERING.COM>
    To: <MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU>
    Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:52 AM
    Subject: Re: Innovation vs invention


    > Colleagues,
    >
    > Michael Ayers wrote:
    > "3M, a company with some reputation in the field of innovation. One of
    > the
    > VPs, Geoff Nicholson, used this slide in some of his presentations:
    > Research is turning money into knowledge;
    > Innovation is turning knowledge into money."
    >
    > I've loved that quote ever since I found it while researching the
    > definition
    > of innovation. I found others that support that position. Yet I did the
    > research because I found such common disagreement with that view that I
    > had
    > to question my own understanding.
    >
    > Just as with other stereotypes, the common perception (even in for-profit
    > businesses) is that innovation is a creative activity. Improving
    > innovation
    > means improving ideation or getting more out of R&D. Innovation is
    > equated
    > to invention.
    >
    > At another level, innovation is perceived as about products. "Innovating
    > a
    > business" isn't language people use.
    >
    > I chaired the Colorado Innovation Summit for two years. I don't have a
    > defined market-research study to quote. Just the interaction with
    > advisors,
    > companies with potential speakers, speakers themselves, sponsors,
    > exhibitors, and audiences. Indeed, my partner in the project was on the
    > invention side. I had to show him quotes like that above to convince him
    > to
    > stage a conference with a broader focus.
    >
    > If anyone cares, my white paper, "Innovation and Wealth Creation" has lots
    > of quotes on innovation. If you want it, contact me directly at
    > GaryL@Market-Engineering.com.
    >
    > Best to all,
    >
    > Gary
    > --
    > Change agent skills
    > are as important to individual success
    > as are professional discipline skills.
    >
    > Gary Lundquist
    > 303-840-9929 GaryL@Market-Engineering.com
    > President - Market Engineering International
    > www.Market-Engineering.com
    > Editor - The Colorado Innovation Newsletter
    > www.ColoradoInnovation.blogs.com
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Michael Ayers [mailto:mbayers@earthlink.net]
    > Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:20 AM
    > To: Management Education and Development Discussion
    > Cc: garyl@MARKET-ENGINEERING.COM
    > Subject: RE: Innovation vs invention
    >
    >
    > Gary writes in part:
    >
    >>>For what it's worth, much of the business community makes the same
    > mistake. The scientist is an inventor, not an innovator. The successful
    > entrepreneur is an innovator.<<
    >
    > I formerly worked for 3M, a company with some reputation in the field of
    > innovation. One of the VPs, Geoff Nicholson, used this slide in some of
    > his
    > presentations:
    > Research is turning money into knowledge;
    > Innovation is turning knowledge into money.
    >
    > ... at least in the for-profit world.
    >
    > Michael A
    >
    > Michael Ayers
    > mbayers@earthlink.net <=> www.TheCommonwealthPractice.com
    > -> Who are you gonna be while you're doing what you do? <- 612.308.0501
    > (mobile)
    >
    >