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  • 1.  Quick and Dirty--LONG

    Posted 04-07-2002 17:51
    David and Other Colleagues--

    As a former manager and, now, current educator, I have to say that I
    think that much of what managers are seeking is a pipe dream--relief
    from the pressures of overwork (how can I do things more efficiently?),
    from the constant barrage of other people's problems and misbehaviors
    (how can I motivate them?), from the need to play politics (how can I
    deal with my ___ boss?), from accountability without control (how can I
    restructure this crazy organization so that it works?), from the
    uncertainty that is an inextricable element of most of our decisions,
    and so forth. Our society has taught to rely on rationality uber alles
    (with the exception of romantic and mother-love!) and, so, we think that
    we can and must manage the unmanageable. Furthermore, we see other
    managers around us who seem to have it easier going and we wonder why.
    Instead of investigating the accuracy of our attributions, we tend to
    think that they know something that we don't. We don't investigate
    because, at heart, we don't want to know that they feel beleaguered,
    too. We desparately hope that there is a magic bullet out there that
    will make our lives easier. (Why do you think that most CEO's read so
    many management books, and that many of the great ones read philosophy
    and classics instead?) Both the perception and the hope are in vain.
    (Who was it who said that most of us live lives of quiet desparation?)

    I think that the sin (arrogant idiocy) is in our thinking, saying and
    acting (insofar as we do) as if what we have to offer in the classroom
    (knowledge and skills) will solve their problems. Certainly, we can
    give them some pointers about ways to think that may be new to them and
    that may help put things into perspective or help them figure out for
    themselves how to work things out. But we don't really have "the
    answers", at least, not the ones that they need (usually the consulting
    firms that they hire for the same reason that they go back to school
    don't either--just look at the staggering rate for recidivism in Big
    Five OD programs). They have to find the answers for and within
    themselves. We don't want to tell them that and they don't want to hear
    it!

    So, what we can do to help them? And, are we doing it? How often do we
    ask our students what their issues are, what they want to know, what
    problems are keeping them up at night? And, if we do, how often are we
    willing to revise, or even scrap, our curricula and teach, in the form
    of a joint inquiry, to that? The answer, I think, is "rarely". We--and
    I certainly include myself in this--cling to the notion (tradition) that
    it is our job as professors to define the scope of the inquiry, itemize
    the body of knowledge that it encompass, and hustle students along the
    course of what we call learning. Is that the right thing to do? Are we
    really the "experts"? If not, then what should be our role?

    It is axiomatic that we all teach to our own style. In my view, that
    goes beyond what we tend to think of as learning styles to encompass
    content. In short, most academics teach to future academics, not to
    practitioners. We design our courses and their content for the small
    percentage of our students who will go on to another degree. I find
    myself questioning the wisdom of this. People who follow the path of
    getting more degrees have a strong intrinsic drive to learn--they are,
    to use Peter Vaill's term, "learners as a way of being". Some are even
    true scholars. With or without our help they are like sponges: they are
    intrinsically motivated to seek out learning environments and take care
    of their own learning needs. I think that what we should be focusing on
    is helping students who can't/don't make breakthroughs on their own,
    helping them learn to develop a sense of joy and satisfaction in
    inquiry.

    No apologies for the polemic. You touched a nerve. I just hope that if
    you've read this far, you don't consider it a complete waste of your
    time! :-]

    Ruth

    "Fearon, David (Management)" wrote:
    >
    > There is in a nutshell, folks. Travis Bradberry says, "The world of
    > academic research provides important innovation and fuels my thinking as I
    > consult, but I find that I often have to switch hats before I bring ideas to
    > the client because they only tend to respond to information when it is
    > "quick and dirty."" We teach about management. We teach "to" managers or
    > managers-to-be. We talk to each other about "hard" and "soft" side elements
    > of leadership and management here, and write lines of text to each othe rin
    > the trillions about management. And they want it "quick and dirty" once
    > they are out there doing it! Does anyone wonder what's their rush that
    > makes us have to put what we know on the head of a pin? I suspect, from
    > having spent a lot of time out there with our "product" that they want it
    > fast and simple, because they are drowning in the effluents of badly managed
    > situations. There's simply no time for slow and clean reflection. Today,
    > after another week of being as effective a management educator as I can
    > figure out to be, I have to think that we are either miserable failures or
    > they are. Or are we both? Or, should I just meander back over to the sunny
    > side of the street and let "quick and dirty" be good enough for piece work?
    > David
    >
    > David S. Fearon, Ph.D.
    > Professor of Management
    > 467 Vance Academic Center
    > Central Connecticut State University
    > New Britain, CT 06057
    > fearon@ccsu.edu
    > 860 832 3280 Fax 860 832 3289
    > Cell 860 983 5779


  • 2.  Quick and Dirty--LONG

    Posted 04-08-2002 09:10
    Colleagues,

    I don't come onto the talking side of this list very often. I guess I need
    to
    be provoked (in the good sense of the term). My mild rant about practicing
    managers wanting what have to offer on a "quick and dirty" basis did trigger
    some very interesting replies. Among them is Ruth Axelrod's eloquent
    statement.
    The only other time I can recall coming to the mike in this list, Ruth
    joined
    me in a similarly probing and memorable response.

    This is a Monday morning "thank you" to Ruth and all of you who join me in
    feeling the pull of need out there for better from us in all that we do. It
    may
    not be strong enough to change our stiff institutional posture, despite its
    growing strength, but it does keep me on the creative side of my own
    academic practice.

    I have to give this place courses that resemble what they want me to teach
    (and them to learn),
    but that, in action, hardly resemble how I teach and how they learn. It is
    in the differences that I am investing time, heart, and soul. It gives me
    some peace of mind that they leave me better prepared to think with the
    fortunes of a whole organization in mind (not just their own
    fortune). Time will tell.

    I may return to lurking for awhile, but when provoked to write again, I know
    there is a chance for another fine essay from Ruth. That would be worth the
    brief exposure of my
    feelings about our craft to this articulate community.

    David


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ruth H. Axelrod [mailto:raxelrod@gwu.edu]
    Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 5:51 PM
    To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
    Subject: Re: [MG-ED-DV] Quick and Dirty--LONG


  • 3.  Quick and Dirty--LONG

    Posted 04-08-2002 11:20
    Why do we continue to do it? I suspect there are many like David who
    "give this place courses that resemble what they want me to teach (and
    them to learn)". I have seen, and presented, much the same in the
    corporate setting. Giving them what we think they want. Is it only the
    instructors who feel this way? What do the administrators of our
    institutions think? Weren't at least some of them in our place at one
    time? Did not they feel the same as we do? Did they change as they
    moved up the ladder? Or do they still think as we do, only remain
    silent?

    Jerry Harvey shared some interesting insights in his "Abileen Paradox",
    which explores the mismanagement of agreement. He shares how we can
    collectively be swept along in a decision, each thinking that the other
    is in favor, when in fact no one supports the decision in the first
    place. Is that what we are guilty of here? Have we truly tried to
    dialogue with our own staffs? Jack Ring suggests "a dialog between
    academics and the "corporate university" counterparts". There is merit
    in that, Jack. But shouldn't we first do the internal dialog?

    Part of the problem, I believe, is that we have trained our leaders so
    well (actually, so poorly) that they only recognize as "education" or
    "learning" that which they were exposed to themselves. If they went
    through "management training" of the sort we are describing, they will
    identify with just that. It is almost like the imprinting process with
    the duckling that was taken from its parent and trained by humans. It
    bonded with and followed the only thing it knew.

    I would like to think that there are others in oversight positions who
    feel the same. Maybe it is they who need our support to bring about
    change.
    Bob

    "Ruth H. Axelrod" wrote:
    > <snip>
    They have to find the answers for and within themselves. We don't want
    to tell them that and they don't want to hear it!
    <snip>
    > So, what we can do to help them? And, are we doing it?
    <snip>


    >and Fearon, David (Management)" wrote:
    <snip>
    I have to give this place courses that resemble what they want me to
    teach
    > (and them to learn), but that, in action, hardly resemble how I teach and how they learn.