Corporations can't vote. Churches can't vote. Their members can.
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Regards,
Fred Nickols
Managing Partner
Distance Consulting, LLC
nickols@att.net
www.nickols.us
"Assistance at A Distance"
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From: Jack Ring <
jring@AMUG.ORG>
>
> Fred,
> Good points, but OOOPS, who is this 'they' who can't vote?
> Jack
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:22 PM
> Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: Anthropomorphising Groups, Societies, Organisations
>
>
> > Well, FWIW, I don't have any quarrel with saying something like "our team
> > won" or "our company is a leader in its field" or any number of other,
> > similar statements. They are verifiable assertions. I would have trouble
> > with statements like "our team believes in itself" or "our company shows
> > compassion toward its employees." These latter statements attribute human
> > characteristics to non-human entities.
> >
> > As for a contract between you and the school where you work, there can
> > indeed be such a contract, legal and binding, because the school is or is
> > part of a legal entity and can in fact enter into binding contracts, own
> > property, etc. (No, they can't vote - at least not yet.)
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Fred Nickols
> > Managing Partner
> > Distance Consulting, LLC
> >
nickols@att.net
> >
www.nickols.us
> >
> > "Assistance at A Distance"
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: "Bolman, Lee G." <
BolmanL@UMKC.EDU>
> >>
> >> Would it be an incorrect anthropomorphism to assert, for example, that
> >> "Our team
> >> won"? Or would it only become incorrect if the assertion were expanded
> >> to
> >> something like, "Our team really wanted to win"? And, if you're correct
> >> that
> >> individuals can't have contracts with society, does that also mean that
> >> there
> >> can be no contract between you and the school where you work?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Lee
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Management Education and Development Discussion
> >> [mailto:
MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Romie Littrell
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:43 PM
> >> To:
MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
> >> Subject: Anthropomorphising Groups, Societies, Organisations
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I’m critiquing a research paper by a post-graduate student who has
> >> referenced
> >> a quotation from an article by Gray, Owen & Adams (1996) in which they
> >> anthropomorphise “society”, explaining society as “a series of social
> >> contracts between members of society and society itself”. Society is a
> >> network
> >> of various kinds of linkages where people gather to do things. Society is
> >> not a
> >> conscious entity that does things of its own volition. Moreover, the
> >> things done
> >> there are transactions that occur in large numbers, at the volition of
> >> many
> >> people and institutions, motivated by a diverse array of reasons for
> >> engaging in
> >> them. People tell me what groups, societies, organisations did today, why
> >> it did
> >> that, what it is afraid of, what it is struggling to do, or what external
> >> influences are preventing it from accomplishing its intent. None of these
> >> statements is true. To re-emphasise, an organisation, group, society, or
> >> market
> >> is a place where people gather to do things, not a conscious entity that
> >> does
> >> things of its own volition that can be analysed as if it were a human
> >> being.
> >>
> >> Any agreement, disagreement, other ideas?
> >>
> >> Gray, R, Owen, D., & Adams, C. (1996). Accounting and Accountability;
> >> Changes
> >> and Challenges in Corporate Social and Environmental Reporting, Harlow:
> >> UK:
> >> Prentice-Hall Europe.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Do not accustom yourself to use big words for little matters.
> >>
> >> -Samuel Johnson
> >>
> >> Romie F. Littrell, BA, MBA,PhD, FIAIR, An fánaí fiáin
> >> AUT Business School N.Z.,
romie.littrell@aut.ac.nz
> >>
http://www.romielittrellpubs.homestead.com/
> >>
http://www.crossculturalcentre.homestead.com/
> >> Facilitator, Leadership & Management in Sub-Sahara Africa Conferences
> >> Contents copyright Romie F. Littrell
> >>
> >>
> >>