Jeff: Don't be embarrassed- if what Charles had done was what you thought he had, I think it was very honourable of you to jump to your colleague's defense- in a very public way. I think Hank would be grateful to know that you think that highly of him and would go to bat for him. We should all be that fortunate to have that kind of respect.
Deborah Nixon
----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas, Jeff
To:
MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: Followership
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas, Jeff
To: 'Charles Wankel '
Cc: '
hsims@rhsmith.umd.edu'
Sent: 4/15/2002 2:37 PM
Subject: RE: Followership
Charles
I am embarrassed and sorry for my misunderstanding. I read the first
line about "deep offense", and "ineffectual selfpromotion" and thought
you were making a completely different point than the one you did. Yes,
I need to lighten up, and will begin to diet immediately. I am
obviously confused due to the divided loyalty imposed on me by UMD
playing IU in the recent NCAA final.
Please accept my unreserved apology
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Wankel
To:
MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
Sent: 4/15/2002 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: Followership
Jeff,
Hank is a friend of Mg-Ed-Dv and mine. I meant to help him by
building up more interest in his book, THE NEW SUPERLEADERSHIP, which I
consider very important and useful. If my New York deadpan humor was
not perceived as such by you Hoosiers in Indiana, certainly I am sorry.
Look again at what I wrote. Lighten up! I am off to look for a
"humor in the heartland" book anon!
Also, please spell check your laments before posting them in the
future.
Cybercollaborating,
Charles Wankel
Mg-Ed-Dv List Director
wankelc@optonline.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas, Jeff [mailto:
thomasjb@indiana.edu]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:11 PM
To: 'Charles Wankel '; '
MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU '
Subject: RE: Followership
Charles,
The viciousness -- albeit more implied than explicit -- of your comments
probably does not deserve the dignity of a public reply. I do not
understand why someone who cares about our community as much as you do
would
apparently allow the offense you have taken to give rise to a such an
unbalanced public comdemnation of a colleague.
Members of this list will surely recognize other postings where authors
have
guided interested parties to their own works. I think vividly of one
regular list contributor who posts comments and invariably references a
directory of his own articles. I do not resent that, and I feel sure
others
do not either -- in fact, I see it as a service to those interested in
the
topic. Yet, if your offense taken at Hank's posting is so great, why do
you
not send castigations in these other cases too?
It was Hank Sims who taught me the first responsibility of professors is
indeed to "profess." He is a man I respect as being of the utmost
personal
and academic integrity; giving of his time, his knowledge, and - yes -
his
books too. This is a man who has declined honorariums from corporate
executive education programs where there is an opportunity to earn
goodwill
and open research opportunities for his doctoral students. This is a
man
who declines first authorship on many of the papers based on his work,
in
order to publicly recognize those who take the lead on a piece of
research.
And this is a man who will happily teach the lessons of his own lifetime
of
research, especially in the field of self-leadership, followership, or
--
heavens forbid, a bestselling concept! --SuperLeadership. Self
promotion?
Only in the eyes of an ungenerous beholder.
I share this with the group not to provoke any academic squabble -- but
to
defend the honor of a man who stands besmirched by your words.
Sincerely
Jeff Thomas
PS Thank you for the other cititations you provided for those of us who
are
following this thread
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Wankel
To:
MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
Sent: 4/15/2002 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: Followership
I was greatly offended by Hank Sims ineffectual self-promotion in his
recent posting to the list. Hank if you have one of the best management
books, you should promote it more effectively. For example, I would
have provided the intriguing link at:
http://www.inform.umd.edu/News/Diamondback/archives/2001/06/21/news4.htm
l
where it is explained:
A superleader "eads others to lead themselves. Superleaders are "super"
because their strength is based on the wisdom and assets of many instead
of one.
And using such wonderful classroom/boardroom example such as the LA
lakers' coach, why this is a book that every member of Mg-Ed-Dv would
want!
Really Hank! How many Mg-Ed-Dv-ers know that you have what Amazon calls
"Thoroughly revised and updated editon of bestselling SuperLeadership
(more than 100,000 copies sold)."
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1576751058/qid=1018873006/sr=8-1/
ref=sr_8_67_1/103-3763349-0211850
Also, this book was reviewed in the Academy of Management Executive:
http://www.aom.pace.edu/ame/past%20issues/november%202001%20cover.htm
More on this book:
http://www.leadershipnow.com/leadershop/5105-8.html
Hey, I was intrigued that people who buy your book also buy the April
2002:
First Among Equals: How to Manage a Group of Professionals
by Patrick J. McKenna, David H. Maister
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0743225511/qid=1018873211/sr=2-1/
ref=sr_2_1/103-3763349-0211850
(If the link is broken you might have to cut and paste the end of it
into your browser url window to make it work. In any case, don't tell
the list or me about it if you can't make long urls work!)
Also,
Growing Leaders
by Steve Yearout, Gerry Miles, Richard Koonce (Contributor)
American Society for Training & Development; ISBN: 1562862898; (April
26, 2001)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1562862898/qid%3D1018873746/ref%3
Dsr%5F11%5F0%5F1/103-3763349-0211850
Mastering Self Leadership: Empowering Yourself for Personal Excellence
by Charles C. Manz, Christopher P. Neck
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0130110876/ref=pd_sim_books/103-3
763349-0211850
Filled with self-assessment questionnaires and developmental exercises.
The Leadership Challenge
by James M. Kouzes, Barry Z. Posner, Tom Peters
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0787902691/ref=pd_sim_books/103-3
763349-0211850
Jossey-Bass; ISBN: 0787902691; 1st edition (November 22, 1996)
Now, Discover Your Strengths
by Marcus Buckingham, Donald O., Ph.D. Clifton
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0743201140/ref=pd_sim_books/103-3
763349-0211850
Cybercollegially,
Charles Wankel
Mg-Ed-Dv List Director
St. John's University, New York City
wankelc@optonline.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Management Education and Development Discussion
[mailto:
MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU] On Behalf Of Hank Sims
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 9:31 PM
To:
MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
Subject: Re: MG-ED-DV - Followership
Colleagues..
One way to think about "followership" is to think about so-called
followers
as "self-leaders"... that is, individuals who have capacity and skill to
lead themselves.
My colleague Charles Manz and other associates have discussed this
in several articles and books... Our fundamental notion is that
an important role of leaders is to develop the capacity of followers
to be excellent self-leaders. I refer you to Manz & Neck,
"Mastering Self-Leadership", or, our recent book (Manz & Sims)
"The New SuperLeadership: Leading Other to Lead Themselves"...
and finally, I do recognize and apologize for the self-plug...
it;s just that we have been thinking about "followership" for
years through the lens of "self-leadership" and I am unable
to contain myself...
thanks
Hank Sims , U of Md.
hsims@rhsmith.umd.edu
www.hanksims.com