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MG-ED-DV Digest - 12 Jul 2002 to 14 Jul 2002 (#2002-149)

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    Posted 07-17-2002 01:23
    I would like to register that "one chuckle" sought by Phillip Rutherford.

    As an undergraduate, I experienced the oddity of the same message from two
    disciplines - ancient history and Old Testament studies on the one hand and
    administrative theory and specifically Herbert Simon and his treatment of
    axioms on the other - both suggested facile generalisations about ideal
    behaviour, like proverbs, tend to occur in mutually contradictory pairs.

    Context-free discussion of "leadership" tends to fall into the same
    category and deserves lampooning.

    Roger Scott

    12:31 AM 7/15/2002 -0500, you wrote:
    >There are 6 messages totalling 353 lines in this issue.
    >
    >Topics of the day:
    >
    > 1. Characterizing leaders and leadership (5)
    > 2. Characterizing leadership and leaders
    >
    >----------------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:57:09 +1000
    >From: Phillip Rutherford <robnphil@ozemail.com.au>
    >Subject: Re: Characterizing leaders and leadership
    >
    >I have been teaching leadership for over twenty years here and overseas and
    >have seen just about every theory, truism or guess about what makes a good
    >leader so I will reiterate my comment that there doesn't appear to be any
    >singular truth about leadership. Translate that whichever way you want but
    >the preponderance of theories and books about so-called exceptional leaders
    >who, on closer inspection, are in many cases diametrically opposed to each
    >other is all the proof I'm going to put forward as the basis for my comment.
    >
    >Having said that, I'd like to offer another theory, based on Jean-Marc's
    >thoughtful list of what makes up a good leader. Before I do so, however, I
    >must emphasise that this list is offered with tongue firmly planted in
    >cheek. It is not meant to be taken seriously.
    >
    >Jean-Marc gives us a "simple list of abilities that characterize strong
    >leaders" which I repeat here with my added theory:
    > >
    > > (a) the ability to quickly grasp the essentials of what's happening and
    > > formulate a "best plan" (not necessarily "THE" best and only plan, but
    > > something that contributes to positive action);
    >
    >In other words, a good leader is someone who has a short fuse and gets so
    >fed up with nobody else coming up with a plan of action that he/she gets in
    >and does it. A good leader therefore is someone with little patience and is
    >quite happy to override annointed leaders or the plans (including the plan
    >to do nothing) of others.
    >
    > >
    > > (b) flexibility of thought and an open mind that looks for and accepts
    > > alternatives, the unconventional or simply the possible, that accepts and
    > > learns from mistakes;
    >
    >A good leader is also a lateral thinker but more likely to be irrational to
    >the point of not accepting of the status quo. In many cases, the good
    >leader's impatience sees him/her inventing solutions just to see which one
    >works. Unfortunately at times these solutions have already been discarded as
    >causing too much collateral damage but, to a good leader, collateral damage
    >is something that others clean up.
    >
    > >
    > > (c) enough self-worth and self-assurance to share leadership and welcome
    > > other, possibly better input;
    > >
    >This point emphasises the fact that a good leader has a huge ego, but not
    >the patience to wait until a good plan an innovative solution comes to
    >mind - he/she has to ask others to help out. This intimates that he/she is
    >prepared to take the risk of rushing out ahead of the pack but needs to
    >confirm that the decision to do so was the right one. Egotistical with a
    >touch of self-doubt.
    >
    > > (d) the ability to establish and maintain effective interpersonal
    > > relations for good leader-follower dynamics; and
    > >
    >An impatient egoist will generally be the one who measures the quality of
    >interpersonal relations against his/her own criteria therefore, like all
    >communications processes, he/she is the one who says whether or not the
    >relations are effective. A good follower never agrees that everything is
    >working at its optimum level (especially interpersonal relationships and
    >communications) but a pushy egotistical leader probably wouldn't listen
    >anyway.
    >
    > > (e) the capacity to deal with risk and uncertainty.
    > >
    >Risk management is all about either avoiding risk, minimising it, deflecting
    >it to others, or accepting it. The timeframe and the urgency of the task
    >will determine which of these management techniques is used. But, if we have
    >a pushy, egotistical, impatient non-communicator then quite often he/she
    >will be a risk taker, but the self-doubter in him/her could see the need to
    >share the risk with others, especially the risk that the plan won't work or,
    >it will work but no-one will notice.
    >
    >So, in summary, a good leader is someone with a high opinion of him/herself,
    >is impatient with the status-quo, is prepared to override established
    >communications channels (or ignore them altogether), and is a dangerous risk
    >taker with a certain amount of self-doubt. Hmm. Don't think I'd like to be
    >known as a good leader then.
    >
    >If you've read all the way to here I hope I hear at least one chuckle.
    >
    >Phil Rutherford
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 09:52:19 -0400
    >From: Charles Wankel <wankelc@optonline.net>
    >Subject: Re: Characterizing leaders and leadership
    >
    >From: NIREN SANGANI [mailto:nirensangani@hotmail.com]
    >
    >With Respect
    >
    >Why no one has covered the Financial aspect to become a True Leader ,
    >every
    >leader whether in an organisation or in any other field always has a
    >good
    >financial support of his own or from outside.,Financial Independence (
    >to my
    >little knowledge) nowadays, is the major factor for any successful
    >leadership, besides the inherent and external capabilities.
    >
    >If wrongly observed, Can you please check me ?
    >
    >Best Regards
    >
    >niren
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:02:28 -0600
    >From: Gary Lundquist <garyl@market-engineering.com>
    >Subject: Re: Characterizing leaders and leadership
    >
    >Colleagues,
    >
    >Thank you all for your ongoing contributions to this thread. Some lurkers
    >are still just lurking.
    >
    >Phil Rutherford suggests there is no truth about leadership.
    >
    >I'd tend to agree that there are not absolute truths. Both leadership and
    >context for leadership vary too much.
    >
    >I've developed over the years a method for characterizing things and
    >processes. I call it "Intrinsics".
    > I develop characteristics as nouns.
    > Then for each case, I modify the nouns with adjectives that represent
    >the specific instance or situation.
    > To organize the nouns, I create four categories of description that
    >ensure a full characterization.
    >So to describe a product:
    > Features (What it is or does): Size
    > Capabilities (what one can do with it): Catch fish
    > Benefits (results of meeting needs with it): Feed oneself
    > Intangibles (image and reputation): Brand image
    >
    >As I follow this dialog, I find lots of nouns and many useful adjectives. I
    >still struggle with naming four category headings that grow from basic
    >attributes up to inspiration/genius.
    > My first pass was:
    > Presence
    > Practice
    > Perception
    > Passion
    >I don't think this begins to capture leadership.
    >
    >The point is that I'm attempting to characterize leadership in a way that
    >forces me to think beyond the obvious. At the same time, I'm trying for
    >something complete enough to characterize leadership (good, bad,
    >indifferent) in any situation.
    >
    >My method for products is amazingly powerful for marketing. I hope to find
    >something just as useful for leadership.
    >
    >Best,
    >
    >Gary
    >----------------------------
    >
    >The only way to manage change... is with change.(tm)
    >
    >Gary Lundquist - The Accelerator
    >303-840-9929 www.market-engineering.com
    >garyl@market-engineering.com
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:45:05 +1000
    >From: "MARTIN, Amanda" <Amanda.Martin@qed.qld.gov.au>
    >Subject: Re: Characterizing leaders and leadership
    >
    >Hi all
    >
    >As a lurker who has been involved in leader development for 8 years and
    >around 4,000 people, I agree that there is no absolute truth about
    >leadership that I can write.
    >
    >However, I can almost immediately tell a good one when I see them in action,
    >either in the workplace or in a leadership program. They shine.
    >
    >I think it's difficult for us to put into the written word what is
    >attractive about them as leaders. I think it's like the vision thing - as
    >soon as you put it into writing, it loses something and others then respond
    >to the words, and not the spirit behind the words. So it's experiential for
    >me.
    >
    >warm regards
    >
    >Amanda
    >
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: Gary Lundquist [mailto:garyl@market-engineering.com]
    >Sent: Monday, 15 July 2002 8:02 AM
    >To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
    >Subject: Re: Characterizing leaders and leadership
    >
    >
    >Colleagues,
    >
    >Thank you all for your ongoing contributions to this thread. Some lurkers
    >are still just lurking.
    >
    >Phil Rutherford suggests there is no truth about leadership.
    >
    >I'd tend to agree that there are not absolute truths. Both leadership and
    >context for leadership vary too much.
    >
    >I've developed over the years a method for characterizing things and
    >processes. I call it "Intrinsics".
    > I develop characteristics as nouns.
    > Then for each case, I modify the nouns with adjectives that represent
    >the specific instance or situation.
    > To organize the nouns, I create four categories of description that
    >ensure a full characterization.
    >So to describe a product:
    > Features (What it is or does): Size
    > Capabilities (what one can do with it): Catch fish
    > Benefits (results of meeting needs with it): Feed oneself
    > Intangibles (image and reputation): Brand image
    >
    >As I follow this dialog, I find lots of nouns and many useful adjectives. I
    >still struggle with naming four category headings that grow from basic
    >attributes up to inspiration/genius.
    > My first pass was:
    > Presence
    > Practice
    > Perception
    > Passion
    >I don't think this begins to capture leadership.
    >
    >The point is that I'm attempting to characterize leadership in a way that
    >forces me to think beyond the obvious. At the same time, I'm trying for
    >something complete enough to characterize leadership (good, bad,
    >indifferent) in any situation.
    >
    >My method for products is amazingly powerful for marketing. I hope to find
    >something just as useful for leadership.
    >
    >Best,
    >
    >Gary
    >----------------------------
    >
    >The only way to manage change... is with change.(tm)
    >
    >Gary Lundquist - The Accelerator
    >303-840-9929 www.market-engineering.com
    >garyl@market-engineering.com
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:35:40 -0600
    >From: Gary Lundquist <garyl@market-engineering.com>
    >Subject: Re: Characterizing leadership and leaders
    >
    >Colleagues,
    >
    >George Graen wrote, " If you seek to be seen as a leader in your
    >organization, build, inherit or fall into a well developed partnership
    >network."
    >
    >By your note, George, I would conclude that relationships are the key to
    >leadership. Or perhaps more conservatively, that leaders succeed in large
    >part by developing relationships.
    >
    >A few years ago, I consulted for British Petroleum, in their internal
    >technology group. They asked me to find out how their customers (inside BP)
    >chose their service providers. I did the required market research, and drew
    >the following figure:
    >
    > Relationships
    > >> <<
    > >> >>
    >Trust Opportunities
    > << <<
    > << <<
    > Performance
    >
    >At the time, I didn't think much about it. Later, I had to write a whole
    >book about it. I call this "the basic opportunity system". Simply stated,
    >it says that:
    > Relationships deliver opportunities.
    > Opportunities enable relationships.
    >
    >If we don't "do" relationships, we find ourselves without opportunities.
    >Now George would say, we also find ourselves without followers.
    >
    >I must agree. It seems my system for marketing is a system for leadership.
    >Fascinating.
    >
    >Thanks George.
    >----------------------------
    >Pre-planning accelerates planning accelerates performance.
    > Strategic Pre-planning (Rich Visioning)
    > Adaptive Planning (Businesses, products)
    > Precise Performance (Strategies, tactics)
    >Leadership accelerates management accelerates operations.
    >
    >Gary Lundquist - The Accelerator
    >303-840-9929 www.market-engineering.com
    >garyl@market-engineering.com
    >
    >------------------------------
    >
    >Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:44:50 EDT
    >From: George Graen <Lmxlotus@aol.com>
    >Subject: Re: Characterizing leaders and leadership
    >
    >Phil,
    >
    >I strongly agree with your experience-based conclusions regarding "Romantic
    >Leadership". But, I just as strongly disagree that we know nothing about the
    >partnership based augmentation of team influence that we call LMX leadership.
    >
    >According to our view, LMX leadership resides in teams of two or more and is
    >defined as an increment in influence contributed by team partnerships.
    >
    >In a military squad context, it is the difference between a squad of
    >strangers and a squad of partners: the strangers only do their jobs and the
    >partners do their jobs and more. Moreover, the former perform as expected
    >and the latter exceed expectations.
    >
    >GBG
    >/jag
    >George Graen, Ph.D.
    >University of Louisiana Lafayette
    >Management Department
    >(479) 631-9394
    >(479) 631-9365 (Fax)
    >lmxlotus@aol.com
    >
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    >
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