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  • 1.  What would ...??

    Posted 04-03-1998 12:26
    Fresh from the shower, I arrive with new questions.

    What would an organization that did not need management look like?


    What would an organization that did not want management look like?


    What is it about the sound of falling water that frees up thought?

    ______________________
    Great Optimism,

    Dutch Driver
    Abilene, TX
    Hm. Telephone: 915.698.7217
    mailto:ddriver@cs1.mcm.edu


  • 2.  What would ...??

    Posted 04-03-1998 13:42
    Actually, that's the sort of question that Abe Maslow addressed years ago
    in his book, EUPSYCHIAN MANAGEMENT, in which Maslow asks what it would be
    like to be a manager is a "self-actualized" organization. Imagine 50
    people, all "self-actualized," all doing what was within them to be doing,
    all thoroughly enjoying themselves doing it, and you're their boss. How
    would you manage? Who knows, maybe Maslow got the idea in the shower.

    Larry E. Pate
    University of Wisconsin-Madison


    At 11:25 AM 4/3/98 -0600, you wrote:
    >Fresh from the shower, I arrive with new questions.
    >
    > What would an organization that did not need management look like?
    >
    >
    > What would an organization that did not want management look like?
    >
    >
    > What is it about the sound of falling water that frees up thought?
    >
    >______________________
    >Great Optimism,
    >
    >Dutch Driver
    >Abilene, TX
    >Hm. Telephone: 915.698.7217
    >mailto:ddriver@cs1.mcm.edu
    >


  • 3.  What would ...??

    Posted 04-03-1998 15:56
    Great questions, Dutch!

    I'd attempt an answer, but the shower keeps flooding my modem!

    Emily Schultheiss
    Why settle for surviving...when you could be thriving?


  • 4.  What would ...??

    Posted 04-03-1998 17:20
    Great questions, and fun reply.
    Perhaps, there is a light in the woods.
    Here at MIT we are talking about not just suviving in the competitive
    global marketplace, but so when you do, what will you do. For us the
    answer is contribute to civilization. This is what we expect of ourselves,
    and of our students. Interestingly, in order to this we are striving to
    move our students from preparation for the latter of Dutch's organizations
    (doesn't want to be managed) to the former (doesn't need to be), and maybe
    ourselves too at the
    same time.
    And the journey is at least half the fun.
    For me it goes back to a model I have offered before:
    consistency (read integrity if you prefer) leads to trust, which leads to
    risk-taking which leads to creativity which leads to innovation.
    Innovation is rarely truely managed, but it is a real contribution.
    Just my two cents worth on a Friday afternoon, may be I am all wet.
    All the best,
    Chris

    >Great questions, Dutch!
    >
    >I'd attempt an answer, but the shower keeps flooding my modem!
    >
    >Emily Schultheiss
    >Why settle for surviving...when you could be thriving?


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  • 5.  What would ...??

    Posted 04-04-1998 00:16
    The correct analogy is to the developmentally appropriate approach to early
    childhood development. Developmentally appropriate teachers set out
    various activities in which children might engage and then they let the
    children self-select into them. It is the same with modern management
    practice. Ideally, someone(s) is (are) concerned with issues of control,
    risk, strategy, performance and renewal and they are involved in
    establishing the appropriate boundaries.




    At 05:20 PM 4/3/98 -0500, Christopher Pratt wrote:
    >Great questions, and fun reply.
    >Perhaps, there is a light in the woods.
    >Here at MIT we are talking about not just suviving in the competitive
    >global marketplace, but so when you do, what will you do. For us the
    >answer is contribute to civilization. This is what we expect of ourselves,
    >and of our students. Interestingly, in order to this we are striving to
    >move our students from preparation for the latter of Dutch's organizations
    >(doesn't want to be managed) to the former (doesn't need to be), and maybe
    >ourselves too at the
    >same time.
    >And the journey is at least half the fun.
    >For me it goes back to a model I have offered before:
    >consistency (read integrity if you prefer) leads to trust, which leads to
    >risk-taking which leads to creativity which leads to innovation.
    >Innovation is rarely truely managed, but it is a real contribution.
    >Just my two cents worth on a Friday afternoon, may be I am all wet.
    >All the best,
    >Chris
    >
    >>Great questions, Dutch!
    >>
    >>I'd attempt an answer, but the shower keeps flooding my modem!
    >>
    >>Emily Schultheiss
    >>Why settle for surviving...when you could be thriving?
    >
    >
    >............................................................................
    >Christopher Pratt, EdD
    >Director
    >Career Services and Pre-Professional Advising
    >Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    >77 Massachusetts Avenue, Room 12-170-187
    >Cambridge, MA 02139
    >voice: 617-253-4733
    >fax: 617-253-8457
    >cpratt@mit.edu
    >http://web.mit.edu/career/www
    >CHRISPRATT@worldnet.att.net
    >http://web.mit.edu/cpratt
    >
    >April 6th is Tartan Day!
    >


  • 6.  What would ...??

    Posted 04-04-1998 16:12
    Dutch Driver wrote:

    > Fresh from the shower, I arrive with new questions.
    >
    > What would an organization that did not need management look like?
    >
    > What would an organization that did not want management look like?
    >
    > What is it about the sound of falling water that frees up thought?
    >
    > ______________________
    > Great Optimism,
    >
    > Dutch Driver
    > Abilene, TX
    > Hm. Telephone: 915.698.7217
    > mailto:ddriver@cs1.mcm.edu

    Could this be what Drath and paulus were driving at in their
    small book? Leadership without the normal trappings of what
    we commonly call management?
    Jim Dobbins


  • 7.  What would ...??

    Posted 04-04-1998 16:22
    I like Chris Platt's model:
    <snip>
    consistency (read integrity if you prefer) leads to trust, which leads to
    risk-taking which leads to creativity which leads to innovation.

    I always assumed that no one wanted to be managed, being somewhat a
    maverick myself. But I have run into a number of folks who--whether by
    nature or learning--crave management. Your model makes sense of that
    craving, Chris. I have maintained for some time that the "E" word
    (empowerment) is being used more as a weapon (to shift the blame) than as a
    tool (to engender creativity and innovation). Empowerment without
    consistency does not work--for lots of reasons, including that without
    consistency in purpose and direction, how can people make decisions. But I
    had never thought about the middle links in that model
    (trust-->risk-taking). Thanks.

    Emily Schultheiss
    Why settle for surviving...when you could be thriving?