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  • 1.  PhD Supervision

    Posted 06-08-2004 08:02
    Dear Colleagues,

    Sometime in the near future I will be embarking on supervising (or co-) my
    first PhD student. I am excited about it and looking forward to the
    experience. Since this is one skill our (and they may be few exceptions)
    academic programs do not prepare us for--at least formally--I felt the need
    for researching and identifying some resources that can assist a novice such
    as myself with this process.

    I was wondering if you had any recommendations of a solid text that is
    helpful in this regard. My preference would be for a text that is:
    1. Not too long...
    2. Combines theoretical/research approach with experiential/first-hand
    accounts
    3. Specific to Management (or at least Social Sciences).

    URLs of web-sites with relevant information would be appreciated as well.

    Thanks for advance for your generosity,


    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Jacob Eisenberg, Ph.D.
    Department of Business Administration,
    Quinn School of Business,
    University College Dublin,
    Belfield, Dublin 4,
    Ireland

    Tel: +353-1-716 4774
    Fax: +353-1-716 4762
    Email: Jacob.eisenberg@ucd.ie
    http://www.ucd.ie/busadmin/


  • 2.  PhD Supervision

    Posted 06-08-2004 11:00
    Jacob: may I suggest that one of the best ways to learn what PHD
    students need from a supervisor is to just ask them! Sure beats an
    academic tome any day.

    Deborah Nixon
    University of Toronto
    704 Windermere Ave
    Toronto Ont M6S 3M1
    Ph: 416-763-6985
    Fax: 416-763-3361



    -----Original Message-----
    From: Management Education and Development Discussion
    [mailto:MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU] On Behalf Of Jacob
    Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 8:02 AM
    To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
    Subject: PhD Supervision


    Dear Colleagues,

    Sometime in the near future I will be embarking on supervising (or co-)
    my first PhD student. I am excited about it and looking forward to the
    experience. Since this is one skill our (and they may be few exceptions)
    academic programs do not prepare us for--at least formally--I felt the
    need for researching and identifying some resources that can assist a
    novice such as myself with this process.

    I was wondering if you had any recommendations of a solid text that is
    helpful in this regard. My preference would be for a text that is: 1.
    Not too long... 2. Combines theoretical/research approach with
    experiential/first-hand accounts 3. Specific to Management (or at least
    Social Sciences).

    URLs of web-sites with relevant information would be appreciated as
    well.

    Thanks for advance for your generosity,


    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Jacob Eisenberg, Ph.D.
    Department of Business Administration,
    Quinn School of Business,
    University College Dublin,
    Belfield, Dublin 4,
    Ireland

    Tel: +353-1-716 4774
    Fax: +353-1-716 4762
    Email: Jacob.eisenberg@ucd.ie
    http://www.ucd.ie/busadmin/


  • 3.  PhD Supervision

    Posted 06-09-2004 05:14
    Hi Jacob,

    I recommend that you read vol. 1 of LMX Leadership: The Series (2003),
    Information Age Publishing. This book will give you our approach to TLC of doctoral
    students.


  • 4.  PhD Supervision

    Posted 06-09-2004 10:27
    Jacob - Pugh and Phillips "How to get a PhD" may be useful - and
    co-supervising with an experienced colleague is brilliant!
    Sue
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Jacob" <Jacob.Eisenberg@ucd.ie>
    To: <MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
    Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 1:02 PM
    Subject: PhD Supervision


    > Dear Colleagues,
    >
    > Sometime in the near future I will be embarking on supervising (or co-) my
    > first PhD student. I am excited about it and looking forward to the
    > experience. Since this is one skill our (and they may be few exceptions)
    > academic programs do not prepare us for--at least formally--I felt the
    need
    > for researching and identifying some resources that can assist a novice
    such
    > as myself with this process.
    >
    > I was wondering if you had any recommendations of a solid text that is
    > helpful in this regard. My preference would be for a text that is:
    > 1. Not too long...
    > 2. Combines theoretical/research approach with experiential/first-hand
    > accounts
    > 3. Specific to Management (or at least Social Sciences).
    >
    > URLs of web-sites with relevant information would be appreciated as well.
    >
    > Thanks for advance for your generosity,
    >
    >
    > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    > Jacob Eisenberg, Ph.D.
    > Department of Business Administration,
    > Quinn School of Business,
    > University College Dublin,
    > Belfield, Dublin 4,
    > Ireland
    >
    > Tel: +353-1-716 4774
    > Fax: +353-1-716 4762
    > Email: Jacob.eisenberg@ucd.ie
    > http://www.ucd.ie/busadmin/


  • 5.  PhD Supervision

    Posted 06-09-2004 14:53
    Jacob:

    When I was about supervise my first Ph.D. student I went through the same
    anxiety that you are experiencing, but could not find any "cookbook" type
    reference that would help me, and would apply to all situations. After 20+
    completed Ph.Ds, and five current students under my supervision, I will
    describe the process that I have been using and we have adopted in our
    department for all Ph.D. supervisors.

    You will notice that
    a) we do not pre-define the student's research area, but give them
    latitude to do it while guiding them
    through their thought process,
    b) we put very high emphasis on our PhDs, probably with a higher
    degree of rigor than many other
    programs,
    c) we are in the college of engineering and the culture and
    requirements are different from business
    schools,
    d) we offer only MS and PhD degrees (no undergraduate) in our
    department, and see our Ph.Ds as the
    emerging leaders for managing technology in an increasingly
    technology-driven world, thus treat them
    accordingly.

    Our model worked for me very well over the years, and it has been successful
    for all of our faculty who adopted it for the last 15-16 years; but I can not
    say that it is universally adoptable.

    Here is the process:

    1. Interview each Ph.D. applicant for an hour before the
    accept/reject decision (For international applicants,
    modify this step by making the accept/reject decision based on
    submitted documents, and schedule the
    interview after their arrival)

    2. In the interview, concentrate on
    a) the student's career goals and objectives,
    b) research interests,
    c) what thoughts he/she has given to the approach to address
    his/her research interests; what
    methods he/she might be considering to use; how the
    research questions are likely to be
    formulated, etc.

    The goal at this stage is to determine both the level of maturity and
    intellectual preparation of the student to
    conduct Ph.D. research, and to identify the best match for his Ph.D.
    supervisor.

    3. Tell the student to start developing and refining research ideas
    in several independent studies with the
    department faculty, while taking courses in the program.

    4. Once the research topic, scope and boundaries are defined, send
    the student to discuss the topic, in
    detail, with faculty members who might have the best match with
    that research. Identify the Ph.D>
    supervisor accordingly.

    5. If I agree to be the student's supervisor, I set the guidelines at
    the beginning:
    a) I am committing 500-1,000 hours of my time to him/her, and
    I expect several times of that effort
    from him/her over the next few years
    b) The student will develop creative ideas and work on
    addressing them, but he/she will follow my instructions to
    the letter in doing so.
    c) I will be available to discuss problems and challenges on
    a 24/7 basis. The student can call me at
    the office, home or my cell phone if a crisis pops up.

    6. I set up regular meetings with the student, starting with a
    one-hour long meeting every two weeks, then
    gradually increasing it to a two-hour meeting every weeks. I
    discuss the research progress in detail, see
    what the student has done, test the model, change the direction
    as needed, focus on the parts that need
    to be studied further, etc.

    7. Because I always have multiple Ph.D. students at various stages of
    their work, I also bring them together
    once every three months in a day-long meeting. The students bring
    a written description of where they are
    in their research, and make a half-hour PowerPoint presentation on
    their work. As a group, they challenge
    the presenter, make constructive comments, offer help as needed,
    share literature with each other, and
    do an earlier evaluation of the draft papers that may be in
    preparation for submission to refereed
    conferences and journals. The students who have taken their
    comprehensive exams, or presented their
    research proposals, or defended their dissertations, discuss their
    experiences with the rest of the team.

    8. When the students complete their research proposals (typically a
    100-page document) for presentation,
    dissertations (typically a 300-page document) for defense, or
    papers for conferences or journals, I first
    send them to my editorial assistant to do the editorial checks,
    then usually have three cycles for going
    over the document and modifying it, as needed, before it is
    submitted to the committee members for
    their comments prior to the formal meeting with them, or to a
    journal for the refereeing process.

    I hope these are helpful.

    Dundar F. Kocaoglu

    =============================================================================
    Dundar F. Kocaoglu, Ph.D., Fellow, IEEE
    e-mail:kocaoglu@etm.pdx.edu
    Professor & Chair, Engineering and Technology Management Dept.
    http://www.etm.pdx.edu
    and President & CEO, PICMET
    http://www.picmet.org
    Portland State University
    Phone: +1 503-725-4660
    Portland, OR 97207-0751, USA
    Fax: +1 503-725-4667
    =============================================================================

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Management Education and Development Discussion
    [mailto:MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU] On Behalf Of Jacob
    Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 5:02 AM
    To: MG-ED-DV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
    Subject: PhD Supervision

    Dear Colleagues,

    Sometime in the near future I will be embarking on supervising (or co-) my
    first PhD student. I am excited about it and looking forward to the
    experience. Since this is one skill our (and they may be few exceptions)
    academic programs do not prepare us for--at least formally--I felt the need
    for researching and identifying some resources that can assist a novice such
    as myself with this process.

    I was wondering if you had any recommendations of a solid text that is
    helpful in this regard. My preference would be for a text that is:
    1. Not too long...
    2. Combines theoretical/research approach with experiential/first-hand
    accounts 3. Specific to Management (or at least Social Sciences).

    URLs of web-sites with relevant information would be appreciated as well.

    Thanks for advance for your generosity,


    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Jacob Eisenberg, Ph.D.
    Department of Business Administration,
    Quinn School of Business,
    University College Dublin,
    Belfield, Dublin 4,
    Ireland

    Tel: +353-1-716 4774
    Fax: +353-1-716 4762
    Email: Jacob.eisenberg@ucd.ie
    http://www.ucd.ie/busadmin/


  • 6.  PhD Supervision

    Posted 06-15-2004 17:32
    From: SDCARLSON@aol.com [mailto:SDCARLSON@aol.com]

    I've followed this thread with some interest and really appreciate the
    references and insights provided by the group. My initial take on this is
    perhaps
    somewhat different. It is easy for us to get caught up in the academic
    spectacle that is the process surrounding the degree. As such, we tend to
    look for
    guidance in texts, references and published materials that lay out for us
    the
    reasonable expectations, systems, structures and protocols associated with
    our
    responsibilities.

    I hope what doesn't get lost is the view from another plane, that holds that
    the highest and most noble task of supervising PhD candidates (or perhaps
    any
    other student) for that matter is to protect their love of learning from the
    egos that wrap themselves in the misery of academic rules. Rules, that once
    they serve their purpose of assuring the candidate that at least half of his
    or
    her success relies in understanding and playing by other people's rules,
    have
    limited application in their ability to add value to the world.

    As such, I've always thought it my responsibility to thoroughly outline
    expectations (mine, the system's and the students), challenge the candidate
    to
    expect more of him/herself than anyone could possibly ever expect from them,
    understand and communicate the inevitability of their frustrations, and
    whole-heartedly support them if the above conditions are met.

    Overly simplistic? Perhaps - but when I think back on my mentors, those
    that
    where mentors in the true sense of that world seemed to exhibit the above
    qualities. I never found this perspective in a text - so I thought I would
    share
    with the group and now quietly go back to my watching post below the
    horizon.

    Chris


    Chris R. Carlson, D.O., Ph.D.