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  • 1.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-27-2005 14:46
    Workforce Week (www.workforceonline.com) has an interesting bit about
    performance appraisals. See the link below. Of special interest are the
    comments people are making in response to the piece.

    Managing people
    8 ***** "Socking It to Employees" at Performance Evaluation
    Time *****
    http://email.workforceonline.com/cgi-bin2/DM/y/engQ0Dh4cg0CKs0CapU0En

    One manager wants to use the annual performance evaluation time
    to "sock it to 'em"--bringing up issues of poor performance to
    employees. Is this fair to employees, or does this prevent
    employees from improving before evaluation time, leaving them
    with negative evaluations that could have been avoided?


    Regards,

    Fred Nickols
    nickols@att.net
    www.nickols.us


  • 2.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-28-2005 11:18
    The fundamental problem of traditional performance reviews is the
    long lag time in the feedback loop. Even if the feedback is helpful,
    or positive, and well thought through and presented, it is months late.

    Everything we know about 'learning' and behavior change says that the
    feedback needs to be obtained soon after the event. In the case of
    work activity decisions/actions, I'd say 24 hours is a good time, but
    some might think it should be sooner.

    To bring up issues of poor p;performance months after the event would
    require great care - the subjected employee may no longer recall any
    significant details. the discussion must be focused on what could be
    done better, and how it might be done better, and not a case of
    'don't do that again.'

    But we know that. Even if the manager cited below did understand
    these things well enough to behave rationally, the feedback would
    still be woefully late to the party.

    My take: The traditional annual performance review paradigm is not,
    and perhaps never was, effective. Time for something else.

    Jay

    On Sep 27, 2005, at 1:45 PM, Fred Nickols wrote:

    > Workforce Week (www.workforceonline.com) has an interesting bit about
    > performance appraisals. See the link below. Of special interest
    > are the
    > comments people are making in response to the piece.
    >
    > Managing people
    > 8 ***** "Socking It to Employees" at Performance Evaluation
    > Time *****
    > http://email.workforceonline.com/cgi-bin2/DM/y/engQ0Dh4cg0CKs0CapU0En
    >
    > One manager wants to use the annual performance evaluation time
    > to "sock it to 'em"--bringing up issues of poor performance to
    > employees. Is this fair to employees, or does this prevent
    > employees from improving before evaluation time, leaving them
    > with negative evaluations that could have been avoided?
    >
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Fred Nickols
    > nickols@att.net
    > www.nickols.us
    >
    >

    Jay Warner
    Principal Scientist
    Warner Consulting, Inc.
    4444 North Green Bay Road
    Racine, WI 53404-1216
    USA

    Ph: 262.634.9100
    FAX: 262.681.1133
    email: quality@a2q.com
    web: www.a2q.com

    The A2Q Method(tm) --- What do you want to improve today?


  • 3.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-28-2005 14:18
    Jay,

    I keep sharing this model from Gallup as the alternative:

    http://gmj.gallup.com/content/default.asp?ci=442

    It just takes a different mindset by managers regarding what the purpose of
    their position is.

    Make a Great Day!

    Gary Lear, President & CEO

    Resource Development Systems LLC
    Managing the Human Side of Business (sm)

    www.ResourceDevelopmentSystems.com

    (c) 2005 permission denied to use this post in any other forum or in any way
    other than on the discussion list that it was originally posted.


  • 4.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-28-2005 15:04
    Instead of the either-or that seems to be the presumption, how about a
    continual performance awareness sessions AND an annual assessment? Although
    the annual performance review only has done more harm than good at the
    worker bee level, this is more due to the perpetrators than to the selection
    of periodicity.

    OBTW, note that the officers have an annual performance review with the
    stockholders --- the annual report and annual meeting --- which should have
    some correlation to the performance reviews of all the worker bees.

    Of course the 'sock it to 'em' mentality is ridiculous. However, some
    people really do need some sort of jolt to get them aware of their rut, let
    alone out of it.

    cheers,

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Jay Warner" <quality@A2Q.COM>
    To: <MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU>
    Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:18 AM
    Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals


    > The fundamental problem of traditional performance reviews is the long
    > lag time in the feedback loop. Even if the feedback is helpful, or
    > positive, and well thought through and presented, it is months late.
    >
    > Everything we know about 'learning' and behavior change says that the
    > feedback needs to be obtained soon after the event. In the case of work
    > activity decisions/actions, I'd say 24 hours is a good time, but some
    > might think it should be sooner.
    >
    > To bring up issues of poor p;performance months after the event would
    > require great care - the subjected employee may no longer recall any
    > significant details. the discussion must be focused on what could be
    > done better, and how it might be done better, and not a case of 'don't do
    > that again.'
    >
    > But we know that. Even if the manager cited below did understand these
    > things well enough to behave rationally, the feedback would still be
    > woefully late to the party.
    >
    > My take: The traditional annual performance review paradigm is not, and
    > perhaps never was, effective. Time for something else.
    >
    > Jay
    >
    > On Sep 27, 2005, at 1:45 PM, Fred Nickols wrote:
    >
    >> Workforce Week (www.workforceonline.com) has an interesting bit about
    >> performance appraisals. See the link below. Of special interest are
    >> the
    >> comments people are making in response to the piece.
    >>
    >> Managing people
    >> 8 ***** "Socking It to Employees" at Performance Evaluation
    >> Time *****
    >> http://email.workforceonline.com/cgi-bin2/DM/y/engQ0Dh4cg0CKs0CapU0En
    >>
    >> One manager wants to use the annual performance evaluation time
    >> to "sock it to 'em"--bringing up issues of poor performance to
    >> employees. Is this fair to employees, or does this prevent
    >> employees from improving before evaluation time, leaving them
    >> with negative evaluations that could have been avoided?
    >>
    >>
    >> Regards,
    >>
    >> Fred Nickols
    >> nickols@att.net
    >> www.nickols.us
    >>
    >>
    >
    > Jay Warner
    > Principal Scientist
    > Warner Consulting, Inc.
    > 4444 North Green Bay Road
    > Racine, WI 53404-1216
    > USA
    >
    > Ph: 262.634.9100
    > FAX: 262.681.1133
    > email: quality@a2q.com
    > web: www.a2q.com
    >
    > The A2Q Method(tm) --- What do you want to improve today?
    >
    >


  • 5.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-28-2005 15:30
    Jay,
    Thanks for sharing this article. It provides excellent insights and
    suggestions. I have already passed it on to the participants in a
    leadership program I am conducting. I highly recommend it to others on
    our list.
    Bob Carr
    Training & Development Manager
    Wake Forest University Health Sciences
    Winston-Salem, NC

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Management Education and Development Discussion
    [mailto:MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Gary Lear
    Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 2:18 PM
    To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Jay,

    I keep sharing this model from Gallup as the alternative:

    http://gmj.gallup.com/content/default.asp?ci=442

    It just takes a different mindset by managers regarding what the purpose
    of their position is.

    Make a Great Day!

    Gary Lear, President & CEO

    Resource Development Systems LLC
    Managing the Human Side of Business (sm)

    www.ResourceDevelopmentSystems.com

    (c) 2005 permission denied to use this post in any other forum or in any
    way other than on the discussion list that it was originally posted.


  • 6.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-28-2005 19:49
    Jack Ring writes in part...

    > OBTW, note that the officers have an annual performance review with the
    > stockholders --- the annual report and annual meeting --- which should have
    > some correlation to the performance reviews of all the worker bees.

    Apparently, that is the case, Jack, if the officers so choose. I am reminded of some recent articles in the business press commenting on the offers shutting out the stockholders. As was noted so many years ago by Adolph Berle and Gardner Means, the interests of "professional" management and the stockholder often diverge and management is in control whereas the stockholders are not. So much for the myth of serving stockholder interests...

    Regards,

    Fred Nickols


  • 7.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-28-2005 20:26
    Fred,

    What corporation is not required to hold an annual meeting? How can there
    be stockholders without incorporation?

    There have been instances of officers shutting out activist stockholders
    attempting to disrupt annual meetings from the floor but officers cannot
    shut out stockholders who submit proposals when due.

    When are the stockholders not in full control of their association with the
    corporation? All they have to do is sell the stock. Their choice and
    theirs alone. The only exception are stockholders who are also officers.

    Jack
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: <nickols@att.net>
    To: <MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU>
    Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:48 PM
    Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals


    > Jack Ring writes in part...
    >
    >> OBTW, note that the officers have an annual performance review with the
    >> stockholders --- the annual report and annual meeting --- which should
    >> have
    >> some correlation to the performance reviews of all the worker bees.
    >
    > Apparently, that is the case, Jack, if the officers so choose. I am
    > reminded of some recent articles in the business press commenting on the
    > offers shutting out the stockholders. As was noted so many years ago by
    > Adolph Berle and Gardner Means, the interests of "professional" management
    > and the stockholder often diverge and management is in control whereas the
    > stockholders are not. So much for the myth of serving stockholder
    > interests...
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Fred Nickols
    >
    >


  • 8.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-29-2005 12:09
    Howdy

    I like the idea of "continual performance awareness" and THEN an annual
    summary. Wishful thinking I am afraid, because as Jay says the problem
    is feedback recency.

    As I see "coaching" getting more of the spotlight today (peer coaching,
    executive coaching, supervisory coaching etc etc) I am reminded that in
    some way effective professional/caring coaching is continual performance
    awareness. When I have had that in the last 30 yrs it may not have
    always been pleasant, but it was effective and I was not surprised at
    the end of the year because I had heard it all before and in most cases
    improved based on that hearing. This is not mention the affirmative
    coaching where I was given timely feedback about positives! Which
    ensured I would repeat or leverage that in future situations. In Asia
    trying to teach coaching ('saving face' cultural issue was at first a
    concern), one thing that helped was to get team leaders to coach the
    positives versus always framing coaching as the 'cop'.

    So I am wondering if it is 'performance appraisal' or the way they are
    labeled, systematized and trained in conjunction with the fact that we
    give very little time in developing coaching skills to everyone who has
    a responsibility to give feedback. In other words maybe its poor
    coaching or feedback skills that is the real problem, if those were up
    to speed there would be no surprises.

    CHEERS,
    Jack D. Cerva
    920-721-5486 ofc
    Neenah, WI
    People = Competitive Advantage





    -----Original Message-----
    From: Management Education and Development Discussion
    [mailto:MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jack Ring
    Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 2:04 PM
    To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals


    Instead of the either-or that seems to be the presumption, how about a
    continual performance awareness sessions AND an annual assessment?
    Although
    the annual performance review only has done more harm than good at the
    worker bee level, this is more due to the perpetrators than to the
    selection
    of periodicity.

    OBTW, note that the officers have an annual performance review with the
    stockholders --- the annual report and annual meeting --- which should
    have
    some correlation to the performance reviews of all the worker bees.

    Of course the 'sock it to 'em' mentality is ridiculous. However, some
    people really do need some sort of jolt to get them aware of their rut,
    let
    alone out of it.

    cheers,

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Jay Warner" <quality@A2Q.COM>
    To: <MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU>
    Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:18 AM
    Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals


    > The fundamental problem of traditional performance reviews is the
    long
    > lag time in the feedback loop. Even if the feedback is helpful, or
    > positive, and well thought through and presented, it is months late.
    >
    > Everything we know about 'learning' and behavior change says that the
    > feedback needs to be obtained soon after the event. In the case of
    work
    > activity decisions/actions, I'd say 24 hours is a good time, but some

    > might think it should be sooner.
    >
    > To bring up issues of poor p;performance months after the event would
    > require great care - the subjected employee may no longer recall any
    > significant details. the discussion must be focused on what could be
    > done better, and how it might be done better, and not a case of
    'don't do
    > that again.'
    >
    > But we know that. Even if the manager cited below did understand
    these
    > things well enough to behave rationally, the feedback would still be
    > woefully late to the party.
    >
    > My take: The traditional annual performance review paradigm is not,
    and
    > perhaps never was, effective. Time for something else.
    >
    > Jay
    >
    > On Sep 27, 2005, at 1:45 PM, Fred Nickols wrote:
    >
    >> Workforce Week (www.workforceonline.com) has an interesting bit about
    >> performance appraisals. See the link below. Of special interest
    are
    >> the
    >> comments people are making in response to the piece.
    >>
    >> Managing people
    >> 8 ***** "Socking It to Employees" at Performance Evaluation
    >> Time *****
    >> http://email.workforceonline.com/cgi-bin2/DM/y/engQ0Dh4cg0CKs0CapU0En
    >>
    >> One manager wants to use the annual performance evaluation time
    >> to "sock it to 'em"--bringing up issues of poor performance to
    >> employees. Is this fair to employees, or does this prevent
    >> employees from improving before evaluation time, leaving them
    >> with negative evaluations that could have been avoided?
    >>
    >>
    >> Regards,
    >>
    >> Fred Nickols
    >> nickols@att.net
    >> www.nickols.us
    >>
    >>
    >
    > Jay Warner
    > Principal Scientist
    > Warner Consulting, Inc.
    > 4444 North Green Bay Road
    > Racine, WI 53404-1216
    > USA
    >
    > Ph: 262.634.9100
    > FAX: 262.681.1133
    > email: quality@a2q.com
    > web: www.a2q.com
    >
    > The A2Q Method(tm) --- What do you want to improve today?
    >
    >


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  • 9.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-29-2005 13:08
    Credit goes to Gary Lear. I only get frustrated at the lack of
    application of these 'Duh!' level-obvious results.

    Jay
    On Sep 28, 2005, at 2:29 PM, Bob Carr wrote:

    > Jay,
    > Thanks for sharing this article. It provides excellent insights and
    > suggestions. I have already passed it on to the participants in a
    > leadership program I am conducting. I highly recommend it to
    > others on
    > our list.
    > Bob Carr
    > Training & Development Manager
    > Wake Forest University Health Sciences
    > Winston-Salem, NC
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Management Education and Development Discussion
    > [mailto:MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Gary Lear
    > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 2:18 PM
    > To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    > Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals
    >
    > Jay,
    >
    > I keep sharing this model from Gallup as the alternative:
    >
    > http://gmj.gallup.com/content/default.asp?ci=442
    >
    > It just takes a different mindset by managers regarding what the
    > purpose
    > of their position is.
    >
    > Make a Great Day!
    >
    > Gary Lear, President & CEO
    >
    > Resource Development Systems LLC
    > Managing the Human Side of Business (sm)
    >
    > www.ResourceDevelopmentSystems.com
    >
    > (c) 2005 permission denied to use this post in any other forum or
    > in any
    > way other than on the discussion list that it was originally posted.
    >
    >

    Jay Warner
    Principal Scientist
    Warner Consulting, Inc.
    4444 North Green Bay Road
    Racine, WI 53404-1216
    USA

    Ph: 262.634.9100
    FAX: 262.681.1133
    email: quality@a2q.com
    web: www.a2q.com

    The A2Q Method(tm) --- What do you want to improve today?


  • 10.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-29-2005 14:10
    Jack,

    If we are doing continual performance coaching, what would be the purpose of
    this once a year annual assessment? How would assessing past performance on an
    annual basis improve future performance? Whose assessment are we going to use;
    the manager's or the employee's? How do we deal with the discrepancy?

    If we've dealt with issues as they have arisen, what is the purpose of digging
    up the past and rehashing it again? Could this possibly cause more harm than
    good by digging up past behaviors that have already been changed? If employee
    engagement is based on a relationship between the employee and their manager,
    could going back to something that happened almost a year ago have a negative
    impact on that relationship?

    Would brining up past behavior that has changed from almost a year ago build
    trust or destroy trust between the employee and the manager? If someone kept
    bringing up your past mistakes, despite the fact that you've changed, how would
    it make you feel? Would you want to do your best for this person?

    Perhaps having a formal annual meeting is a good thing, but are there other
    issues that could be focused on that would drive future performance other than
    rehashing past performance?

    Make a Great Day!

    Gary Lear, President & CEO

    Resource Development Systems LLC
    Managing the Human Side of Business (sm)

    www.ResourceDevelopmentSystems.com

    (c) 2005 permission denied to use this post in any other forum or in any way
    other than on the discussion list that it was originally posted.


  • 11.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-29-2005 15:12
    In my experience the 'annual performance review' is not about improvement so much as it is a means of documenting a rationale for salary merit or level adjustment. If it was only a review of the year's record for that purpose then there should never be any surprises. The 'sock it to 'em' mentality is from the 'dinosaur age' and is another form of abusive authority. In my opinion, companies who continue to maintain, promote, or enable this behaviour in their management levels will soon also become extinct.
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: Management Education and Development Discussion
    [mailto:MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU]On Behalf Of Gary Lear
    Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:10 PM
    To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals


    Jack,

    If we are doing continual performance coaching, what would be the purpose of
    this once a year annual assessment? How would assessing past performance on an
    annual basis improve future performance? Whose assessment are we going to use;
    the manager's or the employee's? How do we deal with the discrepancy?

    If we've dealt with issues as they have arisen, what is the purpose of digging
    up the past and rehashing it again? Could this possibly cause more harm than
    good by digging up past behaviors that have already been changed? If employee
    engagement is based on a relationship between the employee and their manager,
    could going back to something that happened almost a year ago have a negative
    impact on that relationship?

    Would brining up past behavior that has changed from almost a year ago build
    trust or destroy trust between the employee and the manager? If someone kept
    bringing up your past mistakes, despite the fact that you've changed, how would
    it make you feel? Would you want to do your best for this person?

    Perhaps having a formal annual meeting is a good thing, but are there other
    issues that could be focused on that would drive future performance other than
    rehashing past performance?

    Make a Great Day!

    Gary Lear, President & CEO

    Resource Development Systems LLC
    Managing the Human Side of Business (sm)

    www.ResourceDevelopmentSystems.com

    (c) 2005 permission denied to use this post in any other forum or in any way
    other than on the discussion list that it was originally posted.


  • 12.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-29-2005 15:17
    Jack,
    Not wishful thinking at all. I started doing this in 1976 as a manager in
    GE and have done it in several settings since then.

    Performance awareness means that actual communication transpired between the
    performer and the person accountable for the person's results. Ideally this
    occurs several 'one minute' times during each day but must happen for at
    least ten minutes every two weeks.

    The annual appraisal is both about achievements vs. expectations (goals) and
    about what that indicates about the persons forthcoming career development
    action plan.

    The dual works like a charm. Even achieves coherence between appraisals and
    monetary rewards, making both meaningful.

    It does depend on purposeful managers --- meaning that they do not abdicate
    this responsibility to HR.

    cheers,
    Jack, the elder

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Cerva, Jack" <jcerva@KCC.COM>
    To: <MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU>
    Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:08 AM
    Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals


    > Howdy
    >
    > I like the idea of "continual performance awareness" and THEN an annual
    > summary. Wishful thinking I am afraid, because as Jay says the problem
    > is feedback recency.
    >
    > As I see "coaching" getting more of the spotlight today (peer coaching,
    > executive coaching, supervisory coaching etc etc) I am reminded that in
    > some way effective professional/caring coaching is continual performance
    > awareness. When I have had that in the last 30 yrs it may not have
    > always been pleasant, but it was effective and I was not surprised at
    > the end of the year because I had heard it all before and in most cases
    > improved based on that hearing. This is not mention the affirmative
    > coaching where I was given timely feedback about positives! Which
    > ensured I would repeat or leverage that in future situations. In Asia
    > trying to teach coaching ('saving face' cultural issue was at first a
    > concern), one thing that helped was to get team leaders to coach the
    > positives versus always framing coaching as the 'cop'.
    >
    > So I am wondering if it is 'performance appraisal' or the way they are
    > labeled, systematized and trained in conjunction with the fact that we
    > give very little time in developing coaching skills to everyone who has
    > a responsibility to give feedback. In other words maybe its poor
    > coaching or feedback skills that is the real problem, if those were up
    > to speed there would be no surprises.
    >
    > CHEERS,
    > Jack D. Cerva
    > 920-721-5486 ofc
    > Neenah, WI
    > People = Competitive Advantage
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Management Education and Development Discussion
    > [mailto:MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jack Ring
    > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 2:04 PM
    > To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    > Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals
    >
    >
    > Instead of the either-or that seems to be the presumption, how about a
    > continual performance awareness sessions AND an annual assessment?
    > Although
    > the annual performance review only has done more harm than good at the
    > worker bee level, this is more due to the perpetrators than to the
    > selection
    > of periodicity.
    >
    > OBTW, note that the officers have an annual performance review with the
    > stockholders --- the annual report and annual meeting --- which should
    > have
    > some correlation to the performance reviews of all the worker bees.
    >
    > Of course the 'sock it to 'em' mentality is ridiculous. However, some
    > people really do need some sort of jolt to get them aware of their rut,
    > let
    > alone out of it.
    >
    > cheers,
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Jay Warner" <quality@A2Q.COM>
    > To: <MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU>
    > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:18 AM
    > Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals
    >
    >
    >> The fundamental problem of traditional performance reviews is the
    > long
    >> lag time in the feedback loop. Even if the feedback is helpful, or
    >> positive, and well thought through and presented, it is months late.
    >>
    >> Everything we know about 'learning' and behavior change says that the
    >> feedback needs to be obtained soon after the event. In the case of
    > work
    >> activity decisions/actions, I'd say 24 hours is a good time, but some
    >
    >> might think it should be sooner.
    >>
    >> To bring up issues of poor p;performance months after the event would
    >> require great care - the subjected employee may no longer recall any
    >> significant details. the discussion must be focused on what could be
    >> done better, and how it might be done better, and not a case of
    > 'don't do
    >> that again.'
    >>
    >> But we know that. Even if the manager cited below did understand
    > these
    >> things well enough to behave rationally, the feedback would still be
    >> woefully late to the party.
    >>
    >> My take: The traditional annual performance review paradigm is not,
    > and
    >> perhaps never was, effective. Time for something else.
    >>
    >> Jay
    >>
    >> On Sep 27, 2005, at 1:45 PM, Fred Nickols wrote:
    >>
    >>> Workforce Week (www.workforceonline.com) has an interesting bit about
    >>> performance appraisals. See the link below. Of special interest
    > are
    >>> the
    >>> comments people are making in response to the piece.
    >>>
    >>> Managing people
    >>> 8 ***** "Socking It to Employees" at Performance Evaluation
    >>> Time *****
    >>> http://email.workforceonline.com/cgi-bin2/DM/y/engQ0Dh4cg0CKs0CapU0En
    >>>
    >>> One manager wants to use the annual performance evaluation time
    >>> to "sock it to 'em"--bringing up issues of poor performance to
    >>> employees. Is this fair to employees, or does this prevent
    >>> employees from improving before evaluation time, leaving them
    >>> with negative evaluations that could have been avoided?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Regards,
    >>>
    >>> Fred Nickols
    >>> nickols@att.net
    >>> www.nickols.us
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >> Jay Warner
    >> Principal Scientist
    >> Warner Consulting, Inc.
    >> 4444 North Green Bay Road
    >> Racine, WI 53404-1216
    >> USA
    >>
    >> Ph: 262.634.9100
    >> FAX: 262.681.1133
    >> email: quality@a2q.com
    >> web: www.a2q.com
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    >>
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  • 13.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-29-2005 15:20
    Howdy Gary,

    The purpose would be not an "appraisal" but rather a summary,
    documentation of past coaching and a formal mapping of progress against
    agreed upon objectives or developmental activities-areas where immediate
    and specific feedback/coaching would not be as effective at.

    It also serves the purpose for weaker coaches as a prompt to provide
    feedback, and let people know where they stand and as documentation that
    the team leader has spoken to you about this or that (+ or -). Possibly
    the appraisal is as much about the development of team leaders as the
    team member; but for our legal system wanting a cya for various events
    (succession planning, salary handling, leadership development,
    promotion, termination etc).

    As far as whose assessment, there is not any ONE that will be
    sufficient, its not an either or proposition. Good assessment requires
    multiple inputs-employee, team leader, internal/ext. customers etc.
    Without such you have just an opinion.

    That's how I see it, now have I experienced it, only 5 times (with 3
    leaders) in my 25 yrs in business globally.

    CHEERS,
    Jack D. Cerva
    920-721-5486 ofc
    920-540-5365 cell
    People = Competitive Advantage





    -----Original Message-----
    From: Management Education and Development Discussion
    [mailto:MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Gary Lear
    Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 1:10 PM
    To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals


    Jack,

    If we are doing continual performance coaching, what would be the
    purpose of
    this once a year annual assessment? How would assessing past
    performance on an
    annual basis improve future performance? Whose assessment are we going
    to use;
    the manager's or the employee's? How do we deal with the discrepancy?

    If we've dealt with issues as they have arisen, what is the purpose of
    digging
    up the past and rehashing it again? Could this possibly cause more harm
    than
    good by digging up past behaviors that have already been changed? If
    employee
    engagement is based on a relationship between the employee and their
    manager,
    could going back to something that happened almost a year ago have a
    negative
    impact on that relationship?

    Would brining up past behavior that has changed from almost a year ago
    build
    trust or destroy trust between the employee and the manager? If someone
    kept
    bringing up your past mistakes, despite the fact that you've changed,
    how would
    it make you feel? Would you want to do your best for this person?

    Perhaps having a formal annual meeting is a good thing, but are there
    other
    issues that could be focused on that would drive future performance
    other than
    rehashing past performance?

    Make a Great Day!

    Gary Lear, President & CEO

    Resource Development Systems LLC
    Managing the Human Side of Business (sm)

    www.ResourceDevelopmentSystems.com

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  • 14.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-29-2005 15:38
    Gary,

    I assumed your family, like mine, enjoyed the holidays together even though
    they interact daily. Try it, you'll like it.

    The employees for which I am accountable, both for business performance and
    individual growth, while appreciating the several quick encounters during
    the year, find an annual celebration quite enthusing, not always delightful,
    sometimes painful, but enthusing, nonetheless.

    Use both the manager's and the employee's assessment. How do deal with
    'the' discrepancy? Dialogue.

    The purpose of digging up the past and rehashing it again is because it
    reinforces learning. No one learned their 'times 12' tables in one sitting.
    Everyone loves to rehash their good deeds, seemingly never getting bored.
    One kind of good deed is 'not making that mistake anymore.'

    I am appalled at the seemingly pervasive negative assumptions in your
    questions. Are your employees and days really that bad?

    Why not expect a great day or see a great day instead of having to make one?

    cheers,
    Jack Ring

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Gary Lear" <discuss@rds-net.com>
    To: <MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU>
    Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 11:09 AM
    Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals


    > Jack,
    >
    > If we are doing continual performance coaching, what would be the purpose
    > of
    > this once a year annual assessment? How would assessing past performance
    > on an
    > annual basis improve future performance? Whose assessment are we going to
    > use;
    > the manager's or the employee's? How do we deal with the discrepancy?
    >
    > If we've dealt with issues as they have arisen, what is the purpose of
    > digging
    > up the past and rehashing it again? Could this possibly cause more harm
    > than
    > good by digging up past behaviors that have already been changed? If
    > employee
    > engagement is based on a relationship between the employee and their
    > manager,
    > could going back to something that happened almost a year ago have a
    > negative
    > impact on that relationship?
    >
    > Would brining up past behavior that has changed from almost a year ago
    > build
    > trust or destroy trust between the employee and the manager? If someone
    > kept
    > bringing up your past mistakes, despite the fact that you've changed, how
    > would
    > it make you feel? Would you want to do your best for this person?
    >
    > Perhaps having a formal annual meeting is a good thing, but are there
    > other
    > issues that could be focused on that would drive future performance other
    > than
    > rehashing past performance?
    >
    > Make a Great Day!
    >
    > Gary Lear, President & CEO
    >
    > Resource Development Systems LLC
    > Managing the Human Side of Business (sm)
    >
    > www.ResourceDevelopmentSystems.com
    >
    > (c) 2005 permission denied to use this post in any other forum or in any
    > way
    > other than on the discussion list that it was originally posted.
    >
    >


  • 15.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-29-2005 21:14
    Jack and Wayne,

    I feel like I didn't get a lot of my many questions answered. The one that is
    the most important is how does this annual "review" or "summary," if you want to
    call it those, further and enhance future performance? After all, isn't that
    why we should be undertaking any activity in the workplace?

    The other major question I asked was how does this kind of "review" impact upon
    employee engagement levels? Of course, we already have the research that points
    to engagement as being a driver of future performance.

    If you didn't read it, I highly suggest you take the few moments to read the
    article from Gallup on this issue of performance management. I'll look forward
    to your thoughts on it. It can be accessed at:

    http://gmj.gallup.com/content/default.asp?ci=442

    BTW, I'm not a big fan of 360 degree assessment. Research by Watson Wyatt shows
    that it costs organizations far more than it helps. I also think that there are
    much better ways to measure individual performance than someone's opinion, be it
    the manager's, the employee's or even someone else's.

    Make a Great Day!

    Gary Lear, President & CEO

    Resource Development Systems LLC
    Managing the Human Side of Business (sm)

    www.ResourceDevelopmentSystems.com

    (c) 2005 permission denied to use this post in any other forum or in any way
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  • 16.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-30-2005 05:26
    I would recommend Angelo de Nisi's work on performance appraisals

    See for example:-

    Feedback effectiveness: Can 360-degree appraisals be improved. AS
    DeNisi, AN Kluger - Academy of Management Executive, 2000, for a good
    summary of what we know on 360 feedback

    Angelo poses an interesting question. Why is it that most firms have
    performance review practices which ignore most of what we know about how
    to make them effective?

    For example, we know that it is counterproductive to combine personal
    development uses and performance evaluation for pay/career uses of 360
    feedback, but this is what many firms do. Consequently the games people
    play around optimising their feedback and their defensiveness about it
    prevents real learning.

    Another issue, which is perhaps worth raising is that performance
    management approaches are highly culture bound and tied to the
    institutional structure of the societies in which they are embedded. The
    USA is highly individualistic and has a form of social and economic
    organisation which is highly market based. Other countries are more
    group oriented and/or practice forms of economic coordination which rely
    less strongly on the operation of markets including labour markets.

    There is a good deal of research which suggests that US approaches to
    performance management do not transplant well into other social
    contexts. A good case study of such a failure is Lincoln Electric's
    disastrous attempt to transplant its highly successful performance
    management approaches to Europe.

    (Lincoln Electric's harsh lessons from international expansion
    DF Hastings - Harvard Business Review, 1999)



    Prof. Mark Fenton-O'Creevy
    Director, Programmes and Curriculum
    & Professor of Organisational Behaviour
    Open University Business School
    Walton Hall
    Milton Keynes MK7 6AA
    United Kingdom

    Curriculum and Programmes e-mail: oubs-dir-pc@open.ac.uk
    personal e-mail: m.p.fenton-ocreevy@open.ac.uk
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  • 17.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-30-2005 11:28
    I am a Gallup fan and enjoyed the article greatly --- except for one item,
    the presumption of Roles.

    Roles, found only in Voluntary Adult Detention Facilities, are analogous to
    Cells.

    The real score is kept by goals achieved.

    The real motivator is opportunity to achieve meaningful (to the employee)
    goals.

    Roles were invented by those too lazy to nominate and confirm goals --- or
    too 'Duh'm' to understand systems composed of human beings.

    cheers,
    Jack Ring

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Jay Warner" <quality@a2q.com>
    To: <MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU>
    Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 10:07 AM
    Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals


    > Credit goes to Gary Lear. I only get frustrated at the lack of
    > application of these 'Duh!' level-obvious results.
    >
    > Jay
    > On Sep 28, 2005, at 2:29 PM, Bob Carr wrote:
    >
    >> Jay,
    >> Thanks for sharing this article. It provides excellent insights and
    >> suggestions. I have already passed it on to the participants in a
    >> leadership program I am conducting. I highly recommend it to others on
    >> our list.
    >> Bob Carr
    >> Training & Development Manager
    >> Wake Forest University Health Sciences
    >> Winston-Salem, NC
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: Management Education and Development Discussion
    >> [mailto:MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Gary Lear
    >> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 2:18 PM
    >> To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    >> Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals
    >>
    >> Jay,
    >>
    >> I keep sharing this model from Gallup as the alternative:
    >>
    >> http://gmj.gallup.com/content/default.asp?ci=442
    >>
    >> It just takes a different mindset by managers regarding what the purpose
    >> of their position is.
    >>
    >> Make a Great Day!
    >>
    >> Gary Lear, President & CEO
    >>
    >> Resource Development Systems LLC
    >> Managing the Human Side of Business (sm)
    >>
    >> www.ResourceDevelopmentSystems.com
    >>
    >> (c) 2005 permission denied to use this post in any other forum or in any
    >> way other than on the discussion list that it was originally posted.
    >>
    >>
    >
    > Jay Warner
    > Principal Scientist
    > Warner Consulting, Inc.
    > 4444 North Green Bay Road
    > Racine, WI 53404-1216
    > USA
    >
    > Ph: 262.634.9100
    > FAX: 262.681.1133
    > email: quality@a2q.com
    > web: www.a2q.com
    >
    > The A2Q Method(tm) --- What do you want to improve today?
    >
    >


  • 18.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-30-2005 11:52
    Which annual review -- the negative one you assumed or the the compilation
    of the 'one minute' episodes I presume?

    If mine, then employee gets clear message that someone cares, that he/she is
    not alone in their career (and Herzberg personal growth). As Will Schutz
    explained years ago, FEAR, is the constraint to be dissolved. As personal
    fear diminishes employee level of consciousness thus growth increases. Will
    this enhance future performance? Yes, unless some uncontrollable factor
    intervenes.

    Your second question is interesting. Is enhancing future performance the
    reason for the manager-employee celebration? I don't think so. Enhancing
    the human wearing the employee badge is the name of the game. Then future
    performance emerges. It may be that the business needs only to sustain
    performance while applying the employee's talents in a parallel venture.
    It may be that the employee's current activities need to be experienced by
    someone else as their growth path so the employee being appraised needs to
    move along (not necessarily 'up the ladder').

    This kind of review, demonstration that manager cares and is willing to aid
    and abet employee growth, is the main key to level of engagement. Can this
    condition be achieved without an annual celebration? Sure. But why presume
    that an annual celebration interferes?

    Does this respond to your questions? Do you have more?

    cheers,
    Jack Ring
    ps. Humans are not resources. Humans are the sources -- of enthusiasm, thus
    innovation.



    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Gary Lear" <discuss@rds-net.com>
    To: <MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU>
    Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 6:13 PM
    Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals


    > Jack and Wayne,
    >
    > I feel like I didn't get a lot of my many questions answered. The one
    > that is
    > the most important is how does this annual "review" or "summary," if you
    > want to
    > call it those, further and enhance future performance? After all, isn't
    > that
    > why we should be undertaking any activity in the workplace?
    >
    > The other major question I asked was how does this kind of "review" impact
    > upon
    > employee engagement levels? Of course, we already have the research that
    > points
    > to engagement as being a driver of future performance.
    >
    > If you didn't read it, I highly suggest you take the few moments to read
    > the
    > article from Gallup on this issue of performance management. I'll look
    > forward
    > to your thoughts on it. It can be accessed at:
    >
    > http://gmj.gallup.com/content/default.asp?ci=442
    >
    > BTW, I'm not a big fan of 360 degree assessment. Research by Watson Wyatt
    > shows
    > that it costs organizations far more than it helps. I also think that
    > there are
    > much better ways to measure individual performance than someone's opinion,
    > be it
    > the manager's, the employee's or even someone else's.
    >
    > Make a Great Day!
    >
    > Gary Lear, President & CEO
    >
    > Resource Development Systems LLC
    > Managing the Human Side of Business (sm)
    >
    > www.ResourceDevelopmentSystems.com
    >
    > (c) 2005 permission denied to use this post in any other forum or in any
    > way
    > other than on the discussion list that it was originally posted.
    >
    >


  • 19.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-30-2005 12:01
    I'm new to the List but would like to add my $0.02.  One of the major problems in performance appraisal is that the supervisor/rater does not (for various reasons -- lack of time, training, etc.) observe the work of the subordinate/ratee in a systematic and detailed enough fashion to provide a sound factual basis upon which to make a reliable and valid rating.  One solution to this problem is to have the subordinate/ratee submit a monthly status report that describes work accomplishments, problems encountered, and help needed, along with a self-evaluation. This report motivates good performance, creates a vehicle for a constructive discussion of work performance with the supervisor, and provides the supervisor with a valuable source of performance data.  Of course, the supervisor/rater still needs to collect independent performance data, but the monthly status reports take much of the work load off of the supervisor.  Moreover, there should be no surprises when the supervisor sums everything up in the annual performance appraisal.

    Lance Seberhagen, Ph.D.
    Seberhagen & Associates
    9021 Trailridge Ct
    Vienna, VA 22182
    Tel 703-790-0796
     


    M.P.Fenton-OCreevy wrote:
    I would recommend Angelo de Nisi's work on performance appraisals  See for example:-   Feedback effectiveness: Can 360-degree appraisals be improved. AS DeNisi, AN Kluger - Academy of Management Executive, 2000, for a good summary of what we know on 360 feedback  Angelo poses an interesting question. Why is it that most firms have performance review practices which ignore most of what we know about how to make them effective?  For example, we know that it is counterproductive to combine personal development uses and performance evaluation for pay/career uses of 360 feedback, but this is what many firms do. Consequently the games people play around optimising their feedback and their defensiveness about it prevents real learning.  Another issue, which is perhaps worth raising is that performance management approaches are highly culture bound and tied to the institutional structure of the societies in which they are embedded. The USA is highly individualistic and has a form of social and economic organisation which is highly market based. Other countries are more group oriented and/or practice forms of economic coordination which rely less strongly on the operation of markets including labour markets.  There is a good deal of research which suggests that US approaches to performance management do not transplant well into other social contexts. A good case study of such a failure is Lincoln Electric's disastrous  attempt to transplant its highly successful performance management approaches to Europe.  (Lincoln Electric's harsh lessons from international expansion DF Hastings - Harvard Business Review, 1999)    Prof. Mark Fenton-O'Creevy  Director, Programmes and Curriculum  & Professor of Organisational Behaviour Open University Business School  Walton Hall  Milton Keynes MK7 6AA  United Kingdom   Curriculum and Programmes e-mail: oubs-dir-pc@open.ac.uk  personal e-mail: m.p.fenton-ocreevy@open.ac.uk  (DL) +44 (0)1908-655804  Fax: +44 (0)1908-655898  Web : oubs.open.ac.uk      




  • 20.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-30-2005 12:06
    Gary,
    The best rationale for any kind of performance appraisal, annual or otherwise, is the benchmarking analogy. This analogy is good at any level of analysis from individual through departments, business units, to the overall organizational level. It provides feedback. After two decades plus in the corporate sector and almost another decade in academe, the annual review is the norm, with mostly logistical and practical reasons to support it. That's not saying there isn't a robust set of arguments for a continuous evaluation system, again at all levels. There are organizational and unit examples of continuous performance appraisal in daily activity reports, quarterly reports, and so on. All of these tend to benchmark us against some accepted scale. At various times we benchmark against others, such as competitors, maybe to aim at best practices, or to move up in the performance scale (more sales or market share depending on what performance unit is being measured). Annual performance appraisals allow benchmarking and I think to really answer your question of whether this furthers or enhances future performance is a good empirical question. Once you receive the benchmark, what happens? Does performance improve over some period of time after the benchmark is given, up to and including the next appraisal period? There's no doubt in my mind that continuous measure, and feedback, has some effect, on some people. I have to look no further than the classroom for an immediate example: two grading feedbacks per semester (the old midterm and final approach) don't give much time for feedback to change behavior. Frequent grades posts on the components being measured changes behavior, for those that want to. I would argue that, as in benchmarking against competitors, some individuals would rather see benchmarking against others rather than just a scale. My students want to know more than did they get a "B". They look at the grade posts to see where they stand in relation to the rest of the class. I would bet some in the corporate sector would like to see that too, especially knowing how most performance appraisals tend to bunch at the top with little to no normal curve (a phenomenon in academe as well).

    How might this affect engagement levels? Do high appraisals further and promote desired behavior? Do low appraisals encourage other behaviors? Some students visit me more often after a bad appraisal to understand more of what I'm looking for. Some hit the books harder. Some drop the class. Some coast because they are satisfied. Do employees continue what they are doing well and/or do more of it? Do they become role models to engage others? Do they seek out the boss for advice on improvement (or other mentors and successful employees)? Do they work harder knowing plum assignments, promotions, raises, or even their job is on line? Do they move on? Do they become resigned and just start showing up? I think we see some of each of those engagement reactions at work with employees. How do we move from a collection of anecdotal evidence to reviewing a longitudinal set of behaviors and measures? Up to that point most of the answers to your question are theoretical.

    Regarding 360 degree appraisals: To some extent I think we see evidence of the 360 degree at other levels, e.g. the balanced scorecard, an annual financial and social report/audit, and stakeholder management. I'll bet there would be some who would also wonder about the return on investment of these 360 degree appraisals at the organizational level. As one of my teaching areas, the field accepts a lot on faith, and seemingly good logic, but the search for the holy grail of proven returns, while periodically claimed, seems to be just out of our grasp.

    Tom

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    From: Management Education and Development Discussion on behalf of Gary Lear
    Sent: Thu 9/29/2005 9:13 PM
    To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals



    Jack and Wayne,

    I feel like I didn't get a lot of my many questions answered. The one that is
    the most important is how does this annual "review" or "summary," if you want to
    call it those, further and enhance future performance? After all, isn't that
    why we should be undertaking any activity in the workplace?

    The other major question I asked was how does this kind of "review" impact upon
    employee engagement levels? Of course, we already have the research that points
    to engagement as being a driver of future performance.

    If you didn't read it, I highly suggest you take the few moments to read the
    article from Gallup on this issue of performance management. I'll look forward
    to your thoughts on it. It can be accessed at:

    http://gmj.gallup.com/content/default.asp?ci=442

    BTW, I'm not a big fan of 360 degree assessment. Research by Watson Wyatt shows
    that it costs organizations far more than it helps. I also think that there are
    much better ways to measure individual performance than someone's opinion, be it
    the manager's, the employee's or even someone else's.

    Make a Great Day!

    Gary Lear, President & CEO

    Resource Development Systems LLC
    Managing the Human Side of Business (sm)

    www.ResourceDevelopmentSystems.com

    (c) 2005 permission denied to use this post in any other forum or in any way
    other than on the discussion list that it was originally posted.


  • 21.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-30-2005 12:58
    Thank you.
    You have described a problem all right. 
    It is not about performance appraisals. 
    It is about inept supervisors/raters/etc. 
    The best solution to this problem is for the employee to find a decent job. 
    Until then, the second best solution is for the employee to suggest meaningful goals. 
    Third best is for the employee to engage other employees in a dialogue about meaningful goals.
    Of course the inept supervisor will see this as mutiny.
    cheers,
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 9:00 AM
    Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    I'm new to the List but would like to add my $0.02.  One of the major problems in performance appraisal is that the supervisor/rater does not (for various reasons -- lack of time, training, etc.) observe the work of the subordinate/ratee in a systematic and detailed enough fashion to provide a sound factual basis upon which to make a reliable and valid rating.  One solution to this problem is to have the subordinate/ratee submit a monthly status report that describes work accomplishments, problems encountered, and help needed, along with a self-evaluation. This report motivates good performance, creates a vehicle for a constructive discussion of work performance with the supervisor, and provides the supervisor with a valuable source of performance data.  Of course, the supervisor/rater still needs to collect independent performance data, but the monthly status reports take much of the work load off of the supervisor.  Moreover, there should be no surprises when the supervisor sums everything up in the annual performance appraisal.

    Lance Seberhagen, Ph.D.
    Seberhagen & Associates
    9021 Trailridge Ct
    Vienna, VA 22182
    Tel 703-790-0796
     


    M.P.Fenton-OCreevy wrote:
    I would recommend Angelo de Nisi's work on performance appraisals  See for example:-   Feedback effectiveness: Can 360-degree appraisals be improved. AS DeNisi, AN Kluger - Academy of Management Executive, 2000, for a good summary of what we know on 360 feedback  Angelo poses an interesting question. Why is it that most firms have performance review practices which ignore most of what we know about how to make them effective?  For example, we know that it is counterproductive to combine personal development uses and performance evaluation for pay/career uses of 360 feedback, but this is what many firms do. Consequently the games people play around optimising their feedback and their defensiveness about it prevents real learning.  Another issue, which is perhaps worth raising is that performance management approaches are highly culture bound and tied to the institutional structure of the societies in which they are embedded. The USA is highly individualistic and has a form of social and economic organisation which is highly market based. Other countries are more group oriented and/or practice forms of economic coordination which rely less strongly on the operation of markets including labour markets.  There is a good deal of research which suggests that US approaches to performance management do not transplant well into other social contexts. A good case study of such a failure is Lincoln Electric's disastrous  attempt to transplant its highly successful performance management approaches to Europe.  (Lincoln Electric's harsh lessons from international expansion DF Hastings - Harvard Business Review, 1999)    Prof. Mark Fenton-O'Creevy  Director, Programmes and Curriculum  & Professor of Organisational Behaviour Open University Business School  Walton Hall  Milton Keynes MK7 6AA  United Kingdom    Curriculum and Programmes e-mail: oubs-dir-pc@open.ac.uk  personal e-mail: m.p.fenton-ocreevy@open.ac.uk  (DL) +44 (0)1908-655804  Fax: +44 (0)1908-655898  Web : oubs.open.ac.uk       




  • 22.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 09-30-2005 17:41
    Howdy Lance,
     
    I agree, one of my best leaders did exactly that, and it was in essence a planned monthly (performance review)coaching that made the annual pa no fear, no surprises---but gave the co. what it felt it needed from a legal and compensation standpoint.

    CHEERS,
    Jack D. Cerva
    920-721-5486 ofc
    920-540-5365 cell
    People = Competitive Advantage



    -----Original Message-----
    From: Management Education and Development Discussion [mailto:MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lance Seberhagen
    Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 11:01 AM
    To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    I'm new to the List but would like to add my $0.02.  One of the major problems in performance appraisal is that the supervisor/rater does not (for various reasons -- lack of time, training, etc.) observe the work of the subordinate/ratee in a systematic and detailed enough fashion to provide a sound factual basis upon which to make a reliable and valid rating.  One solution to this problem is to have the subordinate/ratee submit a monthly status report that describes work accomplishments, problems encountered, and help needed, along with a self-evaluation. This report motivates good performance, creates a vehicle for a constructive discussion of work performance with the supervisor, and provides the supervisor with a valuable source of performance data.  Of course, the supervisor/rater still needs to collect independent performance data, but the monthly status reports take much of the work load off of the supervisor.  Moreover, there should be no surprises when the supervisor sums everything up in the annual performance appraisal.

    Lance Seberhagen, Ph.D.
    Seberhagen & Associates
    9021 Trailridge Ct
    Vienna, VA 22182
    Tel 703-790-0796
     


    M.P.Fenton-OCreevy wrote:
    I would recommend Angelo de Nisi's work on performance appraisals  See for example:-   Feedback effectiveness: Can 360-degree appraisals be improved. AS DeNisi, AN Kluger - Academy of Management Executive, 2000, for a good summary of what we know on 360 feedback  Angelo poses an interesting question. Why is it that most firms have performance review practices which ignore most of what we know about how to make them effective?  For example, we know that it is counterproductive to combine personal development uses and performance evaluation for pay/career uses of 360 feedback, but this is what many firms do. Consequently the games people play around optimising their feedback and their defensiveness about it prevents real learning.  Another issue, which is perhaps worth raising is that performance management approaches are highly culture bound and tied to the institutional structure of the societies in which they are embedded. The USA is highly individualistic and has a form of social and economic organisation which is highly market based. Other countries are more group oriented and/or practice forms of economic coordination which rely less strongly on the operation of markets including labour markets.  There is a good deal of research which suggests that US approaches to performance management do not transplant well into other social contexts. A good case study of such a failure is Lincoln Electric's disastrous  attempt to transplant its highly successful performance management approaches to Europe.  (Lincoln Electric's harsh lessons from international expansion DF Hastings - Harvard Business Review, 1999)    Prof. Mark Fenton-O'Creevy  Director, Programmes and Curriculum  & Professor of Organisational Behaviour Open University Business School  Walton Hall  Milton Keynes MK7 6AA  United Kingdom    Curriculum and Programmes e-mail: oubs-dir-pc@open.ac.uk  personal e-mail: m.p.fenton-ocreevy@open.ac.uk  (DL) +44 (0)1908-655804  Fax: +44 (0)1908-655898  Web : oubs.open.ac.uk       


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  • 23.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 10-02-2005 19:40
    Tom,

    Can you explain to me how you see benchmarking via a performance appraisal as
    helping to drive future performance for the organization? I recognize that this
    is a commonly touted approach from the statistical process control movement, but
    how does the appraisal of this past performance and using it as a benchmark help
    in improving future employee performance?

    Another thought: wouldn't the time to benchmark performance levels be at the
    beginning of the "review period" rather than at the end of it? Also, shouldn't
    the use of this benchmarking be used solely in the development of the employee,
    rather than in the measurement of performance, itself? After all, shouldn't the
    focus on measurement be on the goal to be obtained, rather than on the progress
    in improvement over the benchmark?

    As for the issue regarding benchmarking and engagement, it seems from the
    research I've read that there is no connection. Yes, recognition does have a
    connection, but do we need a benchmark in order for us to give someone
    recognition for a job well done?

    Make a Great Day!

    Gary Lear, President & CEO

    Resource Development Systems LLC
    Managing the Human Side of Business (sm)

    www.ResourceDevelopmentSystems.com

    (c) 2005 permission denied to use this post in any other forum or in any way
    other than on the discussion list that it was originally posted.


  • 24.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 10-02-2005 19:49
    Jack,

    Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. I will attempt to be as
    thorough as you were, so this may be a bit long.

    First, I use "Make a Great Day!" as opposed to "Have a Great Day" because too
    many people go through life expecting good things to happen to them with no
    effort of their own. When those good things don't, they are unhappy and blame
    this unhappiness on "life" in general and on others. They fail to take personal
    responsibility for their own happiness. Thus my approach is one of being
    proactive, as opposed to suggesting to someone to be passive. Take personal
    responsibility and go out and "make" your great day, despite what life might
    hand to you, and you will then have that great day.

    Now, as for other issues, I will admit that many of the things I advocate are
    not typical of most current western management practices. Yet, while what I
    advocate is grounded in many of the cultural teachings of my ancestors, they
    seem to be supported by much of the current research and approaches suggested by
    many of the more "modern" thinkers regarding management. These cultural
    teachings regarding our current discussion involve the Principle of
    Non-Interference; the Rule of Acceptance; and the concept of cycles and renewal
    that the Medicine Wheel teaches us.

    So, regarding employees having a relationship with their managers, I whole
    heartily agree that they should. But this relationship should be one of partner
    and coach, not overseer and judge. Western thought believes that managers
    should tell employees how to behave and what to do, and then judge them on how
    well they followed orders. My belief is that you select people who fit with
    your organization culturally; insure that they understand their purpose and
    roles; that they have the knowledge and skills to carry out that purpose; and
    the support systems to accomplish it.

    To me, this means that managers should have a different role. From the
    Principle of Non-Interference we learn that no one has the right to tell someone
    else how to live their life. So the roles that I envision a manager having is
    that of helping employees to make emotional connections to the organization's
    overall Purpose, Values, and Goals, and to become a teacher and a coach by
    helping the employee develop their strengths. This is quite different from the
    roles that most managers tend to think that they should be doing.

    Neither of these roles that I propose requires the manager to tell an employee
    how to do their job or to judge them on how well they did it. That should be
    done though pre-determined and agreed upon objective and measurable goals that
    an employee can track for themselves as close to real-time as possible. There
    is no discrepancy about the attainment of these goals; either they achieved
    them, surpassed them, or fell short of them. And some of these goals might not
    even be solely individual, but rather team and organizational, as well.

    So this now leaves a manager free to help keep the employee excited about the
    Purpose of the organization and the Purpose of their own roles, as well as
    helping to keep them focused on the Values and the Goals needed to achieve that
    Purpose. It also allows them to be free to help the employee perform at their
    best though coaching and teaching. Asking the employee questions and helping
    them to learn lessons on their own should be the main approach, following the
    Principle of Non-Interference. Only in those times when an employee has asked
    for explicit judgment or instructions should it be given.

    Now in regard to continuing to look back to performance from the distant past,
    either good or bad, to me is to waste too much energy when we should be focused
    on the future. Part of the Rule of Acceptance talks about this. "The past is
    the past, let it be." Yes, the past does have a hand in making us who we are.
    We learn lessons from the past, and we learn how to apply those lessons to the
    future. But to sit down on an annual basis and dredge up this past only creates
    unbalance and disharmony.

    A much better approach would be to focus on the future and the goals you want to
    accomplish. Looking to the past is not going to help you set these goals nor
    obtain them. Yes, I do believe in having major meetings on an annual basis. We
    need this time to set new paths and create new connections to Purpose and Goals,
    and to create a NEW mindset about achieving them.

    The Medicine Wheel teaches us that all things happen in cycles. Spring, Summer,
    Fall, and Winter; and when the Spring comes again it is a time of renewal. It
    is a time to look forward, not backwards to the hard winter. It is a time to
    make plans for the future. It is a time of hope and excitement.

    Yes, let's celebrate at this time; but not about the things of the past, but
    about the hopes and dreams for the future. In regard to celebrating successes,
    those should be celebrated as they occur, not at some time in the future where
    the meaning gets lost. Furthermore, celebration should not be limited to just
    the employee and the manager, but for the entire team. Everyone should join in
    to help someone celebrate an achievement, and everyone should be helping to
    encourage each other every day.

    One final thought from the Rule of Acceptance: "The Rule of Acceptance teaches
    us about the importance of listening and opening up our spirits by giving away
    the need to control or change other people, the need to control things, or the
    need to control situations. These things remove us from the harmony and balance
    of the Circle, and just make life difficult when it does not have to be."

    Modern management practices tries to have managers control their employees
    instead of work WITH them to help the organization accomplish great things.
    This is why so often we have management pitted against employees. This is why
    we seem to have a huge amount of unengaged and disengaged employees at work.
    Management is too focused on controlling their employees, holding up the past as
    a club, and trying to protect itself from its employees from lawsuits. Imagine
    just how much more could be accomplished if this "control" was laid aside and
    management actually worked WITH employees to make the organization great?

    And with that, I will get off my soapbox.

    Make a Great Day!

    Gary Lear, President & CEO

    Resource Development Systems LLC
    Managing the Human Side of Business (sm)

    www.ResourceDevelopmentSystems.com

    (c) 2005 permission denied to use this post in any other forum or in any way
    other than on the discussion list that it was originally posted.


  • 25.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 10-02-2005 23:12
    Gary,
    First, I'm not touting any kind of theory to support a position here but merely reflecting how I see practice; but let me take a stab at answering the second round of questions:

    snip: Can you explain to me how you see benchmarking via a performance appraisal as
    helping to drive future performance for the organization? I recognize that this
    is a commonly touted approach from the statistical process control movement, but
    how does the appraisal of this past performance and using it as a benchmark help
    in improving future employee performance?

    I honestly think is pretty straightforward in that people want to know where they stand and where they are expected to go. Most organizations are pretty close mouthed about rankings, keeping members in the dark about who is above and below them but some informal mechanisms reveal some of this. The benchmarking then is to a scale that organizations use to justify salary differentials and promotion. I don't plan on arguing the good or bad in this...I think that it just reflects what goes on. On a typical scale of 1-5 organizations rate various performance categories and the appraisal recipient sees where they fall and either knows expectation levels or is told what they are. If I know I'm a "3" and am getting a mediocre raise and no promotion wouldn't I be driven to exceed my current level of performance to achieve a "4" and get a bigger raise and possibly the promotion? Don't I want to be in the group of employees being considered for advancement? We all like to know where we stand and why? We also all want to know what is expected of us to achieve appropriate performance appraisals. I don't think this sounds elegant, and it won't close any consulting contract deals, but it seems an awfully lot like common sense to me as a practitioner that if I'm benchmarked in the middle of the pack and don't want to be there I only have a single choice assuming I am interested in more of whatever drives me. That choice is to improve my rating in the next benchmarking exercise or before. There are of course much more meaningful, insightful, and helpful ways to go beyond mere benchmarking with the employee to inform them of where they stand and why, as well as where they are expected to go, and why, and how. Better managers would layer on these additional methods to the basic benchmarking exercise, although I think they might do it selectively dependent on who they want to invest in. In any traditional benchmarking exercise I think the benchmarkers might also explain how/why an organization is at a particular place, and how they can move beyond it. Benchmarking answers the question "How am I doing?" Assuming I, or we, want to do better, we seek out the answers (or give them) to explain why we are there and what we have to do to move beyond.

    snip: Another thought: wouldn't the time to benchmark performance levels be at the
    beginning of the "review period" rather than at the end of it? Also, shouldn't
    the use of this benchmarking be used solely in the development of the employee,
    rather than in the measurement of performance, itself? After all, shouldn't the
    focus on measurement be on the goal to be obtained, rather than on the progress
    in improvement over the benchmark?

    Isn't the end of one period the beginning of another? (Except for a new employee who I might not know very much about.) I would think that the benchmark taken at the end of some period becomes the starting place in that conversation about how we got there and how to move forward. The beginning benchmark can lead to "budgeted" performance much like a budget acts as a managerial tool after last year's results are in and we figure out what we want to expect from ourselves for the next year. You are absolutely on the same wavelength I am about the benchmark being capable of more than a mere measurement of performance. It can be the starting place for "budgeting" new performance, setting some goals and objectives. I think people need to see where they are to get a handle on where they are going and how to get there. As an appraised individual I hated conversations that discussed open ended performance expectations like "I'm looking for improvement" or "I expect you to excel." Improve over what? Define excel with some point of reference. The "what" and the "point of reference" are the benchmark. To answer the second part...I don't think you can focus solely on development unless you can anchor "develop from where", else we have a wall of framed platitudes and no specifics. Employees don't want to hear "when the going gets tough, the tough get going". They want to know that they closed 10% of their leads and the top salesperson closed 15%. Then they want to know how to get there. Where do I stand? How do I improve? Then the sales manager jumps in with the necessary developmental tools. Focus on the goal, or focus on improvement from the benchmark? Good question...perhaps some of both. The goal for the end of the period may be the benchmark measured at period end and we hope they turn out to be the same. I reported to a CEO once who always had "stretch" goals but was pretty darn happy when the troops had a respectable gain over last year's benchmark. This opens the question of whether we develop goals/budgets based on improvement over the benchmark (e.g.; year to year unit sales gains) or use goals/budgets to push performance to new levels. I think we tend to some of both philosophies in practice, or dependent on managerial style. That CEO was a "coach" trying to make us all dig deep for the game. The real budget that the Wall Street analysts saw (admittedly somewhat safe but still giving them gains) was a performance over a previous benchmark.

    snip: As for the issue regarding benchmarking and engagement, it seems from the
    research I've read that there is no connection. Yes, recognition does have a
    connection, but do we need a benchmark in order for us to give someone
    recognition for a job well done?

    I don't pretend to be up on the latest research in the HR domains so I can't comment directly on what the variables are and how they are measured, or whether they have statistical, but as importantly, practical significance. I would think that we do benchmarks for a reason, to position ourselves vis a vis something else that has meaning to us. Once we know that, do we, and how do we become "engaged" to act on that position knowledge? I've seen plenty of companies do research and not act on it. That's the failure. But, isn't the action, when it happens, engagement? Perhaps I don't know enough about how that term is used or measured in the field. More basic question: If we want to give someone recognition for a job well done, what is the criteria for making that judgment? Haven't we compared them against something? Anything? I'll bet sometimes we compare it to improvements, sometimes goals, sometimes attitude. Sometimes we reward failure because we want to encourage risk taking where neither the benchmark or goal is the criterion as much as the actions, but then perhaps we are measuring something else which turned out to be the measure we used in that case.

    Gary, I'm trying to simplify a portion of a very complex system of training and development, and human motivation. I believe a simple phenomenon of measuring current performance at some point in time (which I am calling benchmarking) gives "people developers" an anchor to help explain where people are and show them where the developer would like them to go. I want to know where I'm at, and where I'm expected to go from there. I can't tell my students any more than I could once tell my employees that if they work hard I'll give them an "A" or the biggest raise. If I'm arbitrary I'm in trouble in both camps. They want anchors and scales. If I tell them where they stand at some point in time and they don't like it, they "engage". That occurs in various forms.

    One more exchange and I think we have enough for a paper (chuckle).

    Tom

    Thomas D. Sigerstad, MBA, PhD
    Strategic Management and Business Ethics
    326 Framptom Hall
    College of Business
    Frostburg State University
    101 Braddock Road
    Frostburg, MD 21532
    tsigerstad@frostburg.edu
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    From: Management Education and Development Discussion on behalf of Gary Lear
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    Tom,

    Can you explain to me how you see benchmarking via a performance appraisal as
    helping to drive future performance for the organization? I recognize that this
    is a commonly touted approach from the statistical process control movement, but
    how does the appraisal of this past performance and using it as a benchmark help
    in improving future employee performance?

    Another thought: wouldn't the time to benchmark performance levels be at the
    beginning of the "review period" rather than at the end of it? Also, shouldn't
    the use of this benchmarking be used solely in the development of the employee,
    rather than in the measurement of performance, itself? After all, shouldn't the
    focus on measurement be on the goal to be obtained, rather than on the progress
    in improvement over the benchmark?

    As for the issue regarding benchmarking and engagement, it seems from the
    research I've read that there is no connection. Yes, recognition does have a
    connection, but do we need a benchmark in order for us to give someone
    recognition for a job well done?

    Make a Great Day!

    Gary Lear, President & CEO

    Resource Development Systems LLC
    Managing the Human Side of Business (sm)

    www.ResourceDevelopmentSystems.com

    (c) 2005 permission denied to use this post in any other forum or in any way
    other than on the discussion list that it was originally posted.


  • 26.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 10-03-2005 00:09

    Hi,

    I am from India and I am new to this group.  Let me jump in to the fray anyway.  Let me first tell you all that this discussion is very stimulating.

    I am wondering if this personal learning and drive that Tom is saying happens (or should happen as a result of the benchmarking)is moderated by the personality of the person. Depends on whether she has external locus of control or an internal locus of control.  The first set of people would blame the inhibiting circumtances external to the company (and even within the company) for the her poor performance or looks for facilitating factors for the top guy's performance and then says "Well, my performance is okay, the star's performance was that good because he got a good territory" or "I could not make the levels this year because Katrina hit". For the next year, she does not expect Katrina and therefore hopes to get by with the same efforts.

    Rationalisation is possible because, in actual practice, rarely do the extreme end of the scales get used. The tendency is for most people to be marked off at 3 or 4 and very few get a 2 or 5 and no one gets a 1.
    One is able to "explain" the "small" difference rather easily?

    It is a different matter that these guys get fired or pushed out of the way for promotions after a couple of years of average performance.  But by that time the damage is done that the average guy has become rigidfied to be an averager for life.  Companies rarely fire the middling guys?

    Is what I am talking cultural dependent?

    Regards: Bala


    On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 Thomas Sigerstad wrote :
    >Gary,
    >First, I'm not touting any kind of theory to support a position here but merely reflecting how I see practice; but let me take a stab at answering the second round of questions:
    >
    >snip: Can you explain to me how you see benchmarking via a performance appraisal as
    >helping to drive future performance for the organization?  I recognize that this
    >is a commonly touted approach from the statistical process control movement, but
    >how does the appraisal of this past performance and using it as a benchmark help
    >in improving future employee performance?
    >
    >I honestly think is pretty straightforward in that people want to know where they stand and where they are expected to go.  Most organizations are pretty close mouthed about rankings, keeping members in the dark about who is above and below them but some informal mechanisms reveal some of this.  The benchmarking then is to a scale that organizations use to justify salary differentials and promotion.  I don't plan on arguing the good or bad in this...I think that it just reflects what goes on.  On a typical scale of 1-5 organizations rate various performance categories and the appraisal recipient sees where they fall and either knows expectation levels or is told what they are.  If I know I'm a "3" and am getting a mediocre raise and no promotion wouldn't I be driven to exceed my current level of performance to achieve a "4" and get a bigger raise and possibly the promotion?  Don't I want to be in the group of employees being considered for advancement?  We all like to know where we stand and why?  We also all want to know what is expected of us to achieve appropriate performance appraisals.  I don't think this sounds elegant, and it won't close any consulting contract deals, but it seems an awfully lot like common sense to me as a practitioner that if I'm benchmarked in the middle of the pack and don't want to be there I only have a single choice assuming I am interested in more of whatever drives me.  That choice is to improve my rating in the next benchmarking exercise or before.  There are of course much more meaningful, insightful, and helpful ways to go beyond mere benchmarking with the employee to inform them of where they stand and why, as well as where they are expected to go, and why, and how.  Better managers would layer on these additional methods to the basic benchmarking exercise, although I think they might do it selectively dependent on who they want to invest in.  In any traditional benchmarking exercise I think the benchmarkers might also explain how/why an organization is at a particular place, and how they can move beyond it.  Benchmarking answers the question "How am I doing?"  Assuming I, or we, want to do better, we seek out the answers (or give them) to explain why we are there and what we have to do to move beyond.
    >
    >snip: Another thought: wouldn't the time to benchmark performance levels be at the
    >beginning of the "review period" rather than at the end of it?  Also, shouldn't
    >the use of this benchmarking be used solely in the development of the employee,
    >rather than in the measurement of performance, itself?  After all, shouldn't the
    >focus on measurement be on the goal to be obtained, rather than on the progress
    >in improvement over the benchmark?
    >
    >Isn't the end of one period the beginning of another?  (Except for a new employee who I might not know very much about.)  I would think that the benchmark taken at the end of some period becomes the starting place in that conversation about how we got there and how to move forward.  The beginning benchmark can lead to "budgeted" performance much like a budget acts as a managerial tool after last year's results are in and we figure out what we want to expect from ourselves for the next year.  You are absolutely on the same wavelength I am about the benchmark being capable of more than a mere measurement of performance.  It can be the starting place for "budgeting" new performance, setting some goals and objectives.  I think people need to see where they are to get a handle on where they are going and how to get there.  As an appraised individual I hated conversations that discussed open ended performance expectations like "I'm looking for improvement" or "I expect you to excel."  Improve over what?  Define excel with some point of reference.  The "what" and the "point of reference" are the benchmark.  To answer the second part...I don't think you can focus solely on development unless you can anchor "develop from where", else we have a wall of framed platitudes and no specifics.  Employees don't want to hear "when the going gets tough, the tough get going".  They want to know that they closed 10% of their leads and the top salesperson closed 15%.  Then they want to know how to get there.  Where do I stand?  How do I improve?  Then the sales manager jumps in with the necessary developmental tools.  Focus on the goal, or focus on improvement from the benchmark?  Good question...perhaps some of both.  The goal for the end of the period may be the benchmark measured at period end and we hope they turn out to be the same.  I reported to a CEO once who always had "stretch" goals but was pretty darn happy when the troops had a respectable gain over last year's benchmark.  This opens the question of whether we develop goals/budgets based on improvement over the benchmark (e.g.; year to year unit sales gains) or use goals/budgets to push performance to new levels.  I think we tend to some of both philosophies in practice, or dependent on managerial style.  That CEO was a "coach" trying to make us all dig deep for the game.  The real budget that the Wall Street analysts saw (admittedly somewhat safe but still giving them gains) was a performance over a previous benchmark.
    >
    >snip: As for the issue regarding benchmarking and engagement, it seems from the
    >research I've read that there is no connection.  Yes, recognition does have a
    >connection, but do we need a benchmark in order for us to give someone
    >recognition for a job well done?
    >
    >I don't pretend to be up on the latest research in the HR domains so I can't comment directly on what the variables are and how they are measured, or whether they have statistical, but as importantly, practical significance.  I would think that we do benchmarks for a reason, to position ourselves vis a vis something else that has meaning to us.  Once we know that, do we, and how do we become "engaged" to act on that position knowledge?  I've seen plenty of companies do research and not act on it.  That's the failure.  But, isn't the action, when it happens, engagement?  Perhaps I don't know enough about how that term is used or measured in the field.  More basic question: If we want to give someone recognition for a job well done, what is the criteria for making that judgment?  Haven't we compared them against something?  Anything?  I'll bet sometimes we compare it to improvements, sometimes goals, sometimes attitude.  Sometimes we reward failure because we want to encourage risk taking where neither the benchmark or goal is the criterion as much as the actions, but then perhaps we are measuring something else which turned out to be the measure we used in that case.
    >
    >Gary, I'm trying to simplify a portion of a very complex system of training and development, and human motivation.  I believe a simple phenomenon of measuring current performance at some point in time (which I am calling benchmarking) gives "people developers" an anchor to help explain where people are and show them where the developer would like them to go.  I want to know where I'm at, and where I'm expected to go from there.  I can't tell my students any more than I could once tell my employees that if they work hard I'll give them an "A" or the biggest raise.  If I'm arbitrary I'm in trouble in both camps.  They want anchors and scales.  If I tell them where they stand at some point in time and they don't like it, they "engage".  That occurs in various forms.
    >
    >One more exchange and I think we have enough for a paper (chuckle).
    >
    >Tom
    >
    >Thomas D. Sigerstad, MBA, PhD
    >Strategic Management and Business Ethics
    >326 Framptom Hall
    >College of Business
    >Frostburg State University
    >101 Braddock Road
    >Frostburg, MD 21532
    >tsigerstad@frostburg.edu
    >301-687-4419 office
    >301-687-4380 fax
    >301-687-0712 home
    >
    >________________________________
    >
    > From: Management Education and Development Discussion on behalf of Gary Lear
    >Sent: Sun 10/2/2005 7:39 PM
    >To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    >Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals
    >
    >
    >
    >Tom,
    >
    >Can you explain to me how you see benchmarking via a performance appraisal as
    >helping to drive future performance for the organization?  I recognize that this
    >is a commonly touted approach from the statistical process control movement, but
    >how does the appraisal of this past performance and using it as a benchmark help
    >in improving future employee performance?
    >
    >Another thought: wouldn't the time to benchmark performance levels be at the
    >beginning of the "review period" rather than at the end of it?  Also, shouldn't
    >the use of this benchmarking be used solely in the development of the employee,
    >rather than in the measurement of performance, itself?  After all, shouldn't the
    >focus on measurement be on the goal to be obtained, rather than on the progress
    >in improvement over the benchmark?
    >
    >As for the issue regarding benchmarking and engagement, it seems from the
    >research I've read that there is no connection.  Yes, recognition does have a
    >connection, but do we need a benchmark in order for us to give someone
    >recognition for a job well done?
    >
    >Make a Great Day!
    >
    >Gary Lear, President & CEO
    >
    >Resource Development Systems LLC
    >Managing the Human Side of Business (sm)
    >
    >www.ResourceDevelopmentSystems.com
    >
    >(c) 2005 permission denied to use this post in any other forum or in any way
    >other than on the discussion list that it was originally posted.





  • 27.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 10-03-2005 05:47

    From: Jack Ring [mailto:jring@amug.org]  

     

    Glad you jumped in.

     

    I think you have summarized quite well the reasons quality guru Phil Crosby advised against benchmarking, recommending instead a continuous improvement regimen. 

     

    Culturally dependent would presume there are clear lines of demarcation between cultures.  Seen any?

    ----- Original Message -----

     

    Hi,

    I am from <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">India</st1:country-region></st1:place> and I am new to this group.  Let me jump in to the fray anyway.  Let me first tell you all that this discussion is very stimulating.

    I am wondering if this personal learning and drive that Tom is saying happens (or should happen as a result of the benchmarking)is moderated by the personality of the person. Depends on whether she has external locus of control or an internal locus of control.  The first set of people would blame the inhibiting circumtances external to the company (and even within the company) for the her poor performance or looks for facilitating factors for the top guy's performance and then says "Well, my performance is okay, the star's performance was that good because he got a good territory" or "I could not make the levels this year because Katrina hit". For the next year, she does not expect Katrina and therefore hopes to get by with the same efforts.

    Rationalisation is possible because, in actual practice, rarely do the extreme end of the scales get used. The tendency is for most people to be marked off at 3 or 4 and very few get a 2 or 5 and no one gets a 1.
    One is able to "explain" the "small" difference rather easily?

    It is a different matter that these guys get fired or pushed out of the way for promotions after a couple of years of average performance.  But by that time the damage is done that the average guy has become rigidfied to be an averager for life.  Companies rarely fire the middling guys?

    Is what I am talking cultural dependent?

    Regards: Bala


    On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 Thomas Sigerstad wrote :
    ><st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Gary</st1:place></st1:city>,
    >First, I'm not touting any kind of theory to support a position here but merely reflecting how I see practice; but let me take a stab at answering the second round of questions:
    >
    >snip: Can you explain to me how you see benchmarking via a performance appraisal as
    >helping to drive future performance for the organization?  I recognize that this
    >is a commonly touted approach from the statistical process control movement, but
    >how does the appraisal of this past performance and using it as a benchmark help
    >in improving future employee performance?
    >
    >I honestly think is pretty straightforward in that people want to know where they stand and where they are expected to go.  Most organizations are pretty close mouthed about rankings, keeping members in the dark about who is above and below them but some informal mechanisms reveal some of this.  The benchmarking then is to a scale that organizations use to justify salary differentials and promotion.  I don't plan on arguing the good or bad in this...I think that it just reflects what goes on.  On a typical scale of 1-5 organizations rate various performance categories and the appraisal recipient sees where they fall and either knows expectation levels or is told what they are.  If I know I'm a "3" and am getting a mediocre raise and no promotion wouldn't I be driven to exceed my current level of performance to achieve a "4" and get a bigger raise and possibly the promotion?  Don't I want to be in the group of employees being considered for advancement?  We all like to know where we stand and why?  We also all want to know what is expected of us to achieve appropriate performance appraisals.  I don't think this sounds elegant, and it won't close any consulting contract deals, but it seems an awfully lot like common sense to me as a practitioner that if I'm benchmarked in the middle of the pack and don't want to be there I only have a single choice assuming I am interested in more of whatever drives me.  That choice is to improve my rating in the next benchmarking exercise or before.  There are of course much more meaningful, insightful, and helpful ways to go beyond mere benchmarking with the employee to inform them of where they stand and why, as well as where they are expected to go, and why, and how.  Better managers would layer on these additional methods to the basic benchmarking exercise, although I think they might do it selectively dependent on who they want to invest in.  In any traditional benchmarking exercise I think the benchmarkers might also explain how/why an organization is at a particular place, and how they can move beyond it.  Benchmarking answers the question "How am I doing?"  Assuming I, or we, want to do better, we seek out the answers (or give them) to explain why we are there and what we have to do to move beyond.
    >
    >snip: Another thought: wouldn't the time to benchmark performance levels be at the
    >beginning of the "review period" rather than at the end of it?  Also, shouldn't
    >the use of this benchmarking be used solely in the development of the employee,
    >rather than in the measurement of performance, itself?  After all, shouldn't the
    >focus on measurement be on the goal to be obtained, rather than on the progress
    >in improvement over the benchmark?
    >
    >Isn't the end of one period the beginning of another?  (Except for a new employee who I might not know very much about.)  I would think that the benchmark taken at the end of some period becomes the starting place in that conversation about how we got there and how to move forward.  The beginning benchmark can lead to "budgeted" performance much like a budget acts as a managerial tool after last year's results are in and we figure out what we want to expect from ourselves for the next year.  You are absolutely on the same wavelength I am about the benchmark being capable of more than a mere measurement of performance.  It can be the starting place for "budgeting" new performance, setting some goals and objectives.  I think people need to see where they are to get a handle on where they are going and how to get there.  As an appraised individual I hated conversations that discussed open ended performance expectations like "I'm looking for improvement" or "I expect you to excel."  Improve over what?  Define excel with some point of reference.  The "what" and the "point of reference" are the benchmark.  To answer the second part...I don't think you can focus solely on development unless you can anchor "develop from where", else we have a wall of framed platitudes and no specifics.  Employees don't want to hear "when the going gets tough, the tough get going".  They want to know that they closed 10% of their leads and the top salesperson closed 15%.  Then they want to know how to get there.  Where do I stand?  How do I improve?  Then the sales manager jumps in with the necessary developmental tools.  Focus on the goal, or focus on improvement from the benchmark?  Good question...perhaps some of both.  The goal for the end of the period may be the benchmark measured at period end and we hope they turn out to be the same.  I reported to a CEO once who always had "stretch" goals but was pretty darn happy when the troops had a respectable gain over last year's benchmark.  This opens the question of whether we develop goals/budgets based on improvement over the benchmark (e.g.; year to year unit sales gains) or use goals/budgets to push performance to new levels.  I think we tend to some of both philosophies in practice, or dependent on managerial style.  That CEO was a "coach" trying to make us all dig deep for the game.  The real budget that the Wall Street analysts saw (admittedly somewhat safe but still giving them gains) was a performance over a previous benchmark.
    >
    >snip: As for the issue regarding benchmarking and engagement, it seems from the
    >research I've read that there is no connection.  Yes, recognition does have a
    >connection, but do we need a benchmark in order for us to give someone
    >recognition for a job well done?
    >
    >I don't pretend to be up on the latest research in the HR domains so I can't comment directly on what the variables are and how they are measured, or whether they have statistical, but as importantly, practical significance.  I would think that we do benchmarks for a reason, to position ourselves vis a vis something else that has meaning to us.  Once we know that, do we, and how do we become "engaged" to act on that position knowledge?  I've seen plenty of companies do research and not act on it.  That's the failure.  But, isn't the action, when it happens, engagement?  Perhaps I don't know enough about how that term is used or measured in the field.  More basic question: If we want to give someone recognition for a job well done, what is the criteria for making that judgment?  Haven't we compared them against something?  Anything?  I'll bet sometimes we compare it to improvements, sometimes goals, sometimes attitude.  Sometimes we reward failure because we want to encourage risk taking where neither the benchmark or goal is the criterion as much as the actions, but then perhaps we are measuring something else which turned out to be the measure we used in that case.
    >
    ><st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Gary</st1:place></st1:city>, I'm trying to simplify a portion of a very complex system of training and development, and human motivation.  I believe a simple phenomenon of measuring current performance at some point in time (which I am calling benchmarking) gives "people developers" an anchor to help explain where people are and show them where the developer would like them to go.  I want to know where I'm at, and where I'm expected to go from there.  I can't tell my students any more than I could once tell my employees that if they work hard I'll give them an "A" or the biggest raise.  If I'm arbitrary I'm in trouble in both camps.  They want anchors and scales.  If I tell them where they stand at some point in time and they don't like it, they "engage".  That occurs in various forms.
    >
    >One more exchange and I think we have enough for a paper (chuckle).
    >
    >Tom
    >
    >Thomas D. Sigerstad, MBA, PhD
    >Strategic Management and Business Ethics
    >326 Framptom Hall
    ><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placetype w:st="on">College</st1:placetype> of <st1:placename w:st="on">Business</st1:placename></st1:place>
    ><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placename w:st="on">Frostburg</st1:placename> <st1:placetype w:st="on">State</st1:placetype> <st1:placetype w:st="on">University</st1:placetype></st1:place>
    ><st1:street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">101 Braddock Road</st1:address></st1:street>
    ><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Frostburg</st1:city>, <st1:state w:st="on">MD</st1:state> <st1:postalcode w:st="on">21532</st1:postalcode></st1:place>
    >tsigerstad@frostburg.edu
    >301-687-4419 office
    >301-687-4380 fax
    >301-687-0712 home
    >
    >________________________________
    >
    > From: Management Education and Development Discussion on behalf of Gary Lear
    >Sent: Sun 10/2/2005 7:39 PM
    >To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    >Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals
    >
    >
    >
    >Tom,
    >
    >Can you explain to me how you see benchmarking via a performance appraisal as
    >helping to drive future performance for the organization?  I recognize that this
    >is a commonly touted approach from the statistical process control movement, but
    >how does the appraisal of this past performance and using it as a benchmark help
    >in improving future employee performance?
    >
    >Another thought: wouldn't the time to benchmark performance levels be at the
    >beginning of the "review period" rather than at the end of it?  Also, shouldn't
    >the use of this benchmarking be used solely in the development of the employee,
    >rather than in the measurement of performance, itself?  After all, shouldn't the
    >focus on measurement be on the goal to be obtained, rather than on the progress
    >in improvement over the benchmark?
    >
    >As for the issue regarding benchmarking and engagement, it seems from the
    >research I've read that there is no connection.  Yes, recognition does have a
    >connection, but do we need a benchmark in order for us to give someone
    >recognition for a job well done?
    >
    >Make a Great Day!
    >
    >Gary Lear, President & CEO
    >
    >Resource Development Systems LLC
    >Managing the Human Side of Business (sm)
    >
    >www.ResourceDevelopmentSystems.com
    >
    >(c) 2005 permission denied to use this post in any other forum or in any way
    >other than on the discussion list that it was originally posted.





  • 28.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 10-03-2005 11:16
    Jack and Bala,
    (tongue in cheek here) let's see...Crosby advice: discard benchmarking, accept continuous improvement regiment.
    My definition of continuous improvement regimen:
    Establish a starting place, say current performance, (I'd call that a benchmark), then improve upon it.
    To improve we employ lots of different mechanisms, teaching, coaching, skill enhancement, etc., etc.
    often taking into consideration social, cultural, and psychological differences of the coach and coached.
    At some point in the future assess improvement (perhaps by measuring a new "benchmark").
    Adjust the continuous improvement plan and perhaps create a target or just see where it takes you.
    At some point in the future assess improvement (perhaps by measuring a new "benchmark").
    Repeat as needed.

    If we measure and do nothing, shame on us. That could give benchmarking a bad name, but its only a mechanism for establishing a point of reference. Every good manager or organization I've ever known uses the benchmark to make decisions on, typically to set objectives for future performance outcomes but also to try to understand why and how they are where they are which often helps in determining where to set the goal. And, of course, its not the only measure.

    We haven't thrown away a useful tool (benchmarking) when we move to continuous improvement, we're just layering on where to go from the measure, what to do with it. I don't think it's about rejecting benchmarking in favor of continuous improvement. That's a little like old wine in new bottles, the thing that keeps professors publishing new papers, business writers selling new books, and consultants touting new programs. All three find it useful to create a new perspective on something that currently exists, perhaps to enhance, perhaps to reach more people with a slightly different spin, perhaps to create a "new" product to sell. I know I can't begin to keep up with the practitioner or academic press of "new" ideas. I hang out at a lot of used book sales looking for management history fodder and I find it amusing every time I pick up a business book from yesteryear to see how long we have been writing about something that has been rediscovered recently. In some ways its a good thing because we have a new generation of business idea consumers who don't read history and the ideas have to be repackaged in today's argot with today's examples. On the other hand, if you read history, or have been a part of history, its not bad to understand where this stuff comes from and pay homage to seminal or classic ideas as we put a fresh face on them for today's audience.

    Tom

    Thomas D. Sigerstad, MBA, PhD
    Strategic Management and Business Ethics
    326 Framptom Hall
    College of Business
    Frostburg State University
    101 Braddock Road
    Frostburg, MD 21532
    tsigerstad@frostburg.edu
    301-687-4419 office
    301-687-4380 fax
    301-687-0712 home

    ________________________________

    From: Management Education and Development Discussion on behalf of Charles Wankel
    Sent: Mon 10/3/2005 5:47 AM
    To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals



    From: Jack Ring [mailto:jring@amug.org] <mailto:%5bmailto:jring@amug.org%5d>





    Glad you jumped in.



    I think you have summarized quite well the reasons quality guru Phil Crosby advised against benchmarking, recommending instead a continuous improvement regimen.



    Culturally dependent would presume there are clear lines of demarcation between cultures. Seen any?

    ----- Original Message -----

    From: A G Balasubramanian <mailto:agbala_hr@REDIFFMAIL.COM>



    Hi,

    I am from India and I am new to this group. Let me jump in to the fray anyway. Let me first tell you all that this discussion is very stimulating.

    I am wondering if this personal learning and drive that Tom is saying happens (or should happen as a result of the benchmarking)is moderated by the personality of the person. Depends on whether she has external locus of control or an internal locus of control. The first set of people would blame the inhibiting circumtances external to the company (and even within the company) for the her poor performance or looks for facilitating factors for the top guy's performance and then says "Well, my performance is okay, the star's performance was that good because he got a good territory" or "I could not make the levels this year because Katrina hit". For the next year, she does not expect Katrina and therefore hopes to get by with the same efforts.

    Rationalisation is possible because, in actual practice, rarely do the extreme end of the scales get used. The tendency is for most people to be marked off at 3 or 4 and very few get a 2 or 5 and no one gets a 1.
    One is able to "explain" the "small" difference rather easily?

    It is a different matter that these guys get fired or pushed out of the way for promotions after a couple of years of average performance. But by that time the damage is done that the average guy has become rigidfied to be an averager for life. Companies rarely fire the middling guys?

    Is what I am talking cultural dependent?

    Regards: Bala


    On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 Thomas Sigerstad wrote :
    >Gary,
    >First, I'm not touting any kind of theory to support a position here but merely reflecting how I see practice; but let me take a stab at answering the second round of questions:
    >
    >snip: Can you explain to me how you see benchmarking via a performance appraisal as
    >helping to drive future performance for the organization? I recognize that this
    >is a commonly touted approach from the statistical process control movement, but
    >how does the appraisal of this past performance and using it as a benchmark help
    >in improving future employee performance?
    >
    >I honestly think is pretty straightforward in that people want to know where they stand and where they are expected to go. Most organizations are pretty close mouthed about rankings, keeping members in the dark about who is above and below them but some informal mechanisms reveal some of this. The benchmarking then is to a scale that organizations use to justify salary differentials and promotion. I don't plan on arguing the good or bad in this...I think that it just reflects what goes on. On a typical scale of 1-5 organizations rate various performance categories and the appraisal recipient sees where they fall and either knows expectation levels or is told what they are. If I know I'm a "3" and am getting a mediocre raise and no promotion wouldn't I be driven to exceed my current level of performance to achieve a "4" and get a bigger raise and possibly the promotion? Don't I want to be in the group of employees being considered for advancement? We all like to know where we stand and why? We also all want to know what is expected of us to achieve appropriate performance appraisals. I don't think this sounds elegant, and it won't close any consulting contract deals, but it seems an awfully lot like common sense to me as a practitioner that if I'm benchmarked in the middle of the pack and don't want to be there I only have a single choice assuming I am interested in more of whatever drives me. That choice is to improve my rating in the next benchmarking exercise or before. There are of course much more meaningful, insightful, and helpful ways to go beyond mere benchmarking with the employee to inform them of where they stand and why, as well as where they are expected to go, and why, and how. Better managers would layer on these additional methods to the basic benchmarking exercise, although I think they might do it selectively dependent on who they want to invest in. In any traditional benchmarking exercise I think the benchmarkers might also explain how/why an organization is at a particular place, and how they can move beyond it. Benchmarking answers the question "How am I doing?" Assuming I, or we, want to do better, we seek out the answers (or give them) to explain why we are there and what we have to do to move beyond.
    >
    >snip: Another thought: wouldn't the time to benchmark performance levels be at the
    >beginning of the "review period" rather than at the end of it? Also, shouldn't
    >the use of this benchmarking be used solely in the development of the employee,
    >rather than in the measurement of performance, itself? After all, shouldn't the
    >focus on measurement be on the goal to be obtained, rather than on the progress
    >in improvement over the benchmark?
    >
    >Isn't the end of one period the beginning of another? (Except for a new employee who I might not know very much about.) I would think that the benchmark taken at the end of some period becomes the starting place in that conversation about how we got there and how to move forward. The beginning benchmark can lead to "budgeted" performance much like a budget acts as a managerial tool after last year's results are in and we figure out what we want to expect from ourselves for the next year. You are absolutely on the same wavelength I am about the benchmark being capable of more than a mere measurement of performance. It can be the starting place for "budgeting" new performance, setting some goals and objectives. I think people need to see where they are to get a handle on where they are going and how to get there. As an appraised individual I hated conversations that discussed open ended performance expectations like "I'm looking for improvement" or "I expect you to excel." Improve over what? Define excel with some point of reference. The "what" and the "point of reference" are the benchmark. To answer the second part...I don't think you can focus solely on development unless you can anchor "develop from where", else we have a wall of framed platitudes and no specifics. Employees don't want to hear "when the going gets tough, the tough get going". They want to know that they closed 10% of their leads and the top salesperson closed 15%. Then they want to know how to get there. Where do I stand? How do I improve? Then the sales manager jumps in with the necessary developmental tools. Focus on the goal, or focus on improvement from the benchmark? Good question...perhaps some of both. The goal for the end of the period may be the benchmark measured at period end and we hope they turn out to be the same. I reported to a CEO once who always had "stretch" goals but was pretty darn happy when the troops had a respectable gain over last year's benchmark. This opens the question of whether we develop goals/budgets based on improvement over the benchmark (e.g.; year to year unit sales gains) or use goals/budgets to push performance to new levels. I think we tend to some of both philosophies in practice, or dependent on managerial style. That CEO was a "coach" trying to make us all dig deep for the game. The real budget that the Wall Street analysts saw (admittedly somewhat safe but still giving them gains) was a performance over a previous benchmark.
    >
    >snip: As for the issue regarding benchmarking and engagement, it seems from the
    >research I've read that there is no connection. Yes, recognition does have a
    >connection, but do we need a benchmark in order for us to give someone
    >recognition for a job well done?
    >
    >I don't pretend to be up on the latest research in the HR domains so I can't comment directly on what the variables are and how they are measured, or whether they have statistical, but as importantly, practical significance. I would think that we do benchmarks for a reason, to position ourselves vis a vis something else that has meaning to us. Once we know that, do we, and how do we become "engaged" to act on that position knowledge? I've seen plenty of companies do research and not act on it. That's the failure. But, isn't the action, when it happens, engagement? Perhaps I don't know enough about how that term is used or measured in the field. More basic question: If we want to give someone recognition for a job well done, what is the criteria for making that judgment? Haven't we compared them against something? Anything? I'll bet sometimes we compare it to improvements, sometimes goals, sometimes attitude. Sometimes we reward failure because we want to encourage risk taking where neither the benchmark or goal is the criterion as much as the actions, but then perhaps we are measuring something else which turned out to be the measure we used in that case.
    >
    >Gary, I'm trying to simplify a portion of a very complex system of training and development, and human motivation. I believe a simple phenomenon of measuring current performance at some point in time (which I am calling benchmarking) gives "people developers" an anchor to help explain where people are and show them where the developer would like them to go. I want to know where I'm at, and where I'm expected to go from there. I can't tell my students any more than I could once tell my employees that if they work hard I'll give them an "A" or the biggest raise. If I'm arbitrary I'm in trouble in both camps. They want anchors and scales. If I tell them where they stand at some point in time and they don't like it, they "engage". That occurs in various forms.
    >
    >One more exchange and I think we have enough for a paper (chuckle).
    >
    >Tom
    >
    >Thomas D. Sigerstad, MBA, PhD
    >Strategic Management and Business Ethics
    >326 Framptom Hall
    >College of Business
    >Frostburg State University
    >101 Braddock Road
    >Frostburg, MD 21532
    >tsigerstad@frostburg.edu
    >301-687-4419 office
    >301-687-4380 fax
    >301-687-0712 home
    >
    >________________________________
    >
    > From: Management Education and Development Discussion on behalf of Gary Lear
    >Sent: Sun 10/2/2005 7:39 PM
    >To: MG-ED-DV@AOMLISTS.PACE.EDU
    >Subject: Re: "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals
    >
    >
    >
    >Tom,
    >
    >Can you explain to me how you see benchmarking via a performance appraisal as
    >helping to drive future performance for the organization? I recognize that this
    >is a commonly touted approach from the statistical process control movement, but
    >how does the appraisal of this past performance and using it as a benchmark help
    >in improving future employee performance?
    >
    >Another thought: wouldn't the time to benchmark performance levels be at the
    >beginning of the "review period" rather than at the end of it? Also, shouldn't
    >the use of this benchmarking be used solely in the development of the employee,
    >rather than in the measurement of performance, itself? After all, shouldn't the
    >focus on measurement be on the goal to be obtained, rather than on the progress
    >in improvement over the benchmark?
    >
    >As for the issue regarding benchmarking and engagement, it seems from the
    >research I've read that there is no connection. Yes, recognition does have a
    >connection, but do we need a benchmark in order for us to give someone
    >recognition for a job well done?
    >
    >Make a Great Day!
    >
    >Gary Lear, President & CEO
    >
    >Resource Development Systems LLC
    >Managing the Human Side of Business (sm)
    >
    >www.ResourceDevelopmentSystems.com
    >
    >(c) 2005 permission denied to use this post in any other forum or in any way
    >other than on the discussion list that it was originally posted.



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  • 29.  "Socking it to 'em" via performance appraisals

    Posted 10-04-2005 15:45
    Tom,

    Please forgive me on my brief response and inability to address all that you
    have shared, but this is turning out to be a very busy week for me, indeed.

    I agree with you that any time one undertakes a journey that in addition to
    knowing where you want to go that you do need to know where you are so that you
    can figure out how you are going to reach your ultimate goal. But the
    relationship is always between where you currently are now and the goal you want
    to achieve. It is not between where you currently are now and where you were at
    any point in time in the past.

    In my opinion, benchmarking all too frequently keeps the focus on the past and
    not on what can be achieved for the future. I find this true of most approaches
    to performance appraisals, as well, and I believe one of the major flaws in
    them.

    Anyway, give me a few days and perhaps I can get back into the swing of things
    and we can achieve that paper! <wink>

    Make a Great Day!

    Gary Lear, President & CEO

    Resource Development Systems LLC
    Managing the Human Side of Business (sm)

    www.ResourceDevelopmentSystems.com

    (c) 2005 permission denied to use this post in any other forum or in any way
    other than on the discussion list that it was originally posted.